Prototype for everything corner.

[keefer]

Some of the mk1 Pullmans (PSP E347-354E) were downgraded to ordinary FO in b/g in BR days and so did not have the 'Pullman' legend. Away from books at the 'mo and can't find how many PSP were actually treated.

The 'Pullman' legend would seem to be an SLOA addition to the b/g livery, to reclaim a bit of the prestige of the stock until they would be repainted into umber/cream.

 

 

[montyburns56]

17 hours ago, keefer said:

Some of the mk1 Pullmans (PSP E347-354E) were downgraded to ordinary FO in b/g in BR days and so did not have the 'Pullman' legend. Away from books at the 'mo and can't find how many PSP were actually treated.

The 'Pullman' legend would seem to be an SLOA addition to the b/g livery, to reclaim a bit of the prestige of the stock until they would be repainted into umber/cream.

 

 

 

Yeah, that's why I posted them as usually they look like the Bachmann/Farish model.

 

 

 

 

[montyburns56]

Radyr 1965

 

 

[Ben B]

1 hour ago, montyburns56 said:

Radyr 1965

 

 

 

One for the 'when the real thing looks like a model' thread?  The row of trees to disguise the backscene are nice, and the super-detailing job on the Triang-Hornby 37 is wonderful, but it could do with some weathering to remove that out-of-the-box plastic gloss

[Ramblin Rich]

2 hours ago, Ben B said:

 

.... and the super-detailing job on the Triang-Hornby 37 is wonderful, but it could do with some weathering to remove that out-of-the-box plastic gloss

Yet they've done such a good job on the mineral wagons!

[jonny777]

And someone has noticed that rails are a different colour to the sleepers. 

 

 

[jonny777]

Here is Car No 336 in original livery, but out of use at Wolverton in May 1972. 

 

 

[50A55B]

2 hours ago, jonny777 said:

Here is Car No 336 in original livery, but out of use at Wolverton in May 1972. 

 

 

Very nice, but my attention has been caught by the carriage to the left. Anyone able to identify it?

[Welly]

47 minutes ago, 50A55B said:

Very nice, but my attention has been caught by the carriage to the left. Anyone able to identify it?

Looks like an ex-GNR/LNER coach that went into departmental use.

[Wickham Green too]

Looks more L.N.W.R. to me - no roof dome and local to Wolverton, too

[lmsforever]

Thats a lovely picture of the 37 in its proper colour  as well.

[jonny777]

Have you always liked the Bachmann slope sided minerals (the British Steel variants), but thought they were unsuitable for a 1970s BR blue layout? 

 

Here is one with 08008 at Worksop in 1975. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mark Saunders]

3 hours ago, jonny777 said:

Have you always liked the Bachmann slope sided minerals (the British Steel variants), but thought they were unsuitable for a 1970s BR blue layout? 

 

Here is one with 08008 at Worksop in 1975. 

 

 

 

 

 

The BSC Corby ones lasted til the works closed in 1979.

[melmerby]

How often do locos on front line service get repainted? 5 years, 10 years?

Try more than 25 years  with this ex-Santa Fe loco with the only concession to it's 25+ year life under BNSF a now faded BNSF on the cab side:

 

At least some have been tarted up but still retain the basic Santa Fe livery:

 

 

[melmerby]

Another one is this ex-Southern Pacific, absorbed into UP 25 years ago:

 

[pH]

The (probably) last MILW/SOO/CP ‘bandit’. The Milwaukee was absorbed into the Soo Line in 1986, and this picture was taken in 2019 - over 33 years later:

 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=5256873

[montyburns56]

Fulfilling my fetish for pictures of steam locos pulling blue grey coaches.

 

All from the David Brabham Collection

 

 

 

 

 

 

[john new]

4 hours ago, montyburns56 said:

Fulfilling my fetish for pictures of steam locos pulling blue grey coaches.

 

All from the David Brabham Collection

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any idea what the bottom one, the green, blue/grey, maroon  IM31 working  with the Brit seen at Oxenholme is?

[nigb55009]

I would assume that the Brit photo would have been taken in 1967, 1966 at the earliest. According to the 1969 Working Timetable, which is the closest I have to 1967, 1M31 was the 0745 Saturday only, Dundee to Blackpool North. If so, that could explain the mixed bag of coaches. 1M31 was one of the trains that ran through Preston twice on it`s way to the coast. First, the train would pass through the East Lancs side of Preston Station to run up to Todd Lane Junction before  passing Lostock Hall shed and returning via Farington Curve Junction back through Preston and on to Blackpool. A lot of the Saturday only trains seemed to keep the same reporting number year in year out. Hope this helps, Nige.

[luckymucklebackit]

8 hours ago, nigb55009 said:

I would assume that the Brit photo would have been taken in 1967, 1966 at the earliest. According to the 1969 Working Timetable, which is the closest I have to 1967, 1M31 was the 0745 Saturday only, Dundee to Blackpool North. If so, that could explain the mixed bag of coaches. 1M31 was one of the trains that ran through Preston twice on it`s way to the coast. First, the train would pass through the East Lancs side of Preston Station to run up to Todd Lane Junction before  passing Lostock Hall shed and returning via Farington Curve Junction back through Preston and on to Blackpool. A lot of the Saturday only trains seemed to keep the same reporting number year in year out. Hope this helps, Nige.

 

This for me confirms an old memory.  As a youngster around this period I used to stand on the bridge at Whifflet Junction Coatbridge spotting during the summer holidays and I have this memory of a passenger train going north which had a green, Blue grey, Maroon combination as its first three coaches.  As it would not have been a Saturday I reckon now that I have probably seen this set as ECS heading north to Dundee to take up this working.  I would think that the Britannia would have worked the train from Carlisle as by May 1967 the Scottish Region had finished with all internal steam working (except for the famous J36 at Seafield) and were trying to avoid steam workings in and out of  the region from the LMR as most of the coaling and watering facilities had been closed.  Derek Cross did photograph a few exceptions but recorded that any locos coming north had to be sent back as soon as possible, I would doubt very much if this loco had worked the train through from Dundee

 

Jim

[Ben B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goGk_Gpmj6U

 

Have a need to move a boat up-hill?  Why not build the most insane, diesel-punk creation possible that combines railway locomotives, tractor technology, a boat, and a ton of concrete?

 

(BTW this chaps videos are well worth a watch, there's quite a few railway-related vids).

[jonny777]

Another from the Facebook gallery. 

 

Don't worry if your BR arrows look a bit amateurish. Just leave the old logo next to it as well. 

 

 

[montyburns56]

17 hours ago, nigb55009 said:

I would assume that the Brit photo would have been taken in 1967, 1966 at the earliest. According to the 1969 Working Timetable, which is the closest I have to 1967, 1M31 was the 0745 Saturday only, Dundee to Blackpool North. If so, that could explain the mixed bag of coaches. 1M31 was one of the trains that ran through Preston twice on it`s way to the coast. First, the train would pass through the East Lancs side of Preston Station to run up to Todd Lane Junction before  passing Lostock Hall shed and returning via Farington Curve Junction back through Preston and on to Blackpool. A lot of the Saturday only trains seemed to keep the same reporting number year in year out. Hope this helps, Nige.

 

The caption on Flickr says "70023 VENUS southbound at Oxenholme 1st July 1967"

[nigb55009]

Sorry Monty, I didn`t look at Flickr it was more of a guess than anything. I have managed to find a photo of the return working, also in 1967, headed by  a Black 5 (1045 ex Blackpool). Also a Britannia hauled 1S35, which the caption says is the 1045 Blackpool to Edinburgh. I may have another, slightly older WTT, so I may be able to confirm which is correct. The return Dundee service doesn`t to be in the 1969 WTT. So, as they say, watch this space.

[john new]

The oddity to me is why that lone S Region coach is in a north west rake? Had it been transferred between regions but not yet repainted? 

 

Edited May 14, 2021 by john new