Administrators SteveCole Posted December 5, 2013 Administrators Share Posted December 5, 2013 BRM January 2014 + FREE 32-page Supplement 4 Amazing Layouts Our Editor’s Choice layout this month is the stunning O gauge Heyside. Richard Lambert explains how he rebuilt a popular O gauge exhibition layout to suit his space and circumstances. We also have: • New Kinmundy - a stunning, frost-covered EM gauge layout • Blue is the Colour - an N gauge layout of blue diesel days. • Peter’s Street - a modern image 00 gauge layout. Practical BRM Improve your modelling with our selection of easy-to-follow Practical BRM articles: • Modelling snow and ice. • Two-Hour Challenge - build a mobile phone antenna in just 120-minutes. • Adapt Bachmann’s new 4F locomotives. • A finescale conversion of the Graham Farish J39. New products Find out what’s new in the world of railway modelling, plus in-depth reviews of Hornby’s new Star (OO gauge), Bachmann’s L&Y Radial Tank (OO gauge) and Ixion’s Fowler Diesel (O gauge). FREE 32-page supplement Don’t miss ‘The BRM Guide to… Building Your First Layout! Part 1 of this 32-page guide focuses on trackplans, baseboards, track laying and wiring. Plus… Q&A 9 Readers’ Layouts Skytrex Interview Letters Diary Dates The Digital Edition is available to download now! For more information and links to download the BRM Digital Edition, go to: www.model-railways-live.co.uk/magazine Watch the preview video here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter220950 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Let's hope it won't be sealed in a plastic bag or there'll be one less sale again, I like to see what I'm buying first :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 5, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 5, 2013 Let's hope it won't be sealed in a plastic bag or there'll be one less sale again, I like to see what I'm buying first :-) I think it will be because there's a free Hornby 2014 calendar with it.Hopefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Let's hope it won't be sealed in a plastic bag or there'll be one less sale again, I like to see what I'm buying first :-) OMG someone has mentioned a Plastic bag !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :jester: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky W Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Let's hope it won't be sealed in a plastic bag or there'll be one less sale again, I like to see what I'm buying first :-) Sorry, but with two separate supplements (at least), the magazine will need to be in a bag. Between here and the reverse of the backing board to the mag, you should get a good idea as to what's inside.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmthtrains - David Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Tried downloading on my ipad but says failed. Also doesn't tell you how much it costs... David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Sorry, but with two separate supplements (at least), the magazine will need to be in a bag. Between here and the reverse of the backing board to the mag, you should get a good idea as to what's inside.... Of course. Nothing like the problem I had with a tin of baked beans the other week. They were in a solid metal can that I couldn't open to check that they were the colour, size, taste and smell that I would be happy with before I got them home. It's terrible that things are sold in sealed containers. I usually like to have a good rake through things I might buy, use, maul and soil them before putting it back on the shelf and quietly slipping away. G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Of course. Nothing like the problem I had with a tin of baked beans the other week. They were in a solid metal can that I couldn't open to check that they were the colour, size, taste and smell that I would be happy with before I got them home. It's terrible that things are sold in sealed containers. I usually like to have a good rake through things I might buy, use, maul and soil them before putting it back on the shelf and quietly slipping away. G. So presumably, Grahame, you buy your cars and houses without looking at them, very trusting, faith does still exist. Cheers Godders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted December 6, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 6, 2013 Sorry, but with two separate supplements (at least), the magazine will need to be in a bag. Between here and the reverse of the backing board to the mag, you should get a good idea as to what's inside.... Do you ever analyse sales of "bagged" months versus "unbagged". Like Peter I like to see what I'm buying and more likely to buy if I can peruse it first. What I'm looking at is articles that interest me, the length of these articles (are they wordy or picture orientated). Is there enough of interest overall? Quite often it may be a small article of particular interest to me that swings it.For example in this edition I'm not really into O Gauge but it looks a nice layout. Could be interested in the EM and BR Blue layouts too, but if I can't see them I'll never know.The backing sheet can only give a hint of that. I also tend to find supplements to be of less interest (because they cover old ground, starting a model railway,garden railways etc) , although if there is a free dvd I may be tempted. Particularly enjoyed the series you did a few years back showing various layouts. I particularly remember Kendale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 So presumably, Grahame, you buy your cars and houses without looking at them, Humour failure? You might not have noticed but there's a big difference between everyday consumables, such as something that cost pennies (tin of beans) or a few quid around the price of a pint (like a magazine) than with a major long term investment like a car or house costing thousands of pounds. Sigh. G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Do you ever analyse sales of "bagged" months versus "unbagged". Some bagged issues sell more than unbagged; it all depends what the extras are. We try and give a decent preview of what's within whichever way via video and image preview. I have to say Tony's 4F variations article is an excellent step-by-step. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Humour failure? You might not have noticed but there's a big difference between everyday consumables, such as something that cost pennies (tin of beans) or a few quid around the price of a pint (like a magazine) than with a major long term investment like a car or house costing thousands of pounds. Sigh. G. These days I and many others can not afford to buy many magazines. With the cost of magazines so high it would be nice to be able to compare products (magazines) before buying them. Your argument about their comparative prices is immaterial. We all like to browse and make judgments based on what we see. I can see a need for plastic bags to protect the goods but it surely wouldn't be that difficult to provide a "perusal" copy that wasn't sealed. I very much doubt whether WH Smith sells every copy of every magazine and if they do and the "perusal" copy is the last one they could sell it off at a lower price. Cheer up Grahame we didn't force you to live in "Byfleet, an old village of England". If you bought fewer magazines you could afford to move to a new village. Cheers Godders PS just looked at Stoney Lane, top class model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Grafarman Posted December 6, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 6, 2013 You had me at 'N gauge...Blue Diesel' !! Looking forward to it David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators SteveCole Posted December 6, 2013 Author Administrators Share Posted December 6, 2013 These days I and many others can not afford to buy many magazines. With the cost of magazines so high it would be nice to be able to compare products (magazines) before buying them. Your argument about their comparative prices is immaterial. We all like to browse and make judgments based on what we see. I can see a need for plastic bags to protect the goods but it surely wouldn't be that difficult to provide a "perusal" copy that wasn't sealed. I very much doubt whether WH Smith sells every copy of every magazine and if they do and the "perusal" copy is the last one they could sell it off at a lower price. Cheer up Grahame we didn't force you to live in "Byfleet, an old village of England". If you bought fewer magazines you could afford to move to a new village. Cheers Godders PS just looked at Stoney Lane, top class model. Apologies, but this issue is bagged. However, whilst I appreciate that it's not the same as flicking through the magazine at newsstand we do make every effort to give you the information to make an informed choice about what's inside the magazine: * We produce a preview video for you to watch: http://bit.ly/1gae6sB * We print a mini contents on the back of the backing board, which can be clearly seen through the bag - this includes images of the pages inside the magazine * We list the content on RMweb * We list the content on Model-Railways-Live Hopefully the above will whet your appetite enough to give the January issue a go. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted December 6, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 6, 2013 Yes actually I have just looked at the video and it does look like a good edition. May well be tempted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Cheer up Grahame we didn't force you to live in "Byfleet, an old village of England". Eh? I've no idea why you think I don't like living in Byfleet or that I need cheering up. I was the one that introduced some humour but it was you who didn't see the funny side and are the one who can't afford many magazines. Perhaps it's you who needs cheering up. Oh well, no point in flogging a wrapped horse (oops, sorry, selling a bagged magazine). Besides we've 'bean' there before. G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 6, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2013 Sorry, but with two separate supplements (at least), the magazine will need to be in a bag. Between here and the reverse of the backing board to the mag, you should get a good idea as to what's inside.... Presumably it will include one of those separate cards (backing board?) showing the contents page? Rather a neat idea as you can see what's in the mag before you buy. Mind you if you want to read it for nothing having it in a bag on the shop shelf is not very helpful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Apologies, but this issue is bagged. However, whilst I appreciate that it's not the same as flicking through the magazine at newsstand we do make every effort to give you the information to make an informed choice about what's inside the magazine: * We produce a preview video for you to watch: http://bit.ly/1gae6sB * We print a mini contents on the back of the backing board, which can be clearly seen through the bag - this includes images of the pages inside the magazine * We list the content on RMweb * We list the content on Model-Railways-Live Hopefully the above will whet your appetite enough to give the January issue a go. Steve Hi Steve, I must give you and your BRM colleagues top marks for at least taking the effort to reply and trying to tempt me into buying your magazine. I have looked through the contents as listed by yourself above, I have viewed the promo video and there is nothing that tempts me except ironically what is contained in the "Free" supplement on building your first layout. Even this is a perverse interest because I have no need for the information therein but being well versed in electrical matters I would be interested in what the articles are proliferating. I usually find that the writers of these articles have no idea about electrical matters and are usually vague in their guidance. So thank you very much Steve but I think on this occasion I will not be accepting your offer. However, if I do go into WH Smith I will see if their is a "perusable" copy and may reconsider my decision. BTW one thing, which is out of your hands, but never the less is pertinent is that for me to go to WH Smith I have to park at the shopping Mall and pay a minimum £2.50 parking which puts up the cost of you magazine to £6.25. Cheers Godders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 They're in Sainsbury regularly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godders Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 They're in Sainsbury regularly. I say, Coombe Barton, what sort of fellow do you think I am. Sainsbury, you'll be suggesting I shop at Lidl next. Must check out magazines at Fortnum & Mason on my next visit. Toodle-oo Godders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted December 6, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2013 I have to say Tony's 4F variations article is an excellent step-by-step. Not to mention Mick Simpson on finescaleing the new Farish J39. A great entry to steam in 2FS. Jerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I say, Coombe Barton, what sort of fellow do you think I am. Sainsbury, you'll be suggesting I shop at Lidl next. Must check out magazines at Fortnum & Mason on my next visit. Toodle-oo Godders I thought that I was going posh with Sainsbury Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted December 6, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2013 Some bagged issues sell more than unbagged; it all depends what the extras are. We try and give a decent preview of what's within whichever way via video and image preview. I have to say Tony's 4F variations article is an excellent step-by-step. I'll have to buy it for the calendar ........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Next month; scratchbuilding brick walls with a how-to guide for banging one's head. I'll have to buy it for the calendar ........ Don't forget your fiends and relatives; they'll all want one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland_Red Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Can't wait for that one Andy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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