RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted December 16, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2013 ...Only 3 hours after the announcements and there are 150 posts and over 200 users browsing this topic!... It's also caused the new highest online figure (previously 765 in November last year), now at 800 as of 10.15 this morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted December 16, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2013 So why are thye doing a set of Mk3s in the first Midland Mainline livery, but no power cars? I think they are. Sure I saw them somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted December 16, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2013 So why are thye doing a set of Mk3s in the first Midland Mainline livery, but no power cars? They are doing the power cars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted December 16, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2013 They are doing the power cars. Indeed Midland Mainline Class 43 HST DCC Ready. 5 pole skew wound , twin motor drive. Operating lights. Day and night lighting. Etched metal parts. Engine detail. Cab detail. Scale speed. Pick ups on all wheels. Mid 90s livery. Code: R3270 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted December 16, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2013 It must be a Hornby error rather than Andy's as Pat Hammond also quotes the late crest one as 30345. JE Yes I can confirm that the original information released by Hornby stated 30345. It is on the list of clarifications to seek from them once the dust has settled a little. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted December 16, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2013 Here's a puzzler though. As far as I can see R4620 and R4628 are listed as Mk1 coaches Carmine & Cream. Both are SO, but these are the only ones listed as Carmine & Cream . Is this correct or is there a brake and a composite lurking somewhere? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 But is it definately a TRSB? (RFM tooling?) Or have they used the wrong artwork when really they should have shown a three window TRUB? Same mistake(?) last year as well. As presumably if you are having a TRSB for an ER HST set then one will also need a TRUK. i was wondering the same thing - were these ever in the blue/grey livery for 125s? i thought the 4 window buffets/rests appeared from executive or even swallow livery onwards but in the 1970s and 1980s im sure only the 3 window buffet was around. ?? maybe a resident coachaphile can shed some light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrow_Hawk Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 This year's announcements were quite a shocker. As a modeler in the fields of Eastern and Southern territory, I'm quite satisfied with the announcement of all four engines. The K1 was an engine I imagined Hornby doing for a few years now, but now its finally coming out. We now have some East Anglian stars, and I couldn't ask for any better. The Blackmotor is an incredible surprise too. Well done Hornby. May this year's choices bring the company great success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Not currently, but the Lima ones were MK2b's I thought. Having just looked at the number of variants for each MK2 type, I think I can predict what we're going to see next - MK2b's as there are only three types; BFK, FK and TSO (the 2e's are BSO, FO and TSO, the 2f's are BSO, FO, TSO (plus DBSO)). were the corridor versions only in mk2d then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted December 16, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2013 Just seen the RRP on the teak BR era Gresley coaches!! Ouchie... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted December 16, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2013 colas 56, that wil do nicely (although i did know about it a few weeks back so not a huge surprise!) royal 67 too, might try and get one of those via the Hornby site Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley47708 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Just bought enough flush glazing to do my Lima Intercity livery Mk 3s. Never mind really pleased to see this version of Intercity is being done. Intercity 1986 as Hornby are calling it has been missing for some time. Mk 2E are exciting. Could they be flush glazed versions of the old Lima air cons? Not sure which version of Intercity they will be. I think Intercity in italics came along in 87 when the HST s began to appear in Intercity Swallow. It s called Intercity post 1986 on the web. Could my detailed fleet of 20 plus Lima 47s be about to go DVD sound? Will they cheap as chips sound chips be a) removable, b ) available without buying a loco, and c) dare I ask recordable. I am assuming the sound will be realistic. Someone asked about Mk 2 bs, Lima did the bs or cs wonder if I buy flush glazing kits and then someone may reissue them already flush glazed! Well done Hornby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
valeofyork Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Indeed Midland Mainline Class 43 HST DCC Ready. 5 pole skew wound , twin motor drive. Operating lights. Day and night lighting. Etched metal parts. Engine detail. Cab detail. Scale speed. Pick ups on all wheels. Mid 90s livery. Code: R3270 Where are they, then? I've been through the diesel locos section twice and can't see them! p.s. doing a search on 'Midland Mainline' only brings up the coaches Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan452 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 RE: But is it definately a TRSB? (RFM tooling?) i was wondering the same thing - were these ever in the blue/grey livery for 125s? i thought the 4 window buffets/rests appeared from executive or even swallow livery onwards but in the 1970s and 1980s im sure only the 3 window buffet was around. ?? maybe a resident coachaphile can shed some light. The four window TRUK and TRSB were the original HST catering vehicle designs from the time when HST's were going to have two vehicles in each set. So they would have been in blue/grey. However the Hornby (adapted Lima) four window model is a locomotive hauled RFM so strictly speaking innacurate for HST use. Even though some of these were converted from redundant HST TRUK's. However an Eastern Region HST with only one catering vehicle would require the three window TRUB (applying to all standard formation sets from around the mid eighties hence why the TRUK's became redundant and some were converted in-to loco hauled RFM's). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted December 16, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2013 Where are they, then? I've been through the diesel locos section twice and can't see them! See this post http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/79822-2014-Hornby-announcements/?p=1264572 titled "train packs and train sets" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Where are they, then? I've been through the diesel locos section twice and can't see them! they are just below the executive HST packs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
csvt2004 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 New Mk2's Just what is an "Open First Composite" ? Must be a typo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim49 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Great news about the K1, long overdue in my opinion, especially as the real one has been active on both main line and preserved lines for so long. The Claud is also an attractive engine but doesn't fit in with my Scottish and S&DJR interests. (Quickly, would somebody whisper "It doesn't really matter") Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted December 16, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2013 That’s a nice big load of (pleasant) surprises! But for me the real interesting addition to the range is the proposed :-“Railmaster Loco Detection System”. This could open up the whole “Layout Automation” thing to the masses!Let’s hope! But I really would like more details first.Depending on what their system uses (reflective strips/magnets/Active IR/???) you could even use bits of their system and incorporate it into your own “home brewed” system. :)Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
valeofyork Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 See this post http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/79822-2014-Hornby-announcements/?p=1264572 titled "train packs and train sets" Ah, I see them there - I was looking on the Hornby website, and they don't appear to be on there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frobisher Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 were the corridor versions only in mk2d then? What I have from my (brief) investigation at therailwaycentre.com (bracketed values indicate variants) MK2 BFK, BSO, FK, SO, TSO MK2a BFK, BSO, FK, TSO MK2b BFK, FK, TSO MK2c BFK, BSO, FK, FO (SO), TSO(T) MK2d BFK, BSO, FO, FK, TSO(T) MK2e BSO, FO, TSO MK2f (D)BSO, FO (SO), TSO So, yup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
valeofyork Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Ah, I see them there - I was looking on the Hornby website, and they don't appear to be on there! To add to this, the Hornby site also shows Arriva Mk3s and DVT to go with the 67 - these aren't shown on the RMWeb list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 That's somewhat over the top describing them as a " waste of materials and manufacturing capacity" & "existing pups" People like Jim S-W have made some really nice models using the Lima 87 & Hornby 86 as a base. Yes, but ignoring the custom etches that Jim does, you still need a Lima 87, Hornby 90 bogies, and a Bachmann Warship chassis which are available secondhand (plus detailing bits, paint and transfers). That really isn't the way the hobby works anymore and harks back to the late 1990's when Hornby produced no new locos for 3 years, you can do a lot with £20 locos from swapmeets but the final cost is more than the better locos that have come since and which have been well supported. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bigcheeseplant Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I may get a J15 for Aylesbury as three ended up shedded there for the Watlington branch I will post a photo later tonight, I hope Brassmasters do one of their fold up sprung chassis for them. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 As a modeller of the Swanage Railway I am pleased to see the introduction of the 700 as this fills the last remaining gap in ready to run motive power. The 700 class was used on the daily goods from Hamworthy, the clay train and for shunting passenger coaches. It can be produced in a variety of liveries from LSWR to BR. As it is a simple locomotive to build I wonder if Hornby could consider making it in England to save the long waits for Chinese models. Several years ago I bought a ready to run 00 Works model made in England. It cost a bit more but it was money well spent. You can also buy an excellent n gauge one made in the Isle of Mann for about £70. I am pleased Hornby are producing some high specification BR SR Mk1s. They will probably be in the correct livery and will give Bachmann a run for their money. Manston will be useful for anyone modelling the preserved Swanage Railway. Surprisingly I will be buying the Railroad Golden Shuttle. There was picture of this on page 1041 of Arthur Mees' encyclopaedia which I have had for the last 50 years. Virtually every other A4 has been made including Golden Shuttle in LNER black but I am delighted to see that I don't have to wait much longer for this model. I will be interested to see how it compares with my Wrenn Sir Nigel Gresley that I bought for about the same price. I will also be buying the 2HAL. I don't think I will get away with running it on my model of the Swanage Railway so perhaps I will have to build a new layout to run it with my Wrenn Brighton Belle, my Tri-ang 4 Sub and my Hornby 2 BIL. I am pleased that Hornby will be making another Maunsell Pull-Push set. If it ever arrives it will be like waiting for a bus. One full one goes past after six months and then three will arrive hopefully two years after the first was announced. It is like dangling a carrot in front of a donkey. I am glad I made a BSL kit. Best wishes Robin Brasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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