RMweb Premium melmerby Posted January 12, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2014 For steam loco's I thought France just counted axles instead of wheels-eg 2-3-1 for a Pacific. As in Honegger's piece of music "Pacific 231" . I think the Swiss count powered axles followed by total axles? Wiki isn't very clear on this. Ed Like this example from Hattons: http://www.ehattons.com/38989/LGB_22405_RHB_Ge_6_6_Crocodile_electric_locomotive_415_in_Rhaetian_Bahn_green/StockDetail.aspx (6 axles - 6 powered axles) Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted January 12, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2014 The locomotives were not all filthy black. I remember seeing a BR green airsmoothed Bulleid Pacific hauling the Golden Arrow in the mid 1950s through Orpington Station. The locomotive and coaches were immaculate. I expect the other regions had some prestige trains that were also immaculate. I agree that most engines had a layer of grime on them in BR days. I too remember some clean green engines Castles and Kings on the Paddington - Wolves - Birkenhead service for instance (no doubt on the West of England services as well!), where the green always looked more "green" than it did on the LM Jubilees for instance. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 R2260 Manston from about 10 years ago. IMG_8140.JPG I would be prepared to Pay £200 or kill for this model! I've seen the real one so often at Swanage! Unfortunately, I just don't have the money when one comes up on the market! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I appreciate what the description says but the pictures look like they are of a less detailed model - for example the three lamp/disc holders above the buffer beam are missing. There could be changes to the tooling and still meet the description so we will have to wait and see, although the pricing does indeed suggest a full fat model. 750 are being produced, at a price of £125.00 to Club members and £157.49 to non-members. I've just seen the pic you refer to, on the cover of the CC mag. two things. first the pic is of the previous Manston release with cut-down tender. either it was photoshopped, or the model in question had had these bits lost with handling. Second, the side profile pic in the mag shows the lamp irons fitted. so nothing to worry about I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I would be prepared to Pay £200 or kill for this model! I've seen it so often at Swanage! Unfortunately, I just don't have the money when one comes up on the market! Meaning that you do have it sometimes? Then why not put it aside for next time it comes up? Or try the kill option Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Meaning that you do have it sometimes? Then why not put it aside for next time it comes up? Or try the kill option Ed I've just realised that my OP makes no sense! I've seen the Real one at Swanage so many times, I'd love to get the model. But whenever one of the models comes up for sale, I don't have the money to buy it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I've just realised that my OP makes no sense! I've seen the Real one at Swanage so many times, I'd love to get the model. But whenever one of the models comes up for sale, I don't have the money to buy it! You may find it cheaper to buy another Bulleid light Pacific with a late crest and a cut down tender then renumber and rename it. Having said that an R2260 Manston would be a good investment if you have got £175 to spare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 ....... Having said that an R2260 Manston would be a good investment if you have got £175 to spare. ....or maybe not ? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/80898-southern-pacifics-mazak-problem/ . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 ....or maybe not ? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/80898-southern-pacifics-mazak-problem/ . I'd just swop the bogie with my current West County! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 ....or maybe not ? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/80898-southern-pacifics-mazak-problem/ . Thank you. I have stored most of my locomotives in the loft as that is the only place with enough room to store them. I have noticed that the pony trucks on my Golden Eagle and Flying Scotsman have changed from black to a metallic grey colour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I appreciate that this may have been covered elsewhere, but can anyone give me the reason why the "Thomas the Tank Engine" items no longer appear within the Hornby range. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernelectric Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I appreciate that this may have been covered elsewhere, but can anyone give me the reason why the "Thomas the Tank Engine" items no longer appear within the Hornby range. Still listed on Hornby's website, albeit what appears to be a reduced range at present: http://www.Hornby.com/shop/locomotives/thomas-and-friends-locomotives/ http://www.Hornby.com/shop/sets/thomas-and-friends-train-sets/ http://www.Hornby.com/shop/rolling-stock/thomas-and-friends-rolling-stock/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40F Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I appreciate that this may have been covered elsewhere, but can anyone give me the reason why the "Thomas the Tank Engine" items no longer appear within the Hornby range. Two possible reasons : 1] Cost of license renewal 2] Lack of sales or possibly lack of interest on Hornbys part Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Until the 60th edition of the Hornby Catalogue 2014 comes out on 19 January I don't see how anyone knows what has been deleted. I often find what has been deleted as interesting as the new products. According to the topic Hornby Hobbies Ltd - 2013 Product Delays and Modelzone Announcements R350 Percy and R351 Thomas were among the items delayed until 2014. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike at C&M Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 As a retailer, I have received an advance copy of the catalogue to facilitate assembling my 2014 order, and there is definitely no 'Thomas the Tank Engine items shown. A quick search on the trade website for "Thomas" and "Percy" shows no items listed either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 ......can anyone give me the reason why the "Thomas the Tank Engine" items no longer appear within the Hornby range. It could be a combination of factors? The "Thomas" thing has run its course v.v. train sets. The demise of the train-set, as a popular child's toy. The cost of the license fee set against poor sales. There also seems to be more focus on "Thomas" themed toys aimed more appropriately at the target age group (3-5?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Word on Hornby's own web forum is that Hornby have almost completely sold out of current Thomas stock, and don't currently have plans to do another manufacturing run. Without inside information it's impossible to know their future plans for the range, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they've concluded it's no longer cost-effective. Hornby have had the Thomas brand licence for several years, dating back to before the brand was bought from Britt Allcroft by HIT Entertainment, and a lot has changed since then. According to acquaintances in the heritage railway community, HIT significantly increased the amount they charge to preserved railways for the right to do Thomas themed days, so it wouldn't be surprising if Hornby's licence fee for using the brand went up as well. HIT itself has now been taken over by Mattel, who are a toy manufacturer in their own right as well as now owning several production companies making children's TV programmes, so it's possible that Mattel would prefer not to licence the brand to another manufacturer. The Thomas products currently on sale on the Argos website are all made by Mattel-owned brands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I would suggest getting a Bachmann OO Thomas loco and coaches, Bachmann has the license for Thomas in North America and their OO Thomas is more accurate to the one in the series, (plus has moving eyes,) and Annie and Clarabelle are correct, as well. Easy enough to buy on eBay in the States as well as any otehr retailer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 As for Bachmann OO Thomas items, they are marketed as HO in North America, but are, in fact, OO. So don't let the HO thing scare you off. I see all the Bachmann Thomas products in the shops and can absolutely confirm that. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bachmann-HO-Scale-Train-Thomas-Friends-Thomas-The-Tank-Engine-58741-/141138969881?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item20dc89c519 http://www.ebay.com/sch/HO-Scale-/19128/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=thomas+annie&_nkwusc=thoms+annie&_rdc=1 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bachmann-00462-Thomas-And-Friends-HO-Scale-Train-Set-With-Annie-And-Clarabel-/141162126084?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item20ddeb1b04 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 12, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2014 So we can expect to see Hornby Thomas items in the ebay madness thread soon? Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 12, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2014 So we can expect to see Hornby Thomas items in the ebay madness thread soon? Cheers, Mick Only if they're painted yellow and have Sodor Network decals on them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 12, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2014 Only if they're painted yellow and have Sodor Network decals on them That won't be me then.................. I only use Network Rail decals. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainman119 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Anyone know if the new R.3228 J94 NCB Kent is prototype?? I have no listing of J94's at Tilmanstone Colliery, Kent. Anyone know which builder?? Trainman 119 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 So we can expect to see Hornby Thomas items in the ebay madness thread soon? Cheers, Mick More likely Hornby' Madness ' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Reading the info in one of the February mags - and checking it on Hornby's website - it appears there are some fictious Shunters Trucks lined up for 2014 with one labelled 'Laira Truro Goods and another labelled 'Hallams Marsh' (BR numbered but - again - incorrect livery colour) and there is also one for 'Cheltenham' which might well be accurate. I can't make head or tail of 'Laira Truro Goods' because it ought to be one place or the other and I presume that 'Hallams Marsh' might be a corruption of Hallen Marsh. what about the 'margate' shunter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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