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The Chemicals distributor buildings take shape....

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The corrugated paper is okay, except that it has a flat backing sheet to it, so it can't really be properly overlapped like real sheets are. I've done an overlap along the horizontal layers, but felt trying to cut individual 'scale' 8' x 4' sheets and overlap them on the verticals as well was asking for trouble.

Also, on the unloading shed I fixed them to the foamboard with pva - this has caused some warping of the shell as the glue dried. I have just done the 'flat' with plasticard brick sheet for the loading dock wall and plain plasticard for the surface, and used UHU glue for those and the corrugated paper. Will see what the effect is on the foamboard shell tomorow. :scratchhead:

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Those high speed runs are brilliant, a sign of really good work on putting all the humps, dips and twists in  the track but keeping it in gauge such that you can run through it like that. 

I dont think many drivers would have the guts to go that fast on track like that.

 

Don

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14 hours ago, F-UnitMad said:

I fixed them to the foamboard with pva - this has caused some warping of the shell as the glue dried

I had the same problem when using foamboard for background flats. I found that sticking a piece of paper or thin card with PVA to the rear of the foamboard section before applying cladding to the front helped to prevent this, as then (I am guessing) the PVA caused the paper covering on both sides of the foamboard to shrink equally. 

 

For the warping I encountered prior to trying this technique, I was able to remedy most of it after the fact by gently bending it flat by hand, sticking the paper on the rear and then using weights to keep things flat while the PVA dried. This could only be done on individual pieces though, not sections that had been joined together to make something more three dimensional.

 

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2021... the third decade of the 21st Century. 

I have to say that if this is the future, I'm not impressed. :nono:

 

Where are the Flying Cars, the Moon bases, the under-sea cities..?? :dontknow:  

According to The Eagle comic, Colonel Dan Dare was born the same year as me. I doubt he'd be very impressed, either.... :mosking:

 

Anyway, for something else offbeat but just very slightly more related to this thread, here's another photo of my very first model F-Unit, an old Atlas N gauge model. It's the one I repainted into Soo Line livery, but here it is as I bought it, 32 years ago, in Lehigh Valley colours (someone else's repaint!!)....

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Once again nothing to do with US O Scale in general, or my layout in particular, but inspired  by my 'State of the Layouts' address recently, today I blew the dust off my small O Scale shunty-plank "Lyddlow Goods" layout, all 4ft8inch of it, including fiddle-stick....

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I had a relaxing hour or so of pottering about with a loco & a few wagons. After all, everyone who starts in O Scale claims that's all the stock they'll ever need. :angel:  :spiteful:  :tease:  

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Another Scattergun project started. :rolleyes:

At least this time it is on the Portway layout. ;)

 

I intend to have chain-link fences around the Transload Yard and the Chemicals Distributor, with working gates for rail access, to add to the operating potential & recreate an important part of real industrial branch line activity - unlocking a lot of gates! Of course in reality switches (points) are also locked with padlocks when not in use; I am still thinking how to best replicate this, if at all, especially given the locations of some of my switches.

However I digress; today is about fencing & gates. Having looked online at the price of O Scale chain-link fence kits :swoon: ..and picked myself back up again, I decided that I should have a go myself.

I intend to try and obtain aluminium mesh for the fencing itself, and some 'dummy' barbed wire. For now I've made a start on the first set of gates, soldered from steel & brass rod - steel for the uprights as it's thicker and stronger than the brass I have.

First up a very simple plan drawn on some mdf. One leg of the uprights is left long for now, to go through the baseboard, inside plastic tube. A brass top hat bearing is soldered on the leg at the depth the gate will sit at. Solder is Carrs 188, and flux is the 'safety flux' from Build O Gauge Online. 

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And in place on the layout....

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Under the board I will fit some arrangement as yet not designed, to hold the gates in the closed position and held with a small padlock....

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...so during operations the gates will literally have to be unlocked to be opened. :locomotive: :yes:

 

...and woe betide any idiot who forgets, or who just tries to twist them open above the board!!! :shout: :punish:  :jester:

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I am sure you will make a working padlock Jordan but how the hell will you be able to put the key back in once you have taken it out  :nono:

 

The gates look the business. I await with interest to see what you can find for the mesh I have a feeling Aluminimum will be too thick. I was looking a some strainers but they are made to be curved. I am wondering about trying a sample of this

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rodent-Mesh-1-19mm-0-4mm-Stainless/dp/B07L5N8WT5/ref=asc_df_B07L5N8WT5/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=265064983195&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15561844094

 

Don 

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I’m fairly sure I’ve seen a recent video of a layout where there is a line of padlocks attached to the outside of the layout fascia, in line with the switches but not actually connected operationally.  The operator just needs to remember to unlock / lock the padlock as part of each move - something which looked to have become a habit in the video so was no problem.

 

I suppose you could have that as an ‘if all else fails’ back-up.

 

Another approach could be to encase the operating mechanism for the gates in a small box of some sort, and the padlock opens the box to gain access to the gate control?

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You might want to consider this idea, Jordan. Trevor also used ground throws as well, with a similar arrangement of chain and padlock.

http://mrhpub.com/2014-08-aug/land/files/assets/basic-html/index.html#112

I got some switch stands via Anything Narrow Gauge, although it was a few years ago now.

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3 hours ago, Keith Addenbrooke said:

I'm fairly sure I’ve seen a recent video of a layout where there is a line of padlocks attached to the outside of the layout fascia, in line with the switches but not actually connected operationally

Yes sure it was linked to on a recent thread here, I know the one you mean. I'd prefer to have something that isn't just an "artificial" task, if possible. I recall one of Lance Mindheim's (may his disciples prosper) blogs, where he used some small ratchet wheels on the fascia to represent setting brake wheels on cars. I did think that was going slightly too far, unless a mechanism could be built under the board that maybe raised a post in the track under the car truck to hold it - that would be good!!

3 hours ago, Regularity said:

You might want to consider this idea, Jordan. Trevor also used ground throws as well, with a similar arrangement of chain and padlock.

http://mrhpub.com/2014-08-aug/land/files/assets/basic-html/index.html#112

I got some switch stands via Anything Narrow Gauge, although it was a few years ago now.

 

Yes I've seen that before too, and as it does actually work it's a wonderful idea. The style of switchstand suits the layout period, too.

In my case I use Caboose Industries ground throws next to each switch; fitting under-board mechanisms would be difficult now especially for one switch which sits above the support wall I discussed earlier.

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14 hours ago, Donw said:

I await with interest to see what you can find for the mesh I have a feeling Aluminimum will be too thick. I was looking a some strainers but they are made to be curved. I am wondering about trying a sample of this

Nothing ventured, nothing gained; I have ordered 3 sheets of this:- ('fine' grade)

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/556814094/aluminium-modelling-mesh-fine-medium-and?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=aluminium+mesh+fine&ref=sr_gallery-1-1&organic_search_click=1&bes=1

Although it says £1.99 per sheet, they do an option of 3 sheets for £3.89*, plus P&P, which was 90p.

Each sheet is 25 x 20cm, I will report back when it arrives.

Anyone any experience of soldering aluminium to brass? :scratchhead: :dontknow:

 

* Edit: In comparison, Ebay prices seem to be either almost a Fiver for just one sheet of similar size, or £12 - £20 for a roll 50cm wide by 3 metres long. I don't need anywhere near that much!!!

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1 hour ago, F-UnitMad said:

Nothing ventured, nothing gained; I have ordered 3 sheets of this:- ('fine' grade)

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/556814094/aluminium-modelling-mesh-fine-medium-and?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=aluminium+mesh+fine&ref=sr_gallery-1-1&organic_search_click=1&bes=1

Although it says £1.99 per sheet, they do an option of 3 sheets for £3.89*, plus P&P, which was 90p.

Each sheet is 25 x 20cm, I will report back when it arrives.

Anyone any experience of soldering aluminium to brass? :scratchhead: :dontknow:

 

* Edit: In comparison, Ebay prices seem to be either almost a Fiver for just one sheet of similar size, or £12 - £20 for a roll 50cm wide by 3 metres long. I don't need anywhere near that much!!!

I think it will have to be glue.

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4 minutes ago, Northroader said:

It just won’t “take” solder.

Yes, I got the gist of that, as I knew that welding it is a dark art in itself.

 

Superglue it will have to be, then. At least it's only decorative. He says, until he forgets to open the gates before shoving a train through... :rolleyes: :banghead:  :shout:

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16 hours ago, F-UnitMad said:

unless a mechanism could be built under the board that maybe raised a post in the track under the car truck to hold it - that would be good!!

Just a cheap plastic worm driving a gear. Drill a hole near the edge of the gear and pop a small screw in with a brass wire bent with a ‘coat hanger’ at the bottom so the gear acts as a cam?


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1 hour ago, Northroader said:

https://m.facebook.com/groups/728920213839816/

 

sorry, you’ll have to scroll down a bit to get to a working gate very like yours. I see he’s limited the mesh  to the gate only, and kept the surrounding fencing simple material.

That's a private group.

 

Alternatively, Thomas Klimoski's solution on his Georgia Northeastern.

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On 11/01/2021 at 13:50, F-UnitMad said:

...used some small ratchet wheels on the fascia to represent setting brake wheels on cars. I did think that was going slightly too far...

 

I think a man of your talents should be able to knock up actual working brakes in o scale...

 

Then you wouldn't need pretend brake wheels on the fascia.

 

:D

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