RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted December 28, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 28, 2015 Welcome to RMw! That is superb work S7. Well done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted January 9, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2016 R3356 RailRoad BR 2-10-0 Crosti Boiler 9F Class (Early BR) Heavily Weathered Anyone heard what the running number of this one will be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 No number shown on that model, however TTS version is 92025 apparently.Both are E/C, not sure whether or not a smoke deflector is fitted. Hope this helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted January 16, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2016 No number shown on that model, however TTS version is 92025 apparently.Both are E/C, not sure whether or not a smoke deflector is fitted. Hope this helps. Hornby have the artwork up now for R3356, it's 92021 by the looks of it. Thankfully it's one I've already done so the one currently sitting in bits on my workbench is 92020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I guess being the owner of both 00 and O gauge crosti's I find my self wondering what on earth they sounded like? I will sadly have to put up with the standard 9f sound decoder and will never know the difference that is missing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Downer Posted March 5, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2016 Still no word from Hornby on whether their TTS sound version will be the smoke deflector version. On the website they actually ask for questions about particular models, and I've asked this one twice. No reply of course. How do they expect pre-orders for locos when they won't even specify exactly what they're producing? Hopeless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Maybe, just maybe, Hornby will release both the TTS and weathered version with the smoke deflector fitted. From memory, I think it was a relatively short period where this loco ran without this component. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 About 6 months, without referring to the relevant info, most were fitted by Feb. 1956. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted December 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) My Crostie has had a few mods and some weathering, a mix of airbrush and powders. I have renumbered it to 92022 which I believe lasted longest in original form. I have removed the extra handrail by the chimney and added lamp irons and missing handrails to front footplate. The bogie mounted footsteps were cut off, separated and fixed under footplate. These simple mods make all the difference, I may have a go at making up some brake gear at some point Thought that you might like this shot of 92022 at work in 1965, after de-Crostification. Edited December 17, 2016 by phil_sutters 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredo Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Hi, when Hornby released their model of 92023 in original condition a couple of years ago it had an late BR Crest. Was this historically correct or did the loco have an early crest until it was put into storage in 1959. thanks Fred Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted November 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2020 I’ve been thinking of getting one of these models in the later crest and smoke deflector, but as it’s “Railroad” model, how easy is it to add extra details? I know the front steps are missing as well as some of the finer details you’d expect on a more expensive model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 46444 Posted November 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2020 9 hours ago, jools1959 said: I’ve been thinking of getting one of these models in the later crest and smoke deflector, but as it’s “Railroad” model, how easy is it to add extra details? I know the front steps are missing as well as some of the finer details you’d expect on a more expensive model. These models perform well and are excellent value for money. Although in the RR range being a more modern offering from normal viewing distances they look the part. As with all the Hornby 9F models the lack of loco brakes is the only real major omission. The front foot steps are part of the bogie casting and look the part. I have one of these models on loan to a good friend. On mine I have added front lamp irons made from staples and added real coal in the tender. Using a Bachmann 9F detailing pack I have added suitable vacuum pipes. I also had some Bachmann 1B Tender cabside doors to hand so added these. Bachmann Spares Department are very helpful in sourcing these parts. If I remember correctly I also fitted a spare Bachmann tender draw bar which brought the loco and tender closer together. To finish I used a Hornby false screw link coupling on the front buffer beam as well. Although by no means perfect the Hornby Crosti 9F serves a purpose, runs well and if you're prepared to put some work into it scrubs up well with a few tweaks. My good friend worked on the real things at Wellingborough 15A. He has said you would never have the fireman's cabside window open due to smoke coming into the cab from the side chimney. He also commented on how poor they were at steaming compared to a regular 9F and were not liked. Hope that helps. Cheers, Mark 1 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted November 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) On 29/11/2020 at 21:08, Fredo said: Hi, when Hornby released their model of 92023 in original condition a couple of years ago it had an late BR Crest. Was this historically correct or did the loco have an early crest until it was put into storage in 1959. thanks Fred I was critical of this choice of number at the time. '023 was unique in having a longer smoke deflector and I have not come across any evidence of it carrying a late crest before rebuild. '021 would have been better as it DID have the late crest and a standard length deflector. Edited July 12, 2022 by RedgateModels 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted November 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2020 40 minutes ago, 46444 said: These models perform well and are excellent value for money. Although in the RR range being a more modern offering from normal viewing distances they look the part. As with all the Hornby 9F models the lack of loco brakes is the only real major omission. I seem to remember that when they did the souped-up Chinese-made 5 pole tender drive version, it did have brake blocks for the first time, but for some reason these didn't migrate to the loco-drive Railroad models. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, RedgateModels said: I was critical of this choice of number at the time. '023 was unique in having a longer smoke deflector and I have not come across any evidence of it carrying a late crest before rebuild. '021 would have been better as it DID have the late crest and a standard length deflector. Easy enough to change the number! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted December 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2020 I know this is slightly off topic but somewhere in this thread which I can’t find, someone mentioned that it was a shame one wasn’t saved and if it viable in building a new “Crosti”. Well, you might’ve be in luck as parked outside of the wagon repair shed in Barry, are the frames of 92245 which could be a good launch pad of recreating either a original or rebuilt Crosti 9F if there was the interest in doing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, jools1959 said: I know this is slightly off topic but somewhere in this thread which I can’t find, someone mentioned that it was a shame one wasn’t saved and if it viable in building a new “Crosti”. Well, you might’ve be in luck as parked outside of the wagon repair shed in Barry, are the frames of 92245 which could be a good launch pad of recreating either a original or rebuilt Crosti 9F if there was the interest in doing it. That's a lovely idea, but sadly freight locos don't seem to attract the level of interest of their flashier brethren. I think there are several standard 9F's in the renovation queue, not to mention the solitary Robinson 04. A great model by Redgate photographed a few posts back. John. Edited December 1, 2020 by John Tomlinson typo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 35 minutes ago, jools1959 said: .... it was a shame one wasn’t saved and if it viable in building a new “Crosti”. I wouldn't suggest that to anyone who footplated a Crosti in original condition - there was a good reason why the Crosti pre-heaters were removed; (at some considerable cost)! Look at a few photos of Crostis - if you can see the loco through the massed clouds of vile, sulphurous smoke. We called them '92 Stinks' !! John Isherwood. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamiel Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) On 30/11/2020 at 01:37, jools1959 said: I’ve been thinking of getting one of these models in the later crest and smoke deflector, but as it’s “Railroad” model, how easy is it to add extra details? I know the front steps are missing as well as some of the finer details you’d expect on a more expensive model. There is a nice 9F detailing kit from Comet, available through Wazard models. Here are some photos I did of one a few years ago, that kit plus a comet front bogie, some bits from the Brassmasters front bogie (but I would say just add the guitar wire for the springs if you want something simpler), Alan Gibson pony truck wheels, front steps from Comet. I improvised the brakes from Dapol wagon kits, the Horny Wheel have a lot of play and not much space for accurate 9F brakes. Plasticard for the tender, lots of weathering as I wanted it pretty used. I think replacing the piping under the cab makes a big difference, that and the steps and bogie. More details on my layout thread from this link. Other options to do this as well, but it is nice model to use to detail, as many others have shown on this page and thread. Jamie Edited December 4, 2020 by Jamiel 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jamiel said: There is a nice 9F detailing kit from Comet, available through Wazard models. Here are some photos I did of one a few years ago, that kit plus a comet front bogie, some bits from the Brassmasters front bogie (but I would say just add the guitar wire for the springs if you want something simpler), Alan Gibson pony truck wheels, front steps from Comet. I improvised the brakes from Dapol wagon kits, the Horny Wheel have a lot of play and not much space for accurate 9F brakes. Plasticard for the tender, lots of weathering as I wanted it pretty used. I think replacing the piping under the cab makes a big difference, that and the steps and bogie. More details on my layout thread from this link. Other options to do this as well, but it is nice model to use to detail, as many others have shown on this pae and thread. Jamie I've seen what you've done before. An excellent improvement. Pity I can't justify one on the ECML. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted December 4, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 4, 2020 And here''s my non-Crosti one with the Comet detailing and brakes. This is the Margate-era 9F lowered on its chassis, and with the wheels and motion replaced by the Chinese-era parts. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted December 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, davidw said: I've seen what you've done before. An excellent improvement. Pity I can't justify one on the ECML. Time to put your hand in your pocket! Choice of passenger or freight workings: Edited December 5, 2020 by Metr0Land Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Metr0Land said: Time to put your hand in your pocket! Choice of passenger or freight workings: Thanks a prototype for everything. York's a bit too far North for me. From what I understand the crostis tended to be midland engines. But looks like more possible than I thought 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted December 5, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 5, 2020 As I put in the “2021 Hopes” thread, a full fat rebuilt Crosti 9f would be top of my list, and I’m sure plenty of others as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 hour ago, davidw said: Thanks a prototype for everything. York's a bit too far North for me. From what I understand the crostis tended to be midland engines. But looks like more possible than I thought There are photos of them on tank workings from Stanlow to Colwick just east of Nottingham. Not far from there to the ECML!! Another possibility would be on the Midland through Melton and Oakham to Peterborough, I have a feeling I've seen a picture of one coming through Stamford on a freight, but can't remember where. John. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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