orford Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) I think I acknowledged that point in my last sentence. Edited February 21, 2015 by orford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHertsGER Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 "I'd have preferred a High Level chassis myself." Wouldn't we all - I even asked/attepted to bribe Chris before I put fretsaw to metal (a couple of years ago when I first heard rumors of the J15 and my kits were at an advanced stage of what someone here described as "shelf testing"). He was very encouraging...about asking Brassmasters.. So I did and they 'indicated' they might...might be be worth another 'ask'... So I got out the fretsaw... Best, Marcus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Going off the pace of this thread, it seems little black locos help fill little black holes in finances! Edited February 21, 2015 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21, 2015 To get it to the correct gauge? So why buy it in the first place? If you don't like 00 don't buy it - Simples! Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted February 21, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 21, 2015 Where is the "Smart ass" button when you need one? It's not unusual for EM and P4 modellers to buy an OO loco to run on their track After all an OO loco body is still 4mm scale, so one only needs to convert the wheels and possibly also the chassis to suit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Where is the "Smart ass" button when you need one? It's not unusual for EM and P4 modellers to buy an OO loco to run on their track After all an OO loco body is still 4mm scale, so one only needs to convert the wheels and possibly also the chassis to suit. It's only found on the American version of RMWeb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21, 2015 Where is the "Smart ass" button when you need one? It's not unusual for EM and P4 modellers to buy an OO loco to run on their track After all an OO loco body is still 4mm scale, so one only needs to convert the wheels and possibly also the chassis to suit. It just seems a waste to buy such a good model and chuck the chassis! If the chassis can be modded - fine, but discarding seems a pity. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Afew pics of my LNER version. Side on. It really looks the part: (Yes the tender is off the track!) Little and large, one of the LNER's largest tender locos alongside one of it's smallest: It is about the length of the P2 without tender! Front three-quarter: Rear three-quarter: Keith EDIT it is nice, quiet and smooth when running on straight DC. After some running in I have fitted a Lenz Standard Plus decoder and now need to set it up. Edited February 21, 2015 by melmerby 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted February 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21, 2015 MMm, yes, I agree it is a little cracker, the Lenz Standard + works well in it too. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21, 2015 Mine has now had a bit of a run around the layout (DCC) and it is absolutely superb. Slow running is flawless and it accelerates and decelerates extremely smoothly. My only comment would be that it it is somewhat overgeared as the top speed IMHO is too high. Using TrainController it gave a top speed of something around 80mph so the CVs needed tweaking to bring it down to something more realistic. (or did the little blighters actually shuttle around East Anglia at 80mph! ) - I set Start CV to 1, Mid to 70 and Top to 140. That gave me a top speed with TrainController of 50mph which suits me fine and a nice slow crawl to start. All in all an extremely good loco and at a little over £100 or so IMHO also good value with such a level of detail and performance. Isn't it a pity we have had to go through all that "Design Clever" nonsense when Hornby can really come up trumps if they really try? Why oh why couldn't the "enhanced" P2 have been nearly as good as this? Keith 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 A truly enhanced P2 would have been a risky business given the prototype, its limited appeal and a price of around £170.00. But at £80-odd smackers, everyone could afford a bit of eye-candy and I imagine the upgraded model sold itself on the back of the cheaper model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuty Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 It's only found on the American version of RMWeb. Ouch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21, 2015 A truly enhanced P2 would have been a risky business given the prototype, its limited appeal and a price of around £170.00. But at £80-odd smackers, everyone could afford a bit of eye-candy and I imagine the upgraded model sold itself on the back of the cheaper model. IMHO if Hornby had put tender pickups and a decent motor in the enhanced version it wouldn't have added much more than £10-£15 to what we actually ended up with and would have improved it no end. (There are tender pickups in the TTS version) Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dominion Posted February 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 21, 2015 I am now able to post links (thanks Andy) to the more detailed Great Eastern Railway Society journal articles on the J15 / Y14 referred to earlier that the GERS Chairman (my brother) sent to me from the GERS materials. They are really good articles, with the story of the class and with lots of details and pictures. The third article also includes pictures of 2 of the loco's Hornby just released. LNER 7524 on shed, and also 65445 with British Railways on the tender, at Colchester. He has said I can post the journal excerpts here for other forum members to refer to and also made the following comments. "The Journal of the Great Eastern Railway Society is available to members only, for copyright reasons. However, with the co-operation of the Society, I am able to reproduce four articles from Great Eastern Journal which deal with the GER Y14 class and their tenders. They are from Journals 2, 36 and 133. http://rmweb.co.uk/J15/Pages%20from%20JL002%20(modern%20style).pdf http://rmweb.co.uk/J15/Pages%20from%20JL036%20(modern%20style).pdf http://rmweb.co.uk/J15/Pages%20from%20JL133.pdf Anyone interested in further information might like to refer to the Society's Files Emporium:http://www.gersociet...-lm-locomotivesor consider joining the Great Eastern Railway Society:http://www.gersociet...e/membership-12There are also two booklets which may be of interest and produced with assistance from members of the GERS, for sale in the M&GN Society's shop. They are:J-15s Remembered https://shop.nnrailw...tree=1684\_1987Moving the Goods https://shop.nnrailw...tree=1684\_2004Proceeds from the sale of these will contribute to the appeal for funds to rebuild J-15 65462 on the North Norfolk Railway." 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Jackson Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 There was plenty available today at Model Rail Scotland and if you look around you can get one for £97...... It really is a beautiful engine, the LNER livery is very neat indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Many thanks Dominion. The second article has drawings that clear up the differences in the cab back head that I made a comment about in a previous post. No excuses now for not doing something about it. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1X Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 i brought mine yesterday , lovely runner from the box , now weathered, coaled up and crew added . well worth the money . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bigcheeseplant Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) I had no idea Hornby had done two different cab cuts outs and tenders, it was good fortune the one I got had the larger cab cut out that matched 65390 although it seems I will have to shorten the tender handrail to match the length of the one on the loco, add the boiler pipe and small details. As well as 65390 being used on the Watlington Branch 65405 and 65452 were also used. David Edited February 22, 2015 by David Bigcheeseplant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 22, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 22, 2015 We can only hope that the Adams Radial will be as good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post orford Posted February 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) Getting there with the first one............... But (before anyone pulls me up on it) - I should point out that the buffers, buffer-beams, tender wheels and loco chassis have yet to be weathered ! The tarpaulin rails/tarpaulin also have to be added in due course. Edited February 22, 2015 by orford 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tetsudofan Posted February 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 22, 2015 I gave in and bought an early crest version while we have some left! It's........fantastic, far better than I expected. Now I just need to concoct a story as to how it got onto the Southern region! Neil, It got lost just after leaving Liverpool Street and ended up on the East London Line at Shoreditch......I'm sure I saw one on the pick-up freight at Mottingham on the Dartford Loop Line...... Keith 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullie Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I had no idea Hornby had done two different cab cuts outs and tenders, it was good fortune the one I got had the larger cab cut out that matched 65390 although it seems I will have to shorten the tender handrail to match the length of the one on the loco, add the boiler pipe and small details. As well as 65390 being used on the Watlington Branch 65405 and 65452 were also used. David Like you I didn't realise there would be two different cabs but I bought the LNER version which is so nice I almost considered changing the period of my layout as it looks and runs superbly. It is a shame I did this but I'll run it as is until such time as I feel inclined to modify it, and spare bodies will probably be available or someone might even provide a replacement cab. There were so many variations it is likely to need surgery anyway and I will keep the original body as I'm sure I will use it in the future as it is so good. I also have a Claud on order, I'm sure I've ordered the correct version of that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) Weathering looks good there Mr.Orford, only let down by those typically Hornby toylike unpainted tyres sides..... Edited February 22, 2015 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbyandbf3fan Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share Posted February 22, 2015 Getting there with the first one............... But (before anyone pulls me up on it) - I should point out that the buffers, buffer-beams, tender wheels and loco chassis have yet to be weathered ! The tarpaulin rails/tarpaulin also have to be added in due course. Wow! Would you mind doing a quick step-by-step on how you make the tarpaulin rails? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris bales Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Getting there with the first one............... But (before anyone pulls me up on it) - I should point out that the buffers, buffer-beams, tender wheels and loco chassis have yet to be weathered ! The tarpaulin rails/tarpaulin also have to be added in due course. Superb my friend. I wish I had that skill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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