Further Lockdown modelling. More wagons.

[5Bel]

Hi All,

 

Dave, thanks for the comment, without your photos this project would not have been possible. I'll be using Ceptic's underframe photos for the DTS tomorrow. I finished all the body detail today with the completion of the inner end. It's the usual mix of wire and plastic and the steps are NNK products which are sadly not available at the moment.

 

 

 

I have modified the bogies to make more of a representation of the BR(S) bogies but need wheels to complete the unit. These I have ordered from Peters Spares along with enough for my DC Kits 3D unit. Finishing this unit has reminded me how good these kits are. They look like what they are supposed to be with the basic build but with a bit of work they can be elevated to a really good standard. Looking forward to doing the underframe tomorrow.

 

Cheers for now, Ian

[KeithHC]

Are you going to do a thread on the 3D as well. I have a part built one but its a bit hamfisted. 

 

Keith

[5Bel]

Hi Keith,

 

The 3D will make an appearance, can't decide whether to do that or finish a 7mm Springside Manor as the next project.

 

Cheers for now, Ian

[5Bel]

Hi All,

 

The underframe on the DTS has been finished today, again cobbled together from various bits of plastic and wire. The V hanger is the only piece of DC Kits detailing fret to be used.

 

 

 

Just waiting on the wheels so I can complete the bogies which I detailed today, then it's ready for painting. That's three projects got up to the painting stage in just over a week. This lock down has it's benefits for us railway modellers, I haven't sat down and modelled properly for years. I think next week will be back to 7mm and a Springside Manor which has been abandoned due to lack of interest!! 

 

Cheers for now, Ian

 

[5Bel]

Hi All,

 

The model is now ready for the spray can. The bogie wheels arrived today courtesy of very quick service from Peters Spares. I will be settling on their 14mm coach wheels as standard from now on as they are an excellent product. 

 

 

 

 

The top two pics show my modifications to the Replica BR1 bogie into a representation of the real thing. It would be nice if someone did these bogies either as sides or a full kit. Painting will be later this week as I have to take advantage of the good weather and go gardening this afternoon!

 

Cheers for now, Ian.

[TRAILRAGE]

Hello 5BEL

 

Found these on the Bay of E  Not exactly Bargain price but should do the Job.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-BR-STANDARD-MK1-TRAILING-BOGIE-COMPLETE-ELECTRIC-PAIR/233286094283?hash=item3650ef4dcb:g:14kAAOSwW8ZdKNAf

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-BR-CLASS-416-2-EPB-EMU-DRIVING-CAR-BLACK-UNPOWERED-BOGIE-ONLY-No-1/133361279581?hash=item1f0cf3a25d:g:iWkAAOSwOWtebVVH

 

 

 

Cheers Trailrage

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[dasatcopthorne]

I bought some of Bachmann's SR EMU bogies from the ex-East Kent Models stand at the last Ally Pally.

 

They call themselves something like EKMS. Probably in last years Stands listing.

 

Like these.

 

Dave

 

[5Bel]

Hi All, 

 

Trailrage, Dave thanks for the info. Would be nice if these bogies were more widely available but Bachmann spares seem to be pretty thin on the ground. I’m still gardening so modelling on hold for the moment!!

 

Cheers for now, Ian

[5Bel]

Hi All,

 

While the various projects have been getting their coat of primer I started yet another DC Kits revamp. I have had this Derby lightweight for years but never got round to finishing it. A cheap purchase of a Hornby class 110 driving car on ebay kick started this conversion into Test Coach Iris. The Hornby glazing is going to be reused as it fits perfectly.  I have rewheeled the motor bogie with Hornby 3 hole disc wheels and the trailing bogie has been fitted with Jackson 12mm wheels and pick ups fitted. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's coming along nicely but has given way to a 7mm Springside Manor.

 

 

This started as a Loco that I was selling on behalf of someone else but it fell apart during postage to it's new owner! I took the loco as payment for a repaint I did for the original owner and once I got it back I stripped the black paint off it and it promptly fell apart. Some of the bits were missing and the brake shoes being plastic melted in the solvent! I managed to get the instructions from Springside and the rebuild began a couple of months ago. The chassis runs well and progress is good. With a bit of luck it will be done by the end of next week. Then it will be back to the 4mm stuff.

 

Cheers for now, Ian.

 

[5Bel]

Hi All,

 

With my lockdown coming to an end, I go back to work on the 26th May, I thought I would post an update on my modelling progress over the last couple of months.

The Manor is now finished, hopefully it won' fall apart this time! Its been painted with Humbrol Standard Loco Green (172) that I have had for years in my drawer. The black is Precision and the bufferbeams are Post office Red. Transfers are from Fox and  I'm really pleased with the outcome.

 

 

 

Next up are nine Dapol MGR hoppers that I have weathered for a friend. I get a bit twitchy weathering stock for other people as it can be quite a personal thing. I have also done one with a dummy load. The 'coal' is shot blasting grit that I have had in my loft since 2000. Never throw anything away! I have enough for about a 1000 wagons!!

 

 

I have also finished my 2Hap made from Replica parts. This was a repaint from green and in certain light you can still see the small warning panel. It has been glazed with the excellent Shawplan Laserglaze. Transfers are a mix of Replica, NMS and Railtec. Again I'm really happy with the result. This one is unpowered and will run coupled to my other 2Hap.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just got this little lot to finish now.

 

Hopefully I can get more flush glazing from Replica as the 4Epb needs it and also the 3D mentioned earlier. I've also become a little obsessed with the Railways around Manchester. My daughter lives 75 yards away from Deansgate Lane crossing on the old Altrincham line and it's sparked an interest in the surrounding area. I have acquired a couple of Lima 40's, a class 104 dmu and a couple of 25's. What I really want to model though is the class 304 Emu both standard and the one with the big windows. I managed to get hold of a couple of cab fronts from Mr Petty at DC kits and have started to graft them onto Replica MLV ends.

 

 

So far so good. I think I'm going to have to get a couple more ends while they are still available.

A bit of a long update but once I get modelling at the moment there isn't much time for the computer!!

 

Cheers for now, stay safe, Ian

[5Bel]

Hi All,

 

The 304 end is coming along nicely. It's now in light undercoat awaiting the rest of the train!!

 

 

The headcode box and roof dome were carved from the top front section of the MLV cab. I'll post a step by step if anyone wants to see how I did it.

 

 

Complete with it's first coat of primer. I am really pleased with the result. I never saw any in real life but I'm finding modelling something I'm not familiar with is quite refreshing. I also won a Hornby Dublo Chlorine tank on Ebay today to boost my North West collection.

 

Stay safe, Ian. 

[5Bel]

Hi All,

 

The Tyneside 2Epb is now finished bar the interior. It's been a long time in the making, so I think I got my moneysworth out of the £20 I handed to Mr Petty all those years ago. The glazing is Replica and is a perfect fit for the DC kits body. 

 

 

 

 

Comparison between the brake ends of the Epb and the Hap. Who says all SR EMU's look the same!!

 

 

Again this has been an enjoyable project over the lockdown period. Another one ticked off of the multitude in the loft. The 4Epb will be next, though I have just started to chop up a Lima 08 shunter body to try and get it to better proportions. I quite like a challenge.

 

Cheers for now, Ian

[Geep7]

That's a super job on the 2-Hap, well done.

 

Good hint with the Replica glazing too, I have some hanging around, so i'll probably use them for my DCK 2-Hap as well.

[5Bel]

Hi Chris,

 

Thanks for the comment. The Replica glazing will need to be fitted individually to the windows of the DC Kits model. There is a bit of cutting of the glazing to do but the end result is well worth it. I'm glad my next EMU will be the Replica based 4Epb which the glazing will slot straight into!! I'm spending the next two days making coal loads for the 7mm MGR hoppers, much less stress than EMU windows and commode handles!!

 

Cheers for now, Ian 

[TRAILRAGE]

5Bel that looks amazing. If I ever get to my "round to it" conversion and it comes out like this I would be one happy bunny! Thank you for sharing your hard work.

 

Cheers Trailrage

[5Bel]

Hi All,

 

With the second lockdown and and temporary accommodation due to my house being rebuilt I haven't had much time for modelling. In the last couple of weeks however I have set up a desk in front of a nice big window and finally got on with a few projects. First up to get myself back into things gently was a BR standard van.

 

 

This is a Dapol body on a Parkside chassis with ABS buffers. It is painted with Humbrol Satin 133 for the body and Railmatch underframe dirt on the chassis. It has Modelmaster transfers and is weathered with underframe dirt simply brushed on and wiped off. Metalcote gunmetal was then applied to hinges etc. For me the Dapol body captures the look of the real thing better than any other and when married to the Parkside chassis gives an excellent representation of a mundane everyday prototype.

 

Next is a Ratio Southern Van B

 

 

I got this kit for £7.50 on Ebay and have decided to do something a little bit different with it. As you can see I have modified the body so it now has a representation of plywood doors. It also runs on Phoenix SR  bogies from which I have removed the footboards. The only other thing I did was to add the pipe that runs along the solebar. 

 

 

I managed to get another one of the same site that had been assembled but because it had been constucted with superglue it lent itself to a complete rebuild. This one will be built as normal, with the exception of removing the guards periscope. This one seems to be self coloured plastic and I'm wondering whether it is a modern one released under the Peco/Parkside banner. They will both be finished in dirty Rail Blue. Does anyone know if there are any transfers available for blue era Southern Utility vans? I have trawled the usual suspects but to no avail.

 

Lastly for now,

 

Continuing my obsession with U type Pullmans and just in time for Hornby to announce them for next year is this cut and shut of two Wrenn Aries bodies into a Kitchen Parlour Car. It was quite an easy and enjoyable process using the drawing published in the June 2011 Railway Modeller as a guide. I have two more Aries bodies picked up for fiver each ready to produce some more but as all my books are in storage for the house rebuilding it will have to wait. It will get Gresley Heavy duty bogies and Hornby Dublo in their wisdom have placed the bogie pivot holes in the correct position! I'm not sure yet what colour to paint it, Blue/Grey in either form would fit in with some of my other models but I quite like the thought of a rake in  Umber and Cream with a nice Blue Merchant Navy or Shiny green Britannia at it's head. I'm going to be in my Bijou RAF quarter until at least May so will hopefully get a lot of small projects completed. The only bonus of the RAF quarter is I get to watch the Typhoons take of every day while I'm on shift work. When I'm at work I'm buried in a hangar working on kit that keeps them in the air.

 

Cheers for now, Ian.

[cheesysmith]

Can you show us more on the 304 cab roof? I need to make some for different EMUs I will build. After all, I do blame you and Clive for getting me into the replica chop shop club. Building these EMUs from replica parts is addictive.

[5Bel]

Cheesysmith,

 

The class 304 ends are something I’ve taken with me to my temporary house so there’s a good chance I will finish the other end. I will post pics of the progress. I just need to work out how I did it!!

 

Cheers for now, Ian

[5Bel]

Hi All, 

 

Here is a step by step of how I turned the Replica SR Emu end into the LMR/ER version.

 

 

The first job is to cut the cab front off. I just follow the the moulding inside the cab up to cantrail height then cut the roof just behind the square indentation on the body above the side window. (Sorry, don't know what it is) The cuts are then joined up along the cantrail to remove the front.

 

 

The roof section is then cut off, also at cantrail height.

 

The remaining cab section is then marked and cut to take the DC Kits front end. I also cut out and made a surround for the destination box.

 

 

 

Then an infill is placed to help recreate the sloping window. 

 

A piece of 1mm thick plastic sheet is cut and placed at cantrail level so as to follow the contours of the new cab front.

 

Using the front corner of the cab as a guide the roof section is cut to length and reduced in height to match the existing roof.

 

 

To make the headcode box and roof dome I used the cab front profile as a guide for the saw cuts. Go at about 45 degrees with the saw, there is plenty of plastic there to shape the dome.

 

 

I used a knife with a sharp blade, files and micromesh paper to get the shape. Go gently and there shouldn't be a problem. I used photos as a guide to get the correct profile.

 

The dome section was then glued to the main body with superglue and also the joints filled, again with superglue. This gives a strong joint and also acts as a filler.

 

 

After smoothing down the last thing to do was add the headcode box surrounds and window pillars from plastic strip.

 

 

 

Buffers and buckeyes are from MJT, rubbing plates are DC Kits.

 

I have enjoyed making the cab ends, I just need to get in touch with Replica to get some suburban bodies to make the rest of the unit! 

 

Cheers for now, Ian

[5Bel]

Hi All,

 

I hope you all had a good Christmas. I have been busy over the festive season with some wagons based on Airfix/Dapol bodies and Parkside chassis. Three are 5 plank opens and the other three are the standard BR van.

 

 

This one is on the standard BR 10ft chassis built as per the instructions.

 

 

This one uses the LMS type 10ft chassis to give a bit of variety.

 

 

Lastly, this one uses the solebars that you get with the LMS chassis with brake gear cobbled from an old Airfix RTR chassis. Axle boxes were replaced with Wizard roller bearing boxes. This one has been finished as one used in the Clayliner Pool. All three have been painted with a sub base of various Bauxite colours on each plank then a coat of underframe dirt blends all the individual planks together. Matt white was used on the clay wagon, painted on and wiped off for the body and dry brushed for the chassis. Please excuse the close up photos they look better from normal distance.

 

Next are three standard 12t vans from Dapol, again using kit built chassis.

 

This one is the standard 10ft chassis from Parkside.

 

 

This one sits on a Parkside air braked chassis for there VEA kit, it has had it's doors scraped flat to represent  the ply doors fitted to all the Air brake box vans that I have seen photos for. It awaits Oleo buffers from Lanarkshire models.

 

 

Lastly a Ply sided van on the Red Panda chassis. I need to remove the destination board from the side to complete the conversion.

 

I think these old wagon bodies capture the look of the prototypes pretty well. They can be had pretty cheaply, the open wagons cost me a fiver for all three bodies and the box vans were obtained from the Dapol factory in Llangollen many years ago very cheaply. Married to a Parkside chassis you get a good looking, cheap and unique (to you) wagon. I'm always on the lookout for the box vans and will be again once we can get back out to exhibitions and shops once more.

 

Cheers and stay safe, Ian.

 

 

 

[5Bel]

Hi All and Happy New Year,

 

Today I completed a couple of open wagon kits that I started some time ago that have been sitting in the needs finishing box. Happy with the results with the clayliner both have been finished as such.

 

 

This is the Parkside BR 13t open kit built as standard but without the tarpaulin bar. The usual mix of different coloured planks and just dry brushed for the weathering. This makes for a quite clean appearance and contrasts the others quite well.

 

 

This one is a Cambrain kit, modified by the fitting of Wizard axleboxes. It's been given a heavier coat of grime using the paint on wipe off method.

 

 

I now have three clayliners, all different. For the moment I am modelling them as empties as I haven't worked out how to model the tarpaulin sheet effectively. I have read somewhere that when these empties returned to the West Country the sheets were just folded up and put in the wagon. Does anyone know if this is the case or were they put in a box van for the return journey?  

 

Cheers and stay safe, Ian

[hmrspaul]

2 hours ago, 5Bel said:

 

 

I have read somewhere that when these empties returned to the West Country the sheets were just folded up and put in the wagon. Does anyone know if this is the case or were they put in a box van for the return journey?  

 

Cheers and stay safe, Ian

I believe this shows a folded sheet in the lower left corner https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brclayliner/e103e5831

Paul

[5Bel]

Hi Paul,

 

Thanks very much. I’ve looked at that photo to get an idea of what the inside of the wagons look like but never noticed the cover! I was thinking I might be able to disguise some lead sheet as the folded cover to add weight to the model. Thanks again.

 

Cheers and stay safe, Ian. 

[5Bel]

Hi All,

 

In addition to the normal 5 plank open wagons I have made this 5 plank drop side wagon. It is the Your Model Railway wagon on the Parkside 10ft chassis. The body was modified by adding some plastic strip to the bottom plank then sanding this down to an angle. Brackets on the chassis were made from brass strip and loops from a Mainly Trains added. The buffers are from Lanarkshire. 

 

 

 

I'm quite happy how it has turned out. It has Peters Spares wheels which I thought looked to big until I painted them. 

 

Also last week I purchased this off ebay.

 

It is a DJH A3, complete apart from motor and part built, all for £65! If anyone has a recommendation for a motor/gearbox to power I'd be glad to hear it. I'm looking forward to building it when I get back into my rebuilt house!

 

Cheers and stay stafe, Ian

[5Bel]

Hi All,

 

Latest off the wagon production line have been six box vans of various types.

 

First is a Dapol Ply sided van on the Red Panda clasp braked chassis. About as basic as it gets for a re-chassis job.

 

 

Next is a Parkside Palvan with an airbraked chassis from their VEA. 

 

  

Staying with the Air Braked theme we have a Dapol planked body riding on another VEA chassis. The body has had it's doors scraped smooth and the buffers are from Lanarkshire Model supplies. I realised after finishing the two air braked wagons that I have got the hand brake lever wrong but it's too late to change them now.

 

 

Another Dapol/Parkside combination with the rainstrips altered.

 

 

This one is a Dapol body on a Bachmann chassis from one of their plywood standard vans.THis one has been modelled fresh from the shops. The Bachmann body is quite a bit shorter than the Dapol one and stood out like a sore thumb when placed next to Parkside and Dapol ones so I used the chassis and may use the body as a scenic feature.

 

 

Lastly is a Parkside Vanwide fitted with roller bearing axleboxes.  This one has etched W irons and brake gear.

 

All of the transfers are from a Modelmaster sheet suitably cut up in some instances. All the vans are painted with Humbrol 133 as the basic colour then the iron work and ends on some touched in with Humbrol 160. This gives a nice contrast on the heavier weathered examples. Wheels are a combination of Gibson and Romford but I think I'm going to start using Peters Spares wheels in future, they add some nice weight and look good once painted. I only have one more Dapol body left to re-chassis so I'm going to have a look at the Dapol ex Hornby Dublo van and see how that shapes up. It has a different end to the pure Dapol ones so will add some more variety. I have already mounted a couple of Hornby Dublo Banana vans on Red Panda underframes and they look pretty good. The next wagons will be a couple of Lowfits and I'm going to see what I can do with the old Trix 16T mineral wagon. At first glance it looks pretty close.

 

Cheers and stay safe,

Ian