class37418stag Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 hello everyone class 33 haul coaches or freight? to north from south wales by what livery of blue or dutch or sub sector and class 33 running light or any haul to back south to south wales or anywhere please give any comments or photos thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supaned Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 http://www.derbysulzers.com/crewecardiff.html should provide some useful info, basically from 1981-1986 they saw regular use on the Marches line to Cardiff. Following that date , only occasional visits with railtours etc. In their last days of service with EWS , they were used to transfer Wessex Electric units to and from Crewe Works for Refurbishment , so some liveries other than BR blue would have been seen (certainly Dutch colours) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium southern42 Posted January 17, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 17, 2014 Cardiff - Crewe http://www.petertandy.co.uk/class33.htm Extended into North Wales http://www.6g.nwrail.org.uk/class33inwales.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Is this the sort of thing you mean? Blue Class 33 at Crewe in 1981 on a Cardiff service: 33021 Crewe 13.6.81 by Paul Bettany, on Flickr If so, there are more images here: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=%22class%2033%22%20crewe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Is this the sort of thing you mean? Blue Class 33 at Crewe in 1984/85 on a Cardiff service: 33021 Crewe 13.6.81 by Paul Bettany, on Flickr If so, there are more images here: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=%22class%2033%22%20crewe Doesn't the filename date the pic to 1981? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Doesn't the filename date the pic to 1981? Yep, changed the picture before posting and forgot to change the info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Rail blue 33031 at Crewe in May 1986. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 think they also made it all the way to manchester on occasion along with class 37s on the Cardiff trains can remember helping run one around using the ground frame on platform five at Piccadilly on more than one occasion would be pre november 89 when i left for signaling school Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Another 33 at Crewe on a Cardiff service http://www.flickr.com/photos/sirbrianrobertson/2684423063/in/set-72157603840450531 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
(The) Youth Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Hi all If its Cardiff - Crewe and beyond workings with class 33 Traction then this flickr site is pretty much the best around http://www.flickr.com/photos/47500cdb/sets/72157630132968608/ There is also a few here http://www.flickr.com/photos/railhereford/sets/72157632885841929/ and here http://www.flickr.com/photos/railhereford/sets/72157632885841929/ HTH Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Summer 1986 had the following nominally booked for Class 33s 0612 Cardiff C. - Crewe 1116 Crewe - Holyhead and 1408 back to Cardiff but suspect that went via Wrexham 0750 SX Swansea - Man P 1345 SX Man P - Cardiff C 1815 SX Cardiff C - Crewe 0620 Crewe - Cardiff C 1340/1405 SUN Crewe - Cardiff C 1858/ 1900 SUN Cardiff C - Crewe 1435 SUN Swansea- Man P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Any 33 + Mk1 photos where the loco has an 89 headcode are most likely to be Cardiff - Portsmouth services. Presumably, the Crewe/Manchester trains would have the blinds turned to two white rectangles? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pogarra Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 33025 Sultan Crewe 5th March 1983 http://www.flickr.com/photos/35138806@N08/4812724531/in/set-72157624990531162 33028 Bangor 170685 http://www.flickr.com/photos/35138806@N08/4812726575/in/set-72157624990531162 33046 failed at Chester 150685 http://www.flickr.com/photos/35138806@N08/4813351010/in/set-72157624990531162 I have a pic somewhere of 33052 Ashford at Manchester Piccadilly I seem to remember that all the members of the 33/0 class & most of the rest appeared on the Cardiff - Crewe roster cheers P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince minto Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 and a few of mine 33013 crewe 22-10-83 33018 shrewsbury 26-2-83 33028 crewe 15-5-82 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Waterloo men used to work a tank train to Crewe using 33s in the 1970's. A 33 and TC reportedly arrived at New Street one day. the platform supervisor went potty as there's no run round. the driver simply got out, changed ends and went the other way again! something not seen on the LM at that time!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Any 33 + Mk1 photos where the loco has an 89 headcode are most likely to be Cardiff - Portsmouth services. Presumably, the Crewe/Manchester trains would have the blinds turned to two white rectangles? Theoretically I suppose, but that photo of 33028 in post 14 shows an '89' headcode at Crewe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Miles Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 From memory the 33s on this service hauled 6 Mark 1s. Some finished a Crewe in a bay platform, others went on to Manchester. They were also being used on the Cardiff Portsmouth harbour trains and so I presume this is how they came to be working north from Cardiff. I used to have an office which overlooked the Taff Vale line just north of Queen Street and I once saw a 33 on an up passenger train - obviously a special but I don't know what the occasion was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Worked on the Cardiff-Crew' services with 33's from 1985 until the 37/4's took over in. The 33's where much better performance wise than the 37's. Used to mainly get them on passenger services but a few did work the odd freight service. 33/0 & 33/2 were the most common performers as they were the ones most of the Hereford drivers where passed out on, 33/1's were slightly different on operating procedures and you had to be specifically passed out on them which was usually luck of the draw as to whether you came across one during your weeks training on the class. Most of the Crewe-Cardiff services were load 5/6 but I have worked the Cardiff-Crewe TPO with one which could load 12 back from Crewe. Usual practice was to wind up white blanks in the headcode but if I had time I would put HF up, if you could get it to work. One of the Hereford drivers used to put GB up as they were his initials. They were pretty reliable workhorses. I only ever got into trouble with a 33 once. Setting out from Hereford for Crewe one day I got to Moreton-on-Lugg and the engine shut down with the engine overspeed tripped. Once reset and engine restarted off we go again for it to stop again just before Leominster. One advantage with a 33 was the exhauster would still run even with the engine stopped. So coasted to Leominster, a booked stop, reset the overspeed, started the engine and off we go again only for the engine to shut down again approaching Wooferton. I was getting wise now to this so reverser to EO, the days when you could still do it on the move, back into the engine room reset the overspeed and restart the engine. Although the exhausers ran as long as the reverser was in direction and stopped with it in EO, it was only a few seconds to reset the overspeed so I still kept rolling until I got the engine restarted. Now wise to the locos antics I nursed it to Shrewsbury on half power and got assistance in the form of a 25, leaving the 33 running to provide train heat. The last one I ever drove on the North & West to Crewe was 33053 in Triple Grey Construction Livery in multiple with 37068 in Speedlink. A couple of photos of this are below. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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