RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted November 24, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2017 Have a great weekend everyone. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted November 27, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2017 Ooh err, the lads won a trophy at Warley......more later Baz 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted November 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2017 Ooh err, the lads won a trophy at Warley......more later Baz And so you should. A great layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Well done winning the trophy and to see the layout it really looks brilliant particularily thought the track was well done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Having had to ask directions to the layout yesterday at Warley - thanks, Barry - I arrived just as the Fell flailed its way through the station. Even I am too young to have seen the prototype and the sight was impressive. So, for that matter, was the layout! Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted November 28, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 28, 2017 Glad you enjoyed the layout Chris. Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted November 28, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 28, 2017 Having had to ask directions to the layout yesterday at Warley - thanks, Barry - I arrived just as the Fell flailed its way through the station. Even I am too young to have seen the prototype and the sight was impressive. So, for that matter, was the layout! Chris It does look a bit busy going quickly, the drivers are only 4'3" diameter - anyone know what its maximum speed was? It must have been fairly quick given what it was working on, we had it on a stopper through Chapel this time but there are plenty of photos of it on expresses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave47549 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) . Edited October 4, 2021 by Dave47549 Removed pointless guff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 It does look a bit busy going quickly, the drivers are only 4'3" diameter - anyone know what its maximum speed was? It must have been fairly quick given what it was working on, we had it on a stopper through Chapel this time but there are plenty of photos of it on expresses. Morning Mike, I was telling Barry that, when I started work on the railway at the Derby Tech Centre 30 years ago, I spent some time with a Derby loco old boy who had been involved with some testing of the Fell. He described the day that they took a test train over the Peak route and he had a 'brown underpants' moment as they shot out of the tunnel at Monsall Head and over the viaduct at an extremely lively speed. The thing lurched and swayed around alarmingly at such a speed and he thought they were going to end up in the river. It was, apparently, always a bit top heavy with the fifth, auxiliary engine, mounted high up in the centre. He reckoned the speed was 80+ but I cannot vouch for the authenticity of that. Perhaps it was more in the 60-70 range (which seems more likely to me), it probably just seemed higher! Even at the more modest speed, that's certainly shifting up that gradient. Clearly a powerful thing if not a particularly well-balanced one! Congratulations to the team on the award at the show, just recognition for all the midnight oil spent in recent months. The layout looked great. I hope the hoppers behaved themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 My good friend Jim Davenport took several pictures of the 'Fell' up in the Peaks so despite being not keen on diesels at the time, he must have considered it worthwhile going up there from him home ground in Oldham to photograph it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold innocentman Posted November 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) Morning Mike, I was telling Barry that, when I started work on the railway at the Derby Tech Centre 30 years ago, I spent some time with a Derby loco old boy who had been involved with some testing of the Fell. He described the day that they took a test train over the Peak route and he had a 'brown underpants' moment as they shot out of the tunnel at Monsall Head and over the viaduct at an extremely lively speed. The thing lurched and swayed around alarmingly at such a speed and he thought they were going to end up in the river. It was, apparently, always a bit top heavy with the fifth, auxiliary engine, mounted high up in the centre. He reckoned the speed was 80+ but I cannot vouch for the authenticity of that. Perhaps it was more in the 60-70 range (which seems more likely to me), it probably just seemed higher! Even at the more modest speed, that's certainly shifting up that gradient. Clearly a powerful thing if not a particularly well-balanced one! Congratulations to the team on the award at the show, just recognition for all the midnight oil spent in recent months. The layout looked great. I hope the hoppers behaved themselves. Thanks. I wonder if there is any video of the Fell at speed, must have looked like a Whirling Dervish at high speed. Wouldn't like to be on a platform when it went through with all that metal flying round! Your hoppers where impeccably behaved, the only difficulty was coupling a three link onto the back of a DG coupling. There were a lot of admirers of your hoppers. Once again, thanks for the loan in the absence of the Hatton's hoppers Andy Edited November 28, 2017 by innocentman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted November 28, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 28, 2017 84mph, according to the D+EG Locomotive Directory! I think the model will manage that - I'll have to time it on Herculaneum, although the speed limit there was 60mph. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted November 28, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 28, 2017 Morning Mike, I was telling Barry that, when I started work on the railway at the Derby Tech Centre 30 years ago, I spent some time with a Derby loco old boy who had been involved with some testing of the Fell. He described the day that they took a test train over the Peak route and he had a 'brown underpants' moment as they shot out of the tunnel at Monsall Head and over the viaduct at an extremely lively speed. The thing lurched and swayed around alarmingly at such a speed and he thought they were going to end up in the river. It was, apparently, always a bit top heavy with the fifth, auxiliary engine, mounted high up in the centre. He reckoned the speed was 80+ but I cannot vouch for the authenticity of that. Perhaps it was more in the 60-70 range (which seems more likely to me), it probably just seemed higher! Even at the more modest speed, that's certainly shifting up that gradient. Clearly a powerful thing if not a particularly well-balanced one! Congratulations to the team on the award at the show, just recognition for all the midnight oil spent in recent months. The layout looked great. I hope the hoppers behaved themselves. Two "auxiliary" engines actually. They were mounted high up but their weight (DMU 150hp engines) was trivial compared with the gearbox and four main engines. The two 150hp ones were just to power the superchargers (not turbochargers) for the Paxman main engines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Your hoppers where impeccably behaved, the only difficulty was coupling a three link onto the back of a DG coupling. There were a lot of admirers of your hoppers. Once again, thanks for the loan in the absence of the Hatton's hoppers Andy Goodo! Feel free to do anything to them you need to keep them going in the meantime; I'm unlikely to have any further use for them other than 'old time's sake'. It's nice to know they're getting some further use on such an appropriate (and excellent) layout. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted November 28, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 28, 2017 Ooh err, the lads won a trophy at Warley......more later Baz Come on, now we've seen Rossi's email it's time to reveal all to the rest of the world... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted November 28, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 28, 2017 OK so The layout won the Bachmann Trophy at Warley for best 4mm layout. Well done the Chapel en le Frith team! The beers are on the Chairman..... Baz 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I can still remember the weird (Whirling Dervish did someone say?)sound of the Fell crossing New Mills viaduct while at school. I had a small claim to fame in this machine which had already featured as a centre-spread cut away in the Eagle (Dan Dare & the Treens)comic - along with other notable British post war technical successes such as the Bristol Brabazon, the Saunders Roe Princess Flying boats and the BRM! My dad was the sponsorship link between Shell Mex & BP Ltd, Colonel Fell and BR Derby and used to take the Colonel around on lecture dates in his salesman rep's Hillman Minx. Lord Rootes had something to do with it too I remember - he lived just outside Baslow on the A623. Were some of the Fell engines Rootes Group Commers? It is uncanny seeing Chapel's (town) station re-created. Congratulations! dh 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted November 30, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 30, 2017 OK so The layout won the Bachmann Trophy at Warley for best 4mm layout. Well done the Chapel en le Frith team! The beers are on the Chairman..... Baz It must have been the Hartford Junction PW hut wot clinched it... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted December 16, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2017 All being well we are putting the layout up in the club rooms today as we have some improvements to do. Hopefully this will mean not only less chance of coaches catching as they go round the ends of the layout but also we should have a bit more storage space in the fiddle yard. Baz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Kick back sidings in the fiddleyard? On Wharfeside I find them very useful and easy to use for the shorter trains especially now they have the point motors fitted. DaveFranks 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted December 16, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) yep we can get three kick back each way and another one each way using the "spare" points fitted at the end of the fiddle yard which only have 2 tracks leaving the fiddle yard Edited December 16, 2017 by Barry O 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted December 16, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2017 yep we van get three kick back each way and another one each way using the "spare" points fitted at the end of the fiddle yard which only have 2 tracks leaving thr fiddle yard The railbus won't take up much room... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted December 18, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 18, 2017 The railbus won't take up much room... We are already using a Cravens parcel car along with a GRCW parcels car...a Derby single lightweight is available but never visited Chapel.....or did It? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
seahorse Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Single railcars were used on the Buxton-Milers Dale shuttle, so you could run one as empty stock non-stop. ps is there a shortage of Hyphens in Leeds? Here are some spares for Chapel-en-le-Frith - - - - - - - - - - - - 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold innocentman Posted January 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) Just been down the club room this afternoon to lay new track on the fiddle yard link board at the London end of the layout, New track required after we replaced a dodgy plywood top on the board. More waves in it than Fistral beach! It was that cold, my phone went flat at the end of the day and went flat before I could take a picture of the finished article Oh well, I will try again on Wednesday Edited January 13, 2018 by innocentman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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