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1 hour ago, locoholic said:

Does the strengthening of the Dawlish Sea Wall mean that train passengers will no longer be able to see the sea properly?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-48472901

 

No.

 

The length of work is between Dawlish Station and Kennaway tunnel ONLY. About 1/3rd of a mile. For this length it is possible the sea will still be visible, but not the beach. The  remainder of the sea wall is unaffected.

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Expensive and arguably ugly lifts rather than a simple ramped access to the down side (up side is already ramped access or could easily become so).  Either a planning issue or a fixed-in-concrete mindset.  Ramps don'g go out of service and need a fitter to fix them either.

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Cue nimby responses!!!

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7 hours ago, Dagworth said:

I note they will 'remove pigeon roosts' from under the down platform. That will definitely get rid of a lot of mess.

I have not walked along there for about 18 months, and when this current lock down is lifted I will enjoy a day out along the wall.

 

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Of note, it's also been pointed out on another forum that, Hidden as the last item on the consultation is demolition of the Coastguard’s Boathouse which is said to have been designed by Brunel himself. Though the boathouse is not listed, it is a positive building in the Conservation Area. 

 

Personally I'm not a fan of these new designs. While I can accept that something does need to be done about the sea & sea wall though the area, this does seem to include some rather over the top features. The bridge I feel is out of keeping with the station and surprisingly, for a place concerned about the weather, is open to the elements.  I'm not impressed by the height of the new "promenade" either. 

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On 22/05/2020 at 10:56, Gwiwer said:

Expensive and arguably ugly lifts rather than a simple ramped access to the down side (up side is already ramped access or could easily become so).  Either a planning issue or a fixed-in-concrete mindset.  Ramps don'g go out of service and need a fitter to fix them either.

 

Ramps have the problem of space required, so it may be a case of them not being viable, though only NR would know the reasoning.

 

17 hours ago, surfsup said:

Personally I'm not a fan of these new designs. While I can accept that something does need to be done about the sea & sea wall though the area, this does seem to include some rather over the top features. The bridge I feel is out of keeping with the station and surprisingly, for a place concerned about the weather, is open to the elements.  I'm not impressed by the height of the new "promenade" either. 

 

I agree that at least the computer image shows an open to the weather bridge which would seem to be ill advised - I could see disability groups / individuals filing court cases over the issue.

 

And while not necessarily a fan of the new promenade, I also acknowledge that I am (currently) an able bodied adult with no young children.  Extending the promenade to be effectively a single level with a comfortable width(*) for the entire length of the Dawlish area will I suspect in hindsight be viewed as a positive for Dawlish tourism as it makes using it that much more attractive not just to the disabled but to families with young kids.

 

But as Devon changes, and commuting to Exeter for jobs (hence the Devon Metro concept) becomes ever more a reality, the "quaint" images of the sea soaking the down side become more of an issue of being unacceptable.

 

* - and it may even be wide enough to allow proper social distancing if still required when finished, or again in the future at some point

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8 minutes ago, mdvle said:

But as Devon changes, and commuting to Exeter for jobs (hence the Devon Metro concept) becomes ever more a reality, the "quaint" images of the sea soaking the down side become more of an issue of being unacceptable.

 

For those who live and work here this is much needed, whilst I agree it may be enjoyable for visitors ( and locals ) to admire it can make a vast difference between remaining quaint or moving into the future.

 

We can all live in the past and dream but the reality of it strikes home  when the line is closed due to bad weather and local commuters need to get to work. This can disrupt many of the local services which also leave commuters stranded or having to rearrange their day and become frustrated.

 

It is one of the most scenic railway journeys in the country, long may it continue to be so especially when going to or returning home in the knowledge that it will be possible in the future due to these proposals.

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