keefer 2,328 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 I thought it must've been a relatively recent thing but here she is, looking very scabby, in 1978 and the fitting is present. Unless they were fitted with the piping etc. in readiness for dual-braking, which for whatever reason, didn't happen By Thomas Harper on Flickr 9 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock 14,277 Posted October 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2020 Presumably given that bogies were a problem area swaps were frequent at works visits. Bogie from DB loco put on VB loco, Pipe would have to be removed to prevent confusion I guess... Link to post Share on other sites
Barclay 1,978 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 40 028 'Samaria' albeit with rusty patches instead of nameplates, stands at Scarborough in August 1983. She had just followed her train to the end of the platform and now waits in the sun for the 03 station pilot to clear the line before completing the run-round. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
RMweb Gold Tim Hall 1,595 Posted October 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) A few from August 1984, mostly on a North West Rover ticket: 40150 Preston. 15/8/84 40082 Man Vic 15/8/84 40009 Preston. 16/8/84 40155 Preston 18/8/84 40194 ? 18/8/84 40118 Arpley 20/8/84 40015 Chester 20/8/84 40013 Chester 20/8/84 40004 Doncaster 23/8/84 40044 Arpley 24/8/84 I've got plenty more from 84-86 if people would like to see them, and a few preserved ones as well. Edited October 29, 2020 by Tim Hall Typo 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites
03060 416 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Hello Tim, probably just a typo but 3rd photo down is 40 009 not 40 099. Thanks for these, please keep them coming, interested to note 40 015 with an air braked scrap wagon behind it, not a combination I would have immediately thought of but one that I’ll keep in mind for my latest 80’s themed ‘Depot with passing mainline’ type cameo. Regards, Ian. Link to post Share on other sites
RMweb Gold Tim Hall 1,595 Posted October 29, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, 03060 said: Hello Tim, probably just a typo but 3rd photo down is 40 009 not 40 099. Thanks for these, please keep them coming, interested to note 40 015 with an air braked scrap wagon behind it, not a combination I would have immediately thought of but one that I’ll keep in mind for my latest 80’s themed ‘Depot with passing mainline’ type cameo. Regards, Ian. Yes, it was just a typo. Thanks, I've corrected it. 009 was a bit of a celeb as the last vac only one. I remember thinking 015s train was odd even then! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ColinK 3,019 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Just finished my model of 40062, one of the odd ones that were converted in Scotland from disc headcodes to centre headcodes with square corners. Its made from a Bachmann split headcode 40. Bear in mind that the frontal view is probably bigger on your screen than the actual model. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Gibbo675 10,945 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Hi Folks, Here is a class 40 detail with a difference: https://www.railexpress.co.uk/1663/class-40-mystery-solved/ Gibbo. Link to post Share on other sites
RMweb Gold Tim Hall 1,595 Posted October 29, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2020 40163. Derby Works. 29/10/83 (37 years ago today!) 40106. Crewe. 17/5/83 40099. Wolverhampton. 27/7/83 40126. Bescot. 28/7/83 40074. York. 28/6/83 40065. Crewe Works. 25/9/83 40145. Crewe Works. 25/9/83 40027. Crewe Works. 25/9/83 40074. Springs Branch. 25/9/83 40122. Norwich. 27/9/83 40192. Man Vic. 23/9/83 40024. Sheffield. 3/3/84 40022. Longsight. 4/3/84 40196. Derby Works. 29/1/84 40003 (a bit). Doncaster Works. 29/1/84 40060. Warrington BQ. 5/3/84 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Covkid 781 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Futher to the debate about 40106 and it's stopped off air brake pipe, 40121 was another of several vaccy 40s that ran on at least one dual brake bogie. 10 Link to post Share on other sites
03060 416 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 A superb photo @Covkid which would make a great subject for a 1st weathering project directly onto a factory finished 'clean' loco...... plus, the assorted Engineer's train with at least 3 different types or shades of ballast in the first 8 wagons. Thanks for posting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ColinK 3,019 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I like the vertical stripes on the side of the loco. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Covkid 781 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 4 hours ago, 03060 said: A superb photo @Covkid which would make a great subject for a 1st weathering project directly onto a factory finished 'clean' loco...... plus, the assorted Engineer's train with at least 3 different types or shades of ballast in the first 8 wagons. Thanks for posting. Apologies. I cannot take any credit for the photo. I merely did a websearch for an image of 40121, then posted the link, not expecting the image to be displayed. The reason I know 40121 was in that condition was because I walked past it at Bescot in the winter of 1981 or 1982 and remember it's red bufferbeams. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Rugd1022 32,849 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Photo by Julius Bannister : green liveried 40 101 at Haymarket in 1974.... 11 Link to post Share on other sites
Southof1E top tmd 1,419 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 40080 whistles through Wolves with a Bescot yard bound oil train on May 25th 1983, a very different scene today..... NR http://www.leightonlogs.org 9 Link to post Share on other sites
Covkid 781 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 21/11/2020 at 20:19, Southof1E top tmd said: 40080 whistles through Wolves with a Bescot yard bound oil train on May 25th 1983, a very different scene today..... NR http://www.leightonlogs.org Great piccie and thanks for sharing. Not sure about Bescot being the destination, unless you know it for sure. I would be guessing it is a Stanlow-Rowley Regis loaded gas oil train, probably turning left and heading for Portobello and Bescot then a climb up Soho with a banker, then via Galton Jn to Rowley. Link to post Share on other sites
montyburns56 10,349 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 D200 York 1986 8 Link to post Share on other sites
Rugd1022 32,849 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 June 1971, 'serif' numbers on blue livery.... Crewe Works, April 1983.... 40 148 (D348!) at Dundee in January 1981, photo by Andy Sales.... 7 Link to post Share on other sites
50A55B 334 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 6 hours ago, Rugd1022 said: June 1971, 'serif' numbers on blue livery.... Crewe Works, April 1983.... Not convinced this is blue, looks like green to me (note the difference to the data panel background). The date is definitely not 1983. Nice shot of a tangerine painted cast shed plate as found on ex NE Region locos in the late 1960s. Link to post Share on other sites
stovepipe 1,619 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 (edited) June 1983 refers to the photo below, not D348..... but yes my records are D348 received blue livery in the week of 27 Oct 1972. Edited March 16 by stovepipe 1 Link to post Share on other sites
rodent279 2,181 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 On 27/10/2020 at 23:14, Phil Bullock said: Presumably given that bogies were a problem area swaps were frequent at works visits. Bogie from DB loco put on VB loco, Pipe would have to be removed to prevent confusion I guess... Is it as simple as that? Can a dual braked bogie be fitted to a vac only loco? Link to post Share on other sites
rodent279 2,181 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Wasn't there a 40 that got fitted with a class 37 nose? Or was it the other way round? Link to post Share on other sites
Covkid 781 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 3 hours ago, rodent279 said: Wasn't there a 40 that got fitted with a class 37 nose? Or was it the other way round? Some tinwork may have been reused but I doubt the whole nose for various reasons. Principally that class 40 nose is shallower because the buffers are fitted to the bogie on the 40 rather than a buffer beam on the 37. Grille layouts are different but both have a traction motor blower. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Covkid 781 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 3 hours ago, rodent279 said: Is it as simple as that? Can a dual braked bogie be fitted to a vac only loco? Yes. It was. You simply stop off the air pipework as it is superfluous. as with 40121 I mentioned back in the thread, the air pipe was effectively "corked" on the buffer beam 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RMweb Gold 08221 659 Posted April 9 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 9 40013 and 40145 passing Rugeley working 0Z57 Barrow Hill - Crewe holding sidings 9/4/21 9 Link to post Share on other sites
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