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Thanks stovepipe - number 346 was written in my 12 year old hand on the back of the photo, but I bow to the 40s specialists!

If it helps, I've rescanned the photo at the max dpi that my scanner will go to and cropped it down, but I'm afraid that last digit is elusive. Doesn't look like 341 though?

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As it is obviously 34<something> it can only be numbered between 340 and 344 (345 upwards had a centre headcode panel) so it must be 340.

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Thanks stovepipe - number 346 was written in my 12 year old hand on the back of the photo, but I bow to the 40s specialists!

If it helps, I've rescanned the photo at the max dpi that my scanner will go to and cropped it down, but I'm afraid that last digit is elusive. Doesn't look like 341 though?

 

D340?

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I am in the throes of making a 7mm model of D202 which worked on the GE. I am using a JLTRT kit which is great. I have reached the stage where I need to paint the cabs. I have some B&W pictures which indicate that the cabs as delivered were white or light grey or white. I cannot tell. Can anyone please give me a definitive answer as to the cab colour?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Martin Long

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I am in the throes of making a 7mm model of D202 which worked on the GE. I am using a JLTRT kit which is great. I have reached the stage where I need to paint the cabs. I have some B&W pictures which indicate that the cabs as delivered were white or light grey or white. I cannot tell. Can anyone please give me a definitive answer as to the cab colour?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Martin Long

 

a thread on the 'old' RMWeb: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=35221&hilit=40+interior suggests cream initially, changing to rail grey (possibly when repainted into blue)

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A question for the 40 experts

 

I have just bought Bachmann 97407.

Now I am probably going to turn this into 40012.

 

I am not a 40 expert and there seem to be so many variations in their detail.

 

If I removed the Aureol name as well as the 97407 numbering. what alternative numbers could I apply?

What other 40s were identical in their detail to 40012?

 

Thanks

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May I add some of my own Type 4/Class 40 shots to the mix? I'm not an expert so don't know if these are unusual in any respect, but here we go..

 

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A 'namer' on Tyneside - D229 Saxonia heads north with what looks like a ballast train (unless someone can suggest a better description?) at Low Fell, Gateshead on 6th July 1968. Named examples were rare in this part of the country at the time. On the left is the remaining part of the station building, which closed in the 1950s

 

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An ex-'namer' on Tyneside - 40035 (formerly Apapa) after arrival with a Liverpool train on 5th August 1975   

 

Trevor

 

 

 

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A question for the 40 experts

 

I have just bought Bachmann 97407.

Now I am probably going to turn this into 40012.

 

I am not a 40 expert and there seem to be so many variations in their detail.

 

If I removed the Aureol name as well as the 97407 numbering. what alternative numbers could I apply?

What other 40s were identical in their detail to 40012?

 

Thanks

In general you could have any Stone boiler fitted disc headcode production loco, so 40010-059, 067-086, 105-124. Within these ranges there are some obvious ones to avoid like 69, and accident damaged ones like 44. Others had various modifications to the nose ends, such as 58, 67, 98, 111 & 116, Some had the boiler isolated with the rectangular exhaust port behind the no. 2 cab blanked off. Others had the inner sandboxes removed, and there was quite a lot of variations in the placement of numbers, arrows, data panels etc. Quite a few acquired unofficial names in the last few years too, though I think only 104 Warrior in your range. Still, there are plenty to chose from!

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In general you could have any Stone boiler fitted disc headcode production loco, so 40010-059, 067-086, 105-124. Within these ranges there are some obvious ones to avoid like 69, and accident damaged ones like 44. Others had various modifications to the nose ends, such as 58, 67, 98, 111 & 116, Some had the boiler isolated with the rectangular exhaust port behind the no. 2 cab blanked off. Others had the inner sandboxes removed, and there was quite a lot of variations in the placement of numbers, arrows, data panels etc. Quite a few acquired unofficial names in the last few years too, though I think only 104 Warrior in your range. Still, there are plenty to chose from!

 

Thank you that is very helpful.

Cheers

Steve

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Looking at the class 40 flickr site link posted above. They list 15 of them without headcode discs

1,9,12,13,33,35,58,70,73,84,85,92,99,101,121

Many thanks 'SouthernBlue'. Definitely not a "one off" then. I assume that the discs were removed around the same time that the alpha-numeric head code displays were being "blanked out"?

 

Regards, Ian.

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Love the white chair in the third photo - anyone brave enough to add one to their model?

 

Regards, Ian.

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