RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted March 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 15, 2021 48 minutes ago, Killybegs said: That explains it. The later set up was fitted from 2856 onwards! I suspect the difference might be to do with the fixings. The middle ones sit on a frame stretcher that goes accross the frames at that point, where as the one on the front is attached on the back of the spasher. In terms of the engine, knowing the group it will be accurate to the engine as it was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Looks to me (much to my surprise) that the one on the second axle is fixed to the splasher top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted March 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Simond said: Looks to me (much to my surprise) that the one on the second axle is fixed to the splasher top. I've got a photo somewhere from when the boiler was out showing it. Sadly at the moment the shed is off limits due to covid as the paid staff are working 5 on 5 off in bubbles so can't go and take some photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 Thanks, any photos of the 'innards' most welcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenW Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I took these of 2857's 'waggly bits' when it first came into service - probably not showing the bits you're interested in, but it does show the lubrication pipes heading down to the axlebox. 7 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 Thanks for those, they will come in useful when I get around to attacking the 'waggly bits'. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Killybegs Posted March 22, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2021 More progress. Pony truck, cylinders and motion. 9 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAB Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 On 16/03/2021 at 14:43, BenW said: I took these of 2857's 'waggly bits' when it first came into service ... One thing is for sure - it will never be that clean again! Great modelling John - thanks for the continuing updates. Cheers, Howard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted March 23, 2021 Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 Made a start on the body today. 10 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Holt Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Coming along nicely, John, and very neat workmanship. Going back to the "handlebar" discussion, I checked the frames of 2807, at work today, and can confirm that they, and the various "goal post" brackets all have large, flat(ish), 4 feed oil pots mounted to their inner faces - presumably to lubricate the axles box and horn guides. Dave. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 I have a question. Does anyone know what the bits circled on the photo of the frame overlays represent? In photos of the prototype they are hidden by the brake hangers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mswjr Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 You can see it here , thou the hornblock , looks like it has a bit hanging from it for the springs 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mswjr Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 just found a better view 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mswjr Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 It looks like it is for the spring hangers, maybe not enough room for the type on the right of the picture, should help thou . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mswjr Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) im on a roll now, just found another, it is near the back on the right , all 2874 by the way Edited March 25, 2021 by mswjr 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richbrummitt Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 I think they are meant to represent the mounting for the spring centre, the ends of which are attached to the horn blocks, and providing some equalisation between adjacent axles. The spring mounting arrangement was different between early and later 28xx. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 52 minutes ago, Killybegs said: I have a question. Does anyone know what the bits circled on the photo of the frame overlays represent? In photos of the prototype they are hidden by the brake hangers. I think they are the pivot points for equalising bars. Duncan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 I’m with Duncan, I’d bet a pound that they’re equalising beam fulcrum points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) Thanks everyone. The consensus is that 'the prototype has a beam compensation between the springs and these are to represent the pivot points of the beam'. Edited March 25, 2021 by Killybegs 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killybegs Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 Thanks for the photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Killybegs Posted March 26, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2021 The etch for the valve gear arrived from Brassmasters this week so, having reached a suitable point to pause on the bodywork (firebox next, I don't mind putting that off for a while), I can get back to finishing off the chassis. Although the etch is for working valve gear, as the eccentrics are not available at the moment and I don't really want the hassle, I shall only be building it cosmetically. Here's the state of play at the moment. 14 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 That is beautifully crisp. very nice. inspirational. I’m going to have to build another loco... 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Killybegs Posted April 1, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2021 Finally managed to get the valve gear finished. It is purely cosmetic and is modified to let the wheelset drop in and out. Having got that out of the way, I fitted the brake hangers (cut down brass lacemakers pins) and frame overlays. Brake gear next but, as we are promised three days of fine weather, that might have to wait. 12 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Killybegs Posted April 7, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2021 The brake gear is now finished so it's time to check that all the various chassis components still go together OK! The brake gear is totally removeable at the moment as the levers are not soldered to the rear cross shaft which is just held in place by friction at the moment. Once the loco is finished, the cross shaft will be fixed and the brake gear will pivot on it if the wheels need to come out ( the hangers are sprung onto the pins). I use sleeves stripped from electrical wire as spacers for the brake hangers. It is a good tight fit on the brass pins. Back to working on the body next. 16 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 John, will you insulate the backs of the brakes? Araldite & fag paper? cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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