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Not much progress recently as I've been distracted resurrecting my box file layout Filton Street Goods (link in signature etc.). However, I got No. 8 out again this evening and cracked on with making a start on the tender. So far, I've built the basic structure including bulkheads out of plasticard, as well as the top of the water tank - as ever it looks better in the flesh. Because the loco is being depicted as being transported, it ought to have an empty coal bunker and this is going to be the next (and possibly most challenging to execute) addition, along with the front of the tender (coal hatch, tool box etc.). I also need to add the slight curvature at the top of the tender body. These I'm aiming to do with microstrip, filed to shape once glued down. The filler cap is obviously temporarily held in place with bluetack at the moment to aid with dimension-checking.

 

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It's all a little rough and I may end up scrapping it all and starting again after the next stage, but in many ways that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing seeing as this is my first attempt at 'proper' scratch building using plastic sheets etc. We'll see...

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I've gotten a little distracted recently... Again... No. 8 is still waiting for me to finish the tender, but in the mean time I have finally got round to building the freelance traction engine shunter based on a Keil Kraft kit I mentioned a while back. "Aion" is a real mis-match of parts: a re-motored Hornby 0-4-0 chassis with an N-20 motor; a Smokey Joe running plate and rear-cab wall (adds weight if nothing else!); the Keil Kraft boiler (hacked around a lot and extended with plastikard when I hacked it around too much!) and other associated m'gubbins from the kit; various etched and cast details; and a plastic tube which came as a protector for a paint brush and is now used as a funnel. I've included a picture of it pre-painting below to give an idea of what all the different bits are!

 

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The paintjob was sort of inspired by the preserved 'Blue Circle' and does look much better when not the subject of a cruel photographic close-up!

 

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I will get back to No.8 soon!

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1 hour ago, AlfaZagato said:

Any thought to a representation of the gearing to the wheels?  Maybe with one of those paper-thin watch gears you can buy bags of from Micro-Mark?

 

I was considering it, but the size of the Hornby 0-4-0 chassis wheelbase means that the cog would have to be absolutely huge, plus there's a couple of protrusions on the chassis which would get in the way. In my head it's chain driven off the cog in the housing on the right-hand footplate - there's sort of a historical precedent as Aveling did make some chain driven locos. It's something I'd absolutely look to do if I had a smaller chassis on which to base the model, as it would be much more feasible.

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Back to Hurricane. I've finished the superstructure of the tender, based on photos, guesswork and the CAD of a 1:48 3D print available on Shapeways (which, incidentally I'm considering buying in the future to make an operational 1:48 scale RH&DR layout). It's not 100% accurate as ever, but I think it looks OK. It's currently resting on the cut-up chassis from the original Flying Scotsman tender chassis to replicate the bogies. These will be glued down when I make a final decision as to whether I'm happy with it! That'll then be followed by the filler cap, faux-gangway, faux look out window etc. I'm unlikely to try and put too much detail into the tender footplate area as the point of this isn't to stress too much over details that will be a proper pain to put in and will be barely noticeable. I might put a tarp over the cab to cover this. 

 

There is a slight camber at the top of the tender, but due to the primer/light it's not really visible in the photos.

 

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I had to guess the bunker layout as I couldn't find any pictures - I think it looks at least plausible, and again the sides are at angles but the light/primer hides this.

 

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I decided I didn't like mk1 tender, it was too wide and whilst I was pretty happy with it in all other senses I knew the width would irritate me. So, I rebuilt it slightly narrower and I'm much much happier - turns out not only was the width wrong but the dangers of using a mix of different period photos shown. I found a couple of photos from the 1950s which clearly show more space on the tender for the crew, no tool chests (or whatever they were) between the crew and the bunker, and the cowling didn't travel as far forward on the tender. These have all been incorporated onto the tender, along with water filler cap, mock corridor connection & look-out, buffers and vacuum pipe. The bogies still need a bit more adjustment to improve the ride height and repair some areas where I removed a tiny bit too much material, plus I need to work out what fittings to put on the tender footplate - I assume a handbrake would be a good start? Then it's onto smoke deflectors and paint and it's just about done

 

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I've had a productive evening! The bogie height has been reduced, a handbrake handle made & installed on the footplate, the loco buffers and vacuum cable have been fitted and everything primed (albeit a very thin coat on one side as the can started to run out.) The loco buffers are a little wonky as I had to modify a set of brass N-gauge auto-coach buffers to get the length right (they were the only ones available with the correct sized oval buffer heads), but from normal viewing distance it isn't really noticeable. I've also made a pair of smoke-deflectors for the loco out of thin plastikard - the photo below shows one attached to the loco temporarily, but they won't be permanently affixed until after painting as the insides are being painted red which won't be possible if they're installed. I'm rather pleased with the results so far and looking forward to painting!

 

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No.8 is nearly done! All physical additions are now complete (apologies for some of the poor picture quality below) and the whole loco has had it's initial paint job - just needs transfers now to complete. The new physical additions are as follows: front end steam chest (or 3rd cylinder box, I'm not sure what it is!), under-tender air tank (or at least again that's what I think it is!), right-side battery box, smoke deflectors permanently attached and nameplates (so small I could get away with just printing on standard paper and it looks pretty decent!).

 

Just need to get transfers on and then all that needs doing is to modify the Rectank it's going to sit on before the model can be declared complete. 

 

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24 minutes ago, BernardTPM said:

Nice little model!

I'll be cheeky and ask if you're going to do the lining ;)

Your blue looks right:

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Thanks! I think the best thing to say is that I'm going to *attempt* the lining! :laugh_mini: I'm having problems getting the Fox lining transfers to stick at the moment so we'll have to see - I'm debating what way to go with the tender lining as I can't find a black and white composite waterslide transfer, but equally I don't know if I'd notice if it was just white

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5 hours ago, Frappington Jct said:

I'm debating what way to go with the tender lining as I can't find a black and white composite waterslide transfer, but equally I don't know if I'd notice if it was just white

 Looking at the photo a light cream might be preferable to white if you go for a single colour.

White/black/white lining was used by the LNER (on Apple Green) and the Caledonian Railway.

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I managed to find a pot of Humbrol Decalfix in a draw and it's solved my adhesion issues. I've been quite busy this week so thus far I've only applied the black boiler bands. I've been grappling with the black and white lining and would appreciate a second opinion in terms of how it looks. I applied a single corner onto the cab and can't decide whether the lining is too thick or not - part of me isn't that keen but looking at BernardTPM's photos I don't think it's too far off? The perils of using items from multiple scales on one build!

 

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I've now completed the lining out of one side of 'Hurricane', and the LNER style lining was definitely the right idea - the black is more obvious in real life. I've based the lining off this photo of No. 8 in 1950 so haven't put anything on the tender/cab cut-out (or what ever you would call it), but then again for the sake of ease I've built it in the slightly later style so might decide to line it as such. We'll see. I do also need to think about what to do about the works plate, as if the lining has highlighted anything it's the large space on the cab side that could do with filling.

 

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