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This thread is for everything that's going on on my workbench related to my North Western Railway/Sudrian Histories project, as well as featuring a few odd freelance locos.


Here's an intro to Sudrian Histories:

 

 

Threads feel a bit more like a story, so it makes sense to show progress here.
 
Index:
 
No.805 'Suddery Cathedral'

This has been struck from the list and deleted from my fictional universe.
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/blog-1365/cat-628-805-suddery-cathedral
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No.705 'Westlin'

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No.704 'Duke of Gordon'
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/1365/entry-19128-nwr-no704-duke-of-gordon-full-story/
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No.503 'Colonel Henry Regaby'
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/blog-1365/cat-610-503-col-henry-regaby
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No. 301 'Thomas Allen'
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/blog-1365/cat-635-301-thomas-allen
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No.106 'Perseus'
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/1365/entry-19127-nwr-no106-perseus-full-story/
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As with all modellers, I'm amassing a box full of spare bodies, chassis, and general bits and pieces, so every now and again, I think to myself 'What if I stuck this onto that, this here, dipped it in glue, then rolled it in the box?'
 
These are the misadventures with my fictional freelance fleet.
 
 
 
Hope you enjoy, it's a bit of fun, after all!

 

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Most recently, I purchased a rather playworn (But working) Hornby 'Thomas' to donate its chassis and various parts to my E2 project. This left me with a margate-spec chassis and a still-smiling body.

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Not smiling for long though, as out came the tools. My general aim with this one is to turn it into a powerful-looking industrial loco.

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Firstly, the cab was cut up using a circular saw dremel attachment.

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I've always liked the angled bunker of the Hunslet 50550 class, so the bunker was duly cut, then spaced with strips of plasticard.

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A rear brace for the cab was added

I also rather like the distinctive cabs of the Lambton locos, and as this was to be an industrial loco, I wanted to modify the cab to fit in a similar loading gauge. In this case, the narrow cab of the E2 (Upon which this is based) rather lends itself to the modifications.

Strips of plasticard with slots for the side tanks, then cut diagonally.

 

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Glued to the cab sides

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The innards of the bunker are added

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and the rear of the cab also gets extenders

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Here it is, plonked in place to show the intended appearance

 

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Meanwhile, as I had no desire to lower the running plate, the front splashers were unnecessary and removed.

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I've got a hankering to extend the boiler by adding a longer smokebox wrapper, along with the bufferbeam, and make allowance for outside cylinders.

 

Next job is to fix those holes in the running plate, though. Currently waiting for the miliput to dry so it can be sanded and a coat of filler primer added to the rear.

 

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Thanks!

 

Here's tonight's bodgery....

 

I was able to get a blast of filler primer on it as a 'reveal' coat, then started to sand and file down the miliput filler

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Meanwhile, a chunk was missing from one of the rear cab windows, so I cut a piece of plasticard to plug the gap.

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A few more blasts of FP later...

 

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There were still a few dips that needed filling out, so I used some poster paint, which can be easily worked into gaps and sanded afterwards.

 

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Now, the next step was to attach the cab sides, in order to allow for adjustment of the roof to fit. These were fitted into place with poly cement.

 

 

 

Here it is plonked roughly on the chassis, I'm erring toward keeping this as an inside cylinder loco, as with these size wheels on this wheelbase, there's not really enough room for cylinders without moving the wheelsets around.

 

 

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I tidied up the front footplate area a bit, need to cut some plasticard to shape and fill in those gaping holes at the front.

 

 

 

 

 

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Cheers all, today I spent some time on the loco.

 

Sanded back the paint blobs to something that feels smooth - Ideally one more coat of filler primer after I've filled in the gaps in the front footplate and around the cab sides. Also some Caley Coaches 'pop' safety valves turned up on the desk   :)

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A hole was duly drilled and they slot in rather well

 

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I've also been cutting plasticard blanking plates for the running plate...

 

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... and sanding down the sides where the numbers were showing through.

 

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One thing had been nagging at me - a fairly obvious omission, the chimney!

 

Now what could I use?

 

A rummage among the spares gave me the chimney I had sawn off the Princess to make a Cathedral class, but being a mainline engine it was very short. Needed something to go in the middle.

 

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Then, fortuitously, my pen ran out! Hmmm....

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A wee bit of choppage...

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A hole drilled... Probably a bit too big at this stage

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Cut down... it's getting there!

 

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The Lambton locos had fairly stout chimneys and domes as seen in this photo, so with a bit of filler around the base it should blend in well.

http://www.lambtonlocomotivestrust.co.uk/industrialsteam2/photos/photo_48.html

 

Also, pulled the whistles out using pliers (Going to have a different setup - likely cab roof-mounted) and filled the holes with fast-drying white stuff modelling putty, amazing! You have to be quick though....

This is where she stands currently, note I've also rubbed back the tank sides as the number 1 and lining were showing through a bit too much. Now they are much flatter, a dose of filler primer and some fine sanding should smooth that out well.

 

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'evening all - in between celebrating the lovely lady's birthday, today I managed to squeeze in a few tasks...

 

Upper bunker plate cut

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Smokebox saddle and under boiler blanks fitted

 

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Rather than simply fill the splasher holes with putty, I wanted to retain the ability to glue/bond things to them, so used some transparent plastic, filled and sanded at the edges

 

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Test assembly of the parts - needed to file away the bottom of the safety valves to clear the motor

 

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Into the paint shop - amazing how the cab sides blend so much better with a uniform colour

 

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Filling gaps, followed by poster paint to allow more sanding flat, another coat of FP added and going to be left to dry/harden for a day or so before I try to sand it flat with some really fine grit sandpaper

 

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Small steps - my first ever lap irons made from plasticard - rather flimsy but ah well.

Remaining jobs:

Sanding all surfaces smooth

Bufferbeams need extending down in the middle as per the Lambton locos

Coat of BLACK - really looking forward to this, as then I can..

Glue the roof on

Details added - I have various handrails, bits and bobs that I'm going to experiment with

More BLACK

Red bufferbeams

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The cab roof was too plain, so I made up a dummy roof hatch using plastic.
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Still needed a whistle now that I'd torn out the old ones, once again using the lambton locos as a base.
Looked around at the chaos of my workbench and found a small offcut of plastic, and a paperclip....
Drilling using a tiny bit and my fingers

 

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Pushed on with a blob of superglue

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Teeny hole drilled

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Paperclip pushed in place and glued underneath!
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Superfine sandpaper is here so I can get it rubbed down tonight
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At the risk of too many updates, here's this evening's fiddlins....

 

Into paint! Thin coats, sanding in between with fine grain paper.

 

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Looking a lot better - bottom of the safety valves took some sawing to stop it fouling the motor

 

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Looking a lot more like an industrial loco from the back!

 

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A smokebox door should be on the way soon - £1.50 from ebay

 

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and a close up of the whistle (rather pleased with that) and the sliding roof hatch

 

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Bufferbeam extensions on, handrails fitted to smokebox and door fitted to front (both from a 14xx detailing kit). Safety valves now in black.

 

Still a few bits of daylight showing through which need to be filled, details added (e.g coupling hooks, tool or sandboxes, coal, crew, shunters pole maybe?) and the chassis needs a bit of paint - red rods and black wheels.

 

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Excuse the wonkiness of the body.... snapped spring?

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Cheers m'dears. Not done owt the past few days as have been waiting for paint to arrive to do the rods, bufferbeams and frames.

 

As far as I understand, transfers should be applied to gloss paint only, so I should do the tank and bunker sides in gloss before applying the transfers (Just some simple letters and numbers - likely NCB), then dulling it down and sealing it?

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Short answer - yes.

Longer answer - a smooth glossy surface will prevent the transfers from silvering, they will also stick much better to it.

Gloss paint, or matt paint + gloss varnish , will work. A final coat of matt or satin varnish will seal the transfers in and get rid of the gloss finish.

If you are applying the transfers to a flat surface you shouldn't need any setting solution, just water.

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In the absence of gloss paint, I haven't yet got in a position to number the loco, but I did go on ebay after a few drinks and bought a load of NCB wagons for it to shove around.....

 

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It needs some couplings too, but I think I'm banned from buying more railway stuff until next month as a house move is impending.

 

In other COBBLING news, I acquired two GBL 'Mallards' for less than £6. One of them needed a trim, based on a photoshop I found rather endearing...

 

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Notched the skirts to allow the curve to be altered, GBL chassis got the same treatment for a test fit.

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Ah yes, Gresley's 1937 rebuild of Raven's C7 Atlantic, with V2-style firebox, cartazzi, and conjugated valve gear. Since the LNER was a bit tight on cash, a 'rebuild' made sense on paper. In the end only one was converted, and was sold to another company after the war. The rapid introduction of the V2s rendered the rebuildings somewhat pointless.

 

Now... how to power it?

 

A Princess chassis... rear 2 drivers are a lot closer spaced than the LNER chassis

 

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I think on the right is an LNER front bogie from an A1, compared to the long Princess one on the left

 

Off come the rods

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Followed by the front weight, and the bogie placed under there

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The body was measured up, and the chassis cut down accordingly

 

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Then, like an idiot, I chopped through the main pickup wire, which will have to be resoldered and the pickups fixed in place as they keep falling out. Currently waiting on a soldering iron before I can begin work again :)

 

 

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And I thought was mad! Best use of a GBL Mallard so far? I'm looking forward to seeing this one finished.

Anyone fancy stretching one to a 4-8-2 or 4-8-4 ?

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Heh heh thanks - well I do have a spare centre section now!

 

Splashed a bit of colour on evil thomas... Red bufferbeams and rods, copper whistle and safety valve tips, and matt black on the wheels

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Plonk

 

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Here we go, some buffers on and pics in a much brighter room! The red rods really set it off for me, much better. Bufferbeams not that neat but might get a slap with the weathering powders.

Managed to colour the whistle in which is nice.

 

 

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This one's a bit of a long-term cobble, but finally managed to get some modelling done today after the house move and associated madness.

 

The hybrid child of many locos.

 

Boiler/running plate/chassis is a BR(W) King

Smokebox door from an LNER A1

Cab from an LMS Princess - modified

Smoke deflectors and chimney from an SR 'Schools'

 

Not yet decided on a tender, but have been trying various ones out and the end result could be a hybrid of more than one, just like the loco.

 

The Walschaerts gear was fitted, then removed when I had a bit of a change of heart in the overall look, but I think I will be refitting it.

 

As with 'evil Thomas', this is a bit of fun to practice some techniques and cobble something together. It'll likely end up painted NWR blue as with '704' and '805', as seen on my blog.

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The Atlantic Streak was fixed together a while back, the large yellow joiner was cut from a spraycan lid.

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The valance has been suitably bent on one side so it flows properly, just needs filler, and I'll proceed with the other. With the body shortened accordingly and filled, I can work out how to fit it to the chassis and get the electrics fixed.

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