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The Stanier boiler and cab test fitting around the motor, needed to trim a bit of the firebox away but it's not very noticeable. What is now more evident is the lack of detail between the frames, I'm going to have to do something about that.

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The LNWR bought a number of RoD 2-8-0s and classified them Class MM - officially Ministry of Munitions but to the staff, Military Marys. If the LMS had been a little more strapped for cash in the 1930s, I can imagine them ending up like this.

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Thanks! I think 'could have happened' stuff like that is what I'm trying to achieve with this fictional world.

Today I are mostly been pugbashing but that's a story for another day. In between all that the 7F upgrade has been better fitted, needs tidying up.

 

Here's the queue of NWR heavy goods locos. The ROD will represent a pre-rebuild example, I'll have more bodies than chassis so will be able to swap them over. It'll be getting an enclosed cab like the 8F. The WD 2-8-0 will be getting NWR (LMS-like) fittings, and the 8F is probably just getting new paint.

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The Bear decided to guard the main lines for me which was very kind of him.

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Having mounted the Garratt, I wasn't totally happy with it, feeling the rear engine was too far back. The solution was to cut away the rear part of the boiler frame allowing more pivoting around the motor, and thus the wheels can sit under the cab, achieving the look I was after. The U1 was more like this than the LMS Garratts.

 

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The ashpan was refitted by hacking down the back part of the ROD chassis frame, and cutting a slot in the ashpan for it to fit.

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Gooder.

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Reference - see how the driving wheels are tucked under the cab.

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The design of the bunker and water tanks is likely to be similar to the U1, as it will need access to the inside valve gear (and thus the lost water capacity will need to be made up elsewhere) and as a banker, adhesion is the priority rather than route availability.

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Just so I understand this, were the arches under the tanks/ bunker on the U1 to allow access to the middle drive, if so something that had never dawned on me?

 

On that basis some poor soul had to crawl over the muck on the running plate below the tanks, and then reach down to do the work. Not really surprising that steam didn't have a future.....!

 

John.

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That's what I gathered, it's a 6 cylinder loco with Gresley's conjugated valve gear so you'd need to access the motion inside the frames. Likewise my loco, being based on the Robinson 8K, has the valve gear inside the frames.

 

Compare this with the LMS 4 cylinder Garratts which had outside Walschaerts only. No upper front or rear water tanks but the space above the frames is filled with water tank.

 

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Just so I understand this, were the arches under the tanks/ bunker on the U1 to allow access to the middle drive, if so something that had never dawned on me?

 

On that basis some poor soul had to crawl over the muck on the running plate below the tanks, and then reach down to do the work. Not really surprising that steam didn't have a future.....!

 

John.

If you like cosy, the best one I’ve come across was the ex NER ‘X’ class 4-8-0T, with big deep side tanks. Between the frames you had the conrod from the inside cylinder, with two sets of Stephenson valve gear on one side, and one set on the other, the whole lot built massive as only the NER knew how. You could go over the top from in front of the tanks, which were blotting out all the daylight, or attack from underneath on a pit. Both ways it was very cramped and dark.

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... the 8F is probably just getting new paint....

 Oh no, surely the NWR would fiddle with it a little? Give it a Fuwak ejector (FUlly Whirling Atmospheric Kombinator - or something.

 

Love the 'Robinsonesque' Garratt. Cannot help but suspect that this might actually have been an unqualified success.

 

 

 

...On that basis some poor soul had to crawl over the muck on the running plate below the tanks, and then reach down to do the work. Not really surprising that steam didn't have a future...

 In like manner our descendants will marvel at a time when people were apparently keen to jump into little metal boxes every morning to travel to a sort of voluntary prison, for the purpose of earning a living.

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In like manner our descendants will marvel at a time when people were apparently keen to jump into little metal boxes every morning to travel to a sort of voluntary prison, for the purpose of earning a living.

Hi 34...B&D

 

It baffles me that more folk can't see through such a nonsensical illusion, yet some of them insist that money as an actual concept is real.

 

The way I see it is this, should hard work be good for you then the rich and greedy would have kept it for themselves !

 

Gibbo.

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The Stanier boiler and cab test fitting around the motor, needed to trim a bit of the firebox away but it's not very noticeable. What is now more evident is the lack of detail between the frames, I'm going to have to do something about that.

Gosh! What a great engine! I bet it runs well!

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In like manner our descendants will marvel at a time when people were apparently keen to jump into little metal boxes every morning to travel to a sort of voluntary prison, for the purpose of earning a living.

Hi 34...B&D,

 

To add to your post have a wonder at how the system of voluntary prison is actually achieved,

 

 

 

Gibbo.

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Any road up, here's what I've been up to. The donor 8F boiler has had the holes filled and filed. I almost wish I had a belt sander to get the underside completely flat as even the razor saw hasn't given a totally even base.

Rather than show every step here's a pic to sum up where I'm at. Boiler lining on both the pre and post-rebuild 7F bodies done, tender lining started. The double window cab for the Robinson boiler version is in the works..

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I also finally got around to fitting more Narrow Planet plates to some of the fleet, here are three big locos now with names.

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Not a massive update but I'm in a period of lots of lining going on.

 

What did please me, though, was positioning Thorkell alongside Vanguard (shown pre-rebuild) and noticing the various elements like the livery, the cabs, and the tender, bringing two quite different designs a bit closer together.

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Looking very glossy (must do something about that!) is Triumph (shown post-rebuild). At the moment it's sharing Vanguard's tender and chassis until I dismantle another O4.

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Triumph's original 8F firebox was extended with a styrene wrapper to envelope the motor, I picked out the details with a little paintbrush to try and highlight them.

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Once these two are at a good stage I'm planning to return to Revenge and start building the front tank superstructure using the 8F running plate.

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Hmm, fun as ever Corbs. 

 

Seeing your RODs in bits and a box shifter selling them for 50 Quid made me buy one. Really , The CR had some. Er, 53 of them. 

 

Relax , they were black and unlined. 

 

Unless someone comes up with a pic of one in full CR lined blue , in which case I have a bit of a job on my hands ................. 

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Congrats on joining the RODunauts!

For the price I don't think I could do better, I'm planning on getting a couple more GWR ones to convert into the Stanier boiler versions and possibly a tank loco variant in the style of the Kitson 2-8-2T locos in Australia. They run so well and the mechanisms are relatively small.

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I like the similar-but-different approach on the RODs, very much like in real life. Now, can I resist getting one of my own?

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Join us.

 

 

 

 

 

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Continuing the similar-but-different theme, currently working on 703 'Powerful' post-rebuild, in the mid-1950s fitted with a Giesl Ejector.

 

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One of the main reasons to press on with this was to hack off the running plate so I can use it on the Garratt. Here's a rough plonk.

 

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Nice work Corbs, although I'm not sure a Giesl ejector will ever win any beauty contests!  :O

 

I spotted the vans at the back and looked at some of your past posts. Another proof that raised lines can work really well as a backscene (at least when photos are taken from below). Must remember that.

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Nice work Corbs, although I'm not sure a Giesl ejector will ever win any beauty contests!  :O

 

I spotted the vans at the back and looked at some of your past posts. Another proof that raised lines can work really well as a backscene (at least when photos are taken from below). Must remember that.

You're damn right Mikkel, although I have a soft spot for them. My inclusion here is based on BR's experience with Fighter Command and 92250 in 1962.....

 

34064 Fighter Command - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/gallery/image/18554-bulleid-bb-no34064-fighter-command-with-giesl-chimney/

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92250 - https://railphotoprints.uk/p945932623/h2D5D8185

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... and the K&WVR's experience with 34092 City of Wells and perhaps the lesser known experiment with 2MT 78022.

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So here in this universe, the NWR was an early guinea pig.

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I wanted to add a little bit of something between the frames on the locos fitted with LMS type 3C boilers. A few bits of styrene strip help to break up the large slab of undetailed metal and give a suggestion of valve gear.

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Vanguard's tender is now lettered.

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I agree that the raised line at the back adds so much more depth, especially comparing to earlier photos. I still need to add some low relief warehouses.

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Narrow Planet's latest delivery has arrived! 

 

This means that '407' Sigrid and 403 'Thorkell' both have identities.

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The Robinson/Stanier hybrids also have their numbers. No names yet, will order them soon. Unfortunately my final ROD chassis donor didn't work so it's going back to the shop for an exchange. Vanguard's going to have to wait until then.

701 'Triumph'

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703 'Powerful'

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Really pleased with how these came out, here's the original concept pic :D

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Now the ex-ROD locos are nearing some sort of completion (although they need glueing together) I can crack on with REVENGE.

 

Disclaimer: There is a really ruddy obvious mistake that I have made, but my excuse is I'm off work sick and brain is running at reduced capacity (I forgot, basically).

 

Started by using styrene strip and L Section (bought from the shop in Portishead #supportlocalbusinesses) to build up a substructure mounted to the chassis for the running plate to rest on.

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Like so...

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Now, I'm really bad at cutting straight lines and I need to practice, so I took this section slowly and started by making a simple box supported with the L section.

Then I added the turn-ins at the end and the big L shaped sheets for the bunker.

 

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THIS is where I went wrong. I was so eager to see how much weight I could pack in this thing that I forgot to cut the side access holes in! Will have to figure out a way to drill through the lead shot now it's in there. Gah, lesson learned.

A floor was added to the main section and a hole for a mounting screw added, surrounded with the box section.

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So that when it's filled with lead, I can still access the screw (under the water filler cover)

 

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Current state of play.

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If you can get a knife blade down the joint between the side plate and the shot, you may be able to prise it apart.    Do you use superglue or something else for the shot?

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Yep it was superglued in very well!

 

The dremel, craft knife and pin vice all came to the rescue, though. I cut a piece of box section up to form the underside of the crawlspace aperture. My crawlspace is very small! Poor engine crew. At least they get an enclosed cab on that windy hill.

 

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I wasn't happy with it, though. The water tank was far too tall. It resembled neither the LMS Garratts (non revolving bunker) or the U1 and when I looked at it, the crew wouldn't have been able to see much out of the rear windows.

 

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I marked up 5mm to trim off - it's full of lead so I had to use the razor saw to chop through all of it. The lid was salvageable and reattached.

 

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I like it much better now. It also gives me the correct height for the front tank (which can have a top extension like the U1 did, which will help mask the motor).

 

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More Revenge!

 

Last night I was building the bare bones of the front tank.

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The lid is made from 4 layers of styrene in decreasing widths, all but the top one have a cut out to fit around the motor.

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The tank was filled with layers of lead shot held in with runny superglue, while the layered edge of the lid was packed with a few layers of squadron green putty.

 

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Here it is after a blast of primer.

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Posed next to another work in progress, Port of Par-style Bagnall 'Bill' in need of cylinders and motion.

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Is that Bagnall the Hornby or the Bachmann?   I was thinking of kitbashing the Bachmann version into a box-tank Neilson, much like Neil.

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