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Can anyone suggest a freight kit from the association shop that would be fitting in the 80's and found in the south east region please. I have never built a kit before, and if I'm honest don't know what I'm looking at when trawling the associations shop. I'm looking to build something to test my first attempts at turnouts and was originally going to buy a Peco/Farish wagon and re-wheel it but figured I may as well see how bad my first attempt at rolling stock is instead.

 

Any suggestion, tips/advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

Pete

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Hi Pete,

 

There isn't a huge selection of kits in the 2mm shop of prototypes that would have been around in the 1980's - most of the kits are from the 1940s-60s period as that's where most of the demand seems to be.

 

Having said that, something like a Grampus (2-505 body + 2-351 chassis) would probably have been kicking around in the departmental fleet into the 1980s. The body is a Parkside Dundas moulding, so good quality and fits together well, and the chassis a fairly simple fold-up job. You will need to buy axleboxes/springs separately, either 2-310 (etched) or 2-460+2-474 (cast whitemetal) as they're not included on the chassis etch.

 

The other option would be a Shark ballast brake van (2-565 body + 2-355 chassis) - again they lasted into the 1980s.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Andy

Edited by 2mm Andy

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I have a Southern Region Civill Engineers Wagon Guide dated October 1983.

 

To confirm Andys suggestion above there were 498 vacuum fitted grampus allocated to Tonbridge. (and 116 more based at Salisbury)

I see no mention of Shark plough vans, but there were 60 Sealions allocated to Salisbury to be loaded at Meldon for use throughout the Southern.

 

There were a number of BR standard brake vans still in use, either vac or dual piped versions.

 

Also a few specialist lowmacs or flatrols, though whether they are the versions covered by the range I could not say,

examples are Flatrols DB900010/21/24/27/28/29/32/33/34/35, DB900106/110/122, DE217320

Lowmacs DB904500, DB905074, DE230928, DE260848, DE260850, DE278505,

 

cheers

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Thanks guys, I shall order your suggestion and see how I get on, I will post pics of the attempt on here, with any luck soft focus won't be required :)

 

Pete

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"I have a Southern Region Civill Engineers Wagon Guide dated October 1983"

 

Does your guide have an ISBN number? Having a copy to hand would be incredibly useful.

 

Pete

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"I have a Southern Region Civill Engineers Wagon Guide dated October 1983"

 

Does your guide have an ISBN number? Having a copy to hand would be incredibly useful.

 

Pete

Hi Pete

The booklet was produced by the Southern Region Civil Engineers Wagon Control in Southern House Croydon and not for sale.

My copy came from my brother who worked there,

 

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Hi Pete

The booklet was produced by the Southern Region Civil Engineers Wagon Control in Southern House Croydon and not for sale.

My copy came from my brother who worked there,

 

cheers

I had a feeling you were going to say that :(

 

Pete

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Pete,

 

David Larkin's books on wagons (published by Kestrel Railway Books) are definitely worth a look - 'Civil Engineers Wagons Volume 3', 'Wagons of the Early British Rail Era' and 'Wagons of the Late British Rail Era' would cover the era you're interested in. Not just Southern region though.

 

There is also Paul Bartlett's excellent wagon website; http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/paulbartlettsrailwaywagons

 

Andy

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Pete,

 

David Larkin's books on wagons (published by Kestrel Railway Books) are definitely worth a look - 'Civil Engineers Wagons Volume 3', 'Wagons of the Early British Rail Era' and 'Wagons of the Late British Rail Era' would cover the era you're interested in. Not just Southern region though.

 

There is also Paul Bartlett's excellent wagon website; http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/paulbartlettsrailwaywagons

 

Andy

Thanks Andy, I shall take a look.

 

It would appear my first point may well be complete long before I have constructed a wagon. Can anyone suggest a current readily available wagon and the associated drop in wheel set? I really want to test this point before building more :D

 

Pete

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