46011 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Newcastle Central station, 45140 starts 1M76, the 14:20 service to Liverpool Lime Street on 12th June 1985. 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc60015 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) Toton 18/7/2011 97403+56093 Edited June 11, 2022 by malc60015 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnw1 Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 D5 (44005), Entered Traffic 10/59, Withdrawn 4/78, Broken Up 11/78 Holding the fifteenth spot for the shortest service life at 18 years, 6 months is another of the Pilot series, D5 (44005) Cross Fell. It was built at Derby Works and entered traffic in October 1959. In 1962 following a short career as passenger locomotives generally on West Coast Main Line duties the ten Pilot series locomotives were allocated to Toton for freight traffic in the East Midlands and had their steam heating boilers removed. From then until withdrawal the Class 44's would be synonymous with Toton. in general, only working to the limits of the route knowledge of Toton's goods link drivers and usually on out and back turns. 44005 was withdrawn at the end of April 1978 with generator damage and was initially stored at Toton but moved to Derby Works on the 31st July 1978. It was broken up at Derby Works during November 1978. 44005 – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5528693004/ 44005 – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5792756338/ To be continued 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted February 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 1, 2021 Myself and a friend have both been scanning our slides and have found photos of Peaks on mgr trains. A surprise as I didn’t think peaks had slow speed controls needed for loading and unloading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnw1 Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 Peaks did not have SSC but where sometimes used on "trunk haul" from Toton down the MML to the Southern Region with coal for Northfleet Cement Works/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 On 01/02/2021 at 17:44, ColinK said: Myself and a friend have both been scanning our slides and have found photos of Peaks on mgr trains. A surprise as I didn’t think peaks had slow speed controls needed for loading and unloading. Used to see class 44's at Ratcliffe on Soar power station on mgr in 1973/4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted February 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2021 Done a bit more research, Peaks where used for trunk hauls from as far north as Tyne Yard, probably to the London area where Southern motive power took over. What I also discovered (much to my surprise) from a former BR employee working in coal, that at some collieries, mgr wagons were loaded by a a big road vehicle (one of those with a big bucket at the front) because their predicted lifespan didn't justify building a hopper to load the wagons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 On 01/02/2021 at 20:25, johnw1 said: Peaks did not have SSC but where sometimes used on "trunk haul" from Toton down the MML to the Southern Region with coal for Northfleet Cement Works/ Peaks travelled all the way to Northfleet, but double heading with a 47 for (I think) the section between Brent and Northfleet. They certainly reached the Southern with 47+45. Picture at Dartford, and more info, in this thread: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/104643-1977-mgr-working/ Welbeck (Notts) was one of the collieries involved. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50A55B Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 12 hours ago, ColinK said: Done a bit more research, Peaks where used for trunk hauls from as far north as Tyne Yard, probably to the London area where Southern motive power took over. What I also discovered (much to my surprise) from a former BR employee working in coal, that at some collieries, mgr wagons were loaded by a a big road vehicle (one of those with a big bucket at the front) because their predicted lifespan didn't justify building a hopper to load the wagons. Here's 45039 The Manchester Regiment at York Yard North with mgr empties for the NE, 5th July 1979. It left the wagons in the down sidings adjacent to the sugar beet factory and went back south light engine, so possibly Toton crewed. Loaded trains from the NE would lay over in the up sidings before heading S. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted February 3, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 hours ago, eastwestdivide said: Peaks travelled all the way to Northfleet, but double heading with a 47 for (I think) the section between Brent and Northfleet. They certainly reached the Southern with 47+45. Picture at Dartford, and more info, in this thread: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/104643-1977-mgr-working/ Welbeck (Notts) was one of the collieries involved. An entry in the 1976 R.O.: "22/06/76: 47324 piloting 45129 on Welbeck/Brent-Northfleet APCM coal train. The cl.47 pilots provide better acceleration in the SR suburban area and are used for their SSC when discharging. They are now often attached/detached at Clapham Jcn(W) instead of Brent(LMR) as previously." Also @SED Freightmanspotted 47354+45112 through Clapham Jn on 24/10/75. From this thread: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/157105-class-47s-south-eastern-divison-the-definitive-list-complete/&do=findComment&com 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc60015 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) classic loco!!! 45013 @ March 30/05/1987 Edited June 11, 2022 by malc60015 photo 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnw1 Posted February 6, 2021 Author Share Posted February 6, 2021 45005 – https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/50852366511/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc60015 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 45141 @ Derby 10/04/1987 cheers Malc Edited June 11, 2022 by malc60015 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimly Feendish Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 4 hours ago, malc60015 said: 45141 @ Derby 10/04/1987 cheers Malc 45 141 was the last peak I needed for the 'class'. Even pictures of it seem relatively rare. Thanks for posting. John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc60015 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 9 hours ago, Grimly Feendish said: 45 141 was the last peak I needed for the 'class'. Even pictures of it seem relatively rare. Thanks for posting. John. No problem John , I have a few more peak photo’s to scan when I get time. cheers Malc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 45142 approaching Stenson Junction on 19 Dec 1981 with the 07:44 Cardiff to Newcastle train. 45132 at Stenson Junction on same day with the 07:00 Newcastle to Bristol train 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnw1 Posted February 14, 2021 Author Share Posted February 14, 2021 45120 – https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/50928771167/ 46027 – https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/50938350247/ 45024 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/50942233047/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Poor Old Bruce Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 D87 seen at Derby 29 April 1962. No doubt somebody can tell us what the train was. 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc60015 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) 45137 @ Derby 10/04/1987 I used to go to Derby on Friday nights to see the Peaks On the Postal's ,Happy Days!!! Edited June 11, 2022 by malc60015 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnw1 Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share Posted March 9, 2021 D149 (46012), Entered Traffic 12/61, Withdrawn 7/80, Broken Up 10/80 D167 (46030), Entered Traffic 5/62, Withdrawn 12/80, Broken Up 11/82 Holding the sixteenth and seventeenth spots for the shortest service life at 18 years, 7 months are D149 (46012) and D167 (46030). By the summer of 1980 only three class 46 locomotives had been withdrawn (46003/05/24 with collision or fire damage) and although class 46 locomotives were still generally up to the tasks demanded of them the introduction of the HST’s, the reduction of traditional freight traffic flows and the steady delivery of new freight locomotives meant that there days were numbered. Although Derby Works continued to undertake classified repairs until January 1981 the withdrawal program commenced in July 1980 when 46012 was withdrawn with a cracked frame. 46012 was towed to Swindon Works and broken up within three months of withdrawal during October, the first Class 46 to be broken up at Swindon. 46030 was one of the Class 46 locomotives stored at Swindon at the end of the 1980 summer timetable and arrived for storage at Swindon during November 1980. It was officially withdrawn in December 1980 and was not among those reinstated at the end of 1981. It would languish at Swindon until finally broken up in November 1982. 46012 – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/6334015498/ 46030 – https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/14056048271/ To be continued 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc60015 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) 45118 at Derby 10/04/1987 cheers malc Edited June 11, 2022 by malc60015 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Poor Old Bruce Posted March 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2021 45034 near Wingfield with the 07.30 Birmingham to Newcastle train on 25 June 1981 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc60015 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 (edited) Time to bump this thread . 45141 at Derby on April 24th 1987. cheers malc Edited June 11, 2022 by malc60015 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 Another bump. A bit of something to make you think. Do any of you recognise the location of this piccy of 45116, taken in 1983? It may be obvious, it may not. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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