Popular Post 37114 Posted November 9, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2014 I finished the first stage of the wiring tonight as up until now the connections between the control panel and the controller were temporary. To provide some resilience the layout is wired so that the gaugemaster transformer or a hand held unit can control the track, a DPDT switch controlling which is selected. This setup was the same for Pallet Lane and was chosen for 2 reasons: - Operational resilience - If one plays up the other can be brought into play - Feedback vs non feedback control - Most of my locos run better with feedback control from the hand held unit but my class 31 has a Hornby chassis and runs better with the non feedback controller I have also made the basic cassettes for the fiddle yard, they are basically peco track on 9mm ply base and will have aluminium angle section added to ease movement of them. Time will tell how successful they are, I have some reservations about using cassettes and may reconsider using a traverser instead To test the wiring 37009 had a run tonight: 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Lovely work, well photographed too. Question, what is the parentage of the Mini Traveller/Countryman in the middle of the top row in the scrap pile, I've been looking for one Thanks in advance Jinty ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I finished the first stage of the wiring tonight as up until now the connections between the control panel and the controller were temporary. To provide some resilience the layout is wired so that the gaugemaster transformer or a hand held unit can control the track, a DPDT switch controlling which is selected. This setup was the same for Pallet Lane and was chosen for 2 reasons: - Operational resilience - If one plays up the other can be brought into play - Feedback vs non feedback control - Most of my locos run better with feedback control from the hand held unit but my class 31 has a Hornby chassis and runs better with the non feedback controller I have also made the basic cassettes for the fiddle yard, they are basically peco track on 9mm ply base and will have aluminium angle section added to ease movement of them. Time will tell how successful they are, I have some reservations about using cassettes and may reconsider using a traverser instead To test the wiring 37009 had a run tonight: Great looking broken wall, details like that really do add to the whole layout Great modelling Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 Lovely work, well photographed too. Question, what is the parentage of the Mini Traveller/Countryman in the middle of the top row in the scrap pile, I've been looking for one Thanks in advance Jinty ;-) Hi Jinty The Mini's are Carama ones that have been in the back of the cupboard for about 10 years, I bought loads when they first burst onto the scene. Most of their stuff was 1:72 but it is less noticeable with the Mini's. In addition to the standard mini, they did the countryman and the van (which is underneath the countryman in the pile). I am not sure if you can still get the Carama ones, but maybe worth a scout on ebay. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Hi Jinty The Mini's are Carama ones that have been in the back of the cupboard for about 10 years, I bought loads when they first burst onto the scene. Most of their stuff was 1:72 but it is less noticeable with the Mini's. In addition to the standard mini, they did the countryman and the van (which is underneath the countryman in the pile). I am not sure if you can still get the Carama ones, but maybe worth a scout on ebay. If you can't find one Jinty let me know I have a couple somewhere. You can have one if you want. Cheers Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 If you can't find one Jinty let me know I have a couple somewhere. You can have one if you want. Cheers Peter. Hi Peter, That's very kind, I'll have a scout around first. I only want one as I had a green one as my first car, it was my mum's but she bought a Triumph 1300 so I inherited the Mini. Jinty ;-) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 I have been making some progress on the cement terminal of late, and have added a couple of new structures, namely a bunded fuel tank for diesel for the road vehicles and a control room come traffic office for the cement terminal. Having looked at pictures of Exeter amongst others there seemed to be a small brick built building close to the silo's. I presume these housed the pumping equipment for the silos as well as controlling the loading of the road tankers. The building seemed to have a raised floor so I decided they would make a nice scratch-building opportunity. The fuel tank is a ratio kit with the bund scratch built from brick sheet. A fuel pump will be scratch built over the weekend to go in front of the tank With some help from Dave, I have also been finishing the areas near the bufferstops. I wanted it to look like the line continued over the road at one stage hence why the wall stops short. I really liked the effect of Mudmagnet's block wall on Acacia Avenue and was tempted to do the same but I found the gate in the spares box and plumped for that instead as the Avon Street yard used similar gates. Dave was also kind enough to bring over some spare figures as I had been struggling to find 2 suitable looking Men holding flags for the Level crossing. These were given suitable 1977 style haircuts (i.e long!) with the aid of some brown paint (photos of them next update) 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Hi Rob, wow you really have made some serious progress since I last dropped in on your thread. I love the look and feel of the whole layout, the weathering and scenic work really finishes it off. Really do like the weathering on the track and around the scrap yard, quality! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Hello 37114. Really love the derelict scene you have created, really nice.. George Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mudmagnet Posted November 21, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2014 Great work Rob! The pump house looks perfect and the old line running to the gate also looking good! Thanks for the mention about Acacia Avenue! I probably pinched the idea from somewhere else anyway. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 Great work Rob! The pump house looks perfect and the old line running to the gate also looking good! Thanks for the mention about Acacia Avenue! I probably pinched the idea from somewhere else anyway. Thanks Richard, I just need to avoid the temptation to extend the line through the gate in the future! I did promise myself at the start that this layout will always stay small as I wanted a layout ideal for 1 day as well as 2 day shows. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 Quite a few pictures to share and my PC seems to put all the pictures at the bottom of my posts so is easier to split todays update over 2 posts as they cover 2 distinct subjects. The biggest frustration I had exhibiting Pallet Lane was there were so many different pieces to the Jigsaw all of which had to be carried in an out of the hall at the either end of the show, taking 10 trips between the Hall and the car. I was determined that this would not be the case with Peafore Yard and so have designed the legs and baseboards accordingly. As things like lighting, pelmet and buildings are permanently fixed to the baseboard it is heavy so I was determined to make a wheeled trolley that it could be moved on. In the interests of saving space in the car the legs double up as the trolley and I purchased a set of 80mm diameter castor wheels from Screwfix today. The pictures below show the various stages of how the "trolley" is assembled, it is worth saying that what will take 1 move for Peafore Yard would have taken 6 moves for Pallet Lane. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 37114 Posted November 22, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2014 Having done the heavy engineering during the day, tonight's focus was scencery. While showing how the new wheels worked to the kids, my daughter remarked that I needed some scenery or pictures at the back of the layout as it looked bear. Scarily she has picked up her mothers ability to read my mind as I had printed out some suitable pictures on Friday. I had always planned that the track on the highest level closest to the back of the layout would not be operational with a train stopped at a signal. To find the right height to mount the pictures above the train, I used some MK1s placed on some track. I had previously cut away the sky from the images as the backscene is spliced from more than 1 picture with different colour sky. I find it somewhat difficult to find just the right picture to use as many photos do not have an urban skyline as the focal point! I have included some before and after shots. I have also secured the people Dave gave me on Wednesday. I think figures look much better if placed in stationary cameos rather than walking etc. The photos show a couple of the cameos, including the level crossing keeper based on the photo that sparked my interest in making the layout: 26 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Fantastic. Ingenious wheel/legs contraption. Love the detail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 I love the latest additions Rob, the skyline is really effective. Are they all photos of Bristol, or just an urban mixture? jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60091 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Hi Rob This layout just keeps getting better. The 37 and Mk1s at the higher level with the photographic backscene works perfectly. I'm also a big fan of the disused track running beyond the buffers and remember a similar idea on Acacia Avenue. Definitely an opportunity for a future extension... ... maybe a small coal yard with 16t minerals or a below track discharge system and couple of air braked HBAs? Cheers Alan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 I love the latest additions Rob, the skyline is really effective. Are they all photos of Bristol, or just an urban mixture? jo Hi Jo, the photos are both from Bristol, the join is to the right of the gas holder. The eagle eyed will notice Temple Meads station on the skyline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 Hi Rob This layout just keeps getting better. The 37 and Mk1s at the higher level with the photographic backscene works perfectly. I'm also a big fan of the disused track running beyond the buffers and remember a similar idea on Acacia Avenue. Definitely an opportunity for a future extension... ... maybe a small coal yard with 16t minerals or a below track discharge system and couple of air braked HBAs? Cheers Alan Thanks Alan, I have a couple of 21t hoppers in build as there was a coal depot on the other side of the city centre which would make a nice project in its own right. The trains used to pass through Ashton Meadows sidings which would make a good project and is a potential future project for me in the medium term. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazmanjack Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 You have created an excellent atmosphere around this grotty location. Looking foward to further updates. Cheers, Gary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBlue80s Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Second that - excellent atmosphere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mudmagnet Posted November 25, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 25, 2014 The photo background adds so much to the overall scene. I really like the low level views as well. I'm in full agreement about the figures as well. I do find sourcing suitable figures for 1980's period difficult and also those in static positions. Just one question about the casters. Are these hard rubber or softer? The only potential problem with the hard rubber is that over a rough surface, the vibrations will be transmitted into the layout. If this the case, may be worth considering using a layer of foam under the layout to dampen the vibration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Realy looks something now!! Looking forward to more from this now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 The photo background adds so much to the overall scene. I really like the low level views as well. I'm in full agreement about the figures as well. I do find sourcing suitable figures for 1980's period difficult and also those in static positions. Just one question about the casters. Are these hard rubber or softer? The only potential problem with the hard rubber is that over a rough surface, the vibrations will be transmitted into the layout. If this the case, may be worth considering using a layer of foam under the layout to dampen the vibration. Hi Richard, The wheels are the harder version, there is some element of give in the wheels but vibration is a concern, the car parks at Cheltenham and Calne stick out as being particularly rough from memory. I like the foam idea so will have a root around the loft! The other idea I had was putting some rubber mat between the wheel mount and where they bolt to the legs Sourcing of the figures is somewhat a detective challenge, Bachmann do some lovely bang up to date figures such as workman etc plastered in Orange HV clothing but there seems to be a dearth of anything in between 1960's and now. The Presier range do some nice figures which can suit, and the Punks on Pallet Lane got many mentions/smiles over the years. I don't think I photographed it but Dave gave me a white metal figure that looks to be a 1970's driver (complete with BR badge on the Hat!) that he bought in error and is too late for his layout, frustratingly I have no idea who produced it. Thanks Rob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 Realy looks something now!! Looking forward to more from this now... Thanks plenty more still to do, not least quite a bit of fencing. I am looking forward to doing the upper level platform, I have 6 BRUTES to make up and a pack of train spotters at the ready. I wonder if Radpido will sell me the APT door stop sandwich as an accessory? Spam of course. Also some rod is in stock for making the bottles of Vimto... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Hi Rob, Love the latest pics, the upper level works really well, and the backscene looks spot on. Cheers Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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