bridgiesimon Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Am really looking forward to these, they look superb and it has been a very long wait since the rumours first started. Best wishes Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N Gauge David Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Very nice video preview and update on these locos on the Graham Farish website. Apparently they will be available July or August. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on a Southern livery version http://www.Bachmann.co.uk/details.php?id=361 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted June 9, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 9, 2015 Very nice video preview and update on these locos on the Graham Farish website. Apparently they will be available July or August. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on a Southern livery version http://www.Bachmann.co.uk/details.php?id=361 The video is a nice idea, but if you are going to make one to show off a new loco, then showing the loco running would be a good idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 The video is a nice idea, but if you are going to make one to show off a new loco, then showing the loco running would be a good idea. Yes, I was thinking that as the camera zoomed in and out on a static subject "what's the point of a motion picture if you only film a stationary working model....." G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 If the locos in the video are livery samples they might not actually have a motor in them. Just a thought Les Lovely engines but for me too far South by about 200 miles..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 If the locos in the video are livery samples they might not actually have a motor in them... Unlikely, as I understand review samples (presumably working) have been provided for a while and l wouldn't have thought that Farish would present 'livery samples' as representative of completed manufactured models. Besides even if they were non runners it doesn't negate the question as to why bother to film them when decent still photos would suffice. G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgiesimon Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Yeah totally agree, I was also very disappointed not to see them running, seemed a little pointless. They do look very good though despite standing still!! Best wishes Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Collier Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Hi,Just picked up my N Class in SECR grey from my local shop. It is a beauty but with a word of caution which IIRC had been mentioned in a review: The metal coal load/weight is a lose fit and falls out very easily if the loco is not upright (ie taking it out the box). Not that much of a problem but it has plastic fire iron holders attached to it which will break easily if dropped.I can't really see why it needs such a big weight in the tender as it is loco driven so it's not helping with traction, in fact probably hampering as the loco has more weight to pull. Anyway the coal space is well moulded underneath.Gareth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted July 7, 2015 Author Share Posted July 7, 2015 Hi, Just picked up my N Class in SECR grey from my local shop. It is a beauty but with a word of caution which IIRC had been mentioned in a review: The metal coal load/weight is a lose fit and falls out very easily if the loco is not upright (ie taking it out the box). Not that much of a problem but it has plastic fire iron holders attached to it which will break easily if dropped. I can't really see why it needs such a big weight in the tender as it is loco driven so it's not helping with traction, in fact probably hampering as the loco has more weight to pull. Anyway the coal space is well moulded underneath. Gareth Response from Bachmann Europe Plc. The small tender weight is to ensure the otherwise lightweight tender does not bounce on the track when pulled and also to ensure the tender wheel pick up functions okay. The coal load is loose to suit those who like to fit their own coal. Dennis Lovett Public Relations Manager Bachmann Europe Plc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Collier Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Many thanks for the info. I can see how it could help with pickup but I'd have thought the weight of what it is pulling would stop it bouncing. I've given mine a good run and seen no evidence of bounce when running light. Still it's not the end of the world and it's better there than being needed but not there. My only gripe would be the fire iron holders are glued into the weight so it'll need a bit of work if you don't want the weight. Running was superb straight from the box, very slow, controllable and silent, so even with running in I can't see how it could improve! Interesting the bag of bits includes front foot steps even though to the best of my knowledge 810 didn't have any in SECR days. Gareth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Cheaper to do one bag of bits containing everything needed for any variant than to do a different bag for each loco- and less likelihood of someone putting the wrong bag in with the engine. Just a thought. Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Collier Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Cheaper to do one bag of bits containing everything needed for any variant than to do a different bag for each loco- and less likelihood of someone putting the wrong bag in with the engine. Hi Les, Normally that would make sense but in this instance each bag of bits will be loco specific as the steps are grey to match the loco (as are the cab doors) so I'm guessing they'll be green for the Southern one and black for the BR! Still some of the later N's may have had steps pre Southern so they'd just need a bit of renumbering. Gareth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Hello Gareth. Probably still easier to have all bags containing the same bits - it then means the operative only has to use one list, or if filled robotically (in China?) only one program to prepare, the difference being in the colour of the parts in a couple of the hoppers. Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted July 8, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 8, 2015 Not long to wait now for 31844 (card debited yesterday). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted July 8, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 8, 2015 Picked mine up today, lovely looking model. No idea how it runs ... yet! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted July 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9, 2015 This has most definitely been worth the wait! As with the Merchant Navy, a very smooth runner straight out of the box with no wobbles or other running issues, although we do have the return of traction tyres on the rear drivers. The backhead detail is the equal of the 4F, and for me it is easily on a par with the Ivatt 2MT which has been the recent benchmark in terms of details and running quality. As Gareth already pointed out, the tender weight is a very loose fit, so be careful when taking it out of the packaging. There is a representation of a lesser coal load underneath the metal weight, no doubt necessary to still leave enough room for a decoder. All in all, a beautiful little model! Tom. Graham Farish N Class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgiesimon Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Am now looking forward to getting one more than I was before, thanks for posting the piccies. Best wishes Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted July 10, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 10, 2015 Further to my previous reply. It's a lovely looking model, but I might have a dud. Very sticky at the start, then proceeded to move irrationally. After a little running some improvement has been seen, however it's still not great. If it does not improve significantly it's going to be returned. Shame as I know the shop doesn't have anymore at the moment. - Edit / update. After over an hour running in (in each direction) the forward motion is now approaching acceptability and the reverse motion is acceptable. Time to let is rest for a few hours and see if the stickiness returns, I'm hoping not! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernboy Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Mine arrived today and is happily trundling around Frankland. Are the smoke deflectors supposed to come in the little bag of extras? I don't seem to have any Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvinley Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Further to my previous reply. It's a lovely looking model, but I might have a dud. Very sticky at the start, then proceeded to move irrationally. After a little running some improvement has been seen, however it's still not great. If it does not improve significantly it's going to be returned. Shame as I know the shop doesn't have anymore at the moment. - Edit / update. After over an hour running in (in each direction) the forward motion is now approaching acceptability and the reverse motion is acceptable. Time to let is rest for a few hours and see if the stickiness returns, I'm hoping not! Do the valve guides move up and down on your loco Kris? They did on mine and I glued them in position. This made things much smoother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvinley Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Mine arrived today and is happily trundling around Frankland. Are the smoke deflectors supposed to come in the little bag of extras? I don't seem to have any The SR and SECR versions don't come with deflectors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernboy Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Thanks Elviney. I believe they did have them (??) http://www.semgonline.com/steam/nclass_01.html I guess I can just make some if necessary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvinley Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Thanks Elviney. I believe they did have them (??) http://www.semgonline.com/steam/nclass_01.html I guess I can just make some if necessary I know they did have them but I meant the Farish versions don't come with them I have the two locos I mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernboy Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Thanks for clarifying Elviney - just opened the box and wasn't sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvinley Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Thanks for clarifying Elviney - just opened the box and wasn't sure It would certainly have been a nice addition. I can't understand why this is so much cheaper than the Merchant navy. I know it is a smaller engine but the valve gear is more complex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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