hmrspaul Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I don't think the weathered Express Parcels W94598 has been illustrated on here, The original, not very weathered one is http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brcct/e205c2a67 One item not noticeable on my photo is that the model has blue solebars, which is correct. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudley Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Will the Invicta models (- made for Bachmann?) then be sold through Bachmann stockist such as Hattons? Or are the two separate concerns? I pre-ordered two from Hattons back in the summer but haven't heard anything yet. Dudley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted October 14, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2014 Will the Invicta models (- made for Bachmann?) then be sold through Bachmann stockist such as Hattons? Or are the two separate concerns? I pre-ordered two from Hattons back in the summer but haven't heard anything yet. Dudley Hi, Dudley. These models are exclusive to Invicta, and, as far as I know, will not be made available elsewhere. I do not know how you managed to pre-order two of them from Hattons - I do not recall seeing any Bachmann CCT's on the web-site. I hope that this is of some help. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LongRail Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 There is a CCT Van listed on both Hattons and the Bachmann site 39-528. Tried posting a link but cant get this to work in the editor, was having trouble posting yesterday as well so may be an issue with my computer. The Bachmann Van is a different model completely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 39-528 is the Southern Railway CCT. Invictas model is the British Railways MK1 CCT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) I have now received my trio of Invicta CCT's, and very nice they are too (especially the weathered one) - but once again, Bachmann have screwed up the couplings. The NEM mounts are a tad too far in, so standard Roco couplers will not engage. The longer Hornby versions work but leave a large gap which the whole point is to avoid. Using a standard coupler on one side and a Hornby version on the other reduces the gap a bit. I would have thought that Bachmann, with their continental experience, would by now know where the NEM pocket should be. If anyone released a model in Germany with incorrectly sited NEM pockets, they would be blasted in the model railway press. The models would be seen as faulty due to non-compliance with standards, and Bachmann would have to replace the models, or at least hand out replacement drawbars (if they are easily replaced by the buyer). Edited October 16, 2014 by Dogmatix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted October 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2014 I have now received my trio of Invicta CCT's, and very nice they are too (especially the weathered one) - but once again, Bachmann have screwed up the couplings. The NEM mounts are a tad too far in, so standard Roco couplers will not engage. The longer Hornby versions work but leave a large gap which the whole point is to avoid. Using a standard coupler on one side and a Hornby version on the other reduces the gap a bit. I would have thought that Bachmann, with their continental experience, would by now know where the NEM pocket should be. If anyone released a model in Germany with incorrectly sited NEM pockets, they would be blasted in the model railway press. The models would be seen as faulty due to non-compliance with standards, and Bachmann would have to replace the models, or at least hand out replacement drawbars (if they are easily replaced by the buyer). Doesn't surprise me, the majority of the rest of the underframe is a work of fiction, why should the couplers be any different? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Higgs Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the pictures Shedmaster. I bought the Masterclass kit (only because it was a steal and I do like brass kits). The instructions include a diagram of the brake gear set up. I could scan and post here but I'm not certain of the copyright. If anyone wants the sketch, PM me and I'll email it. John Feel free to post here if you want. You can also look here for photos of the underframe on my CCT kit. Even this is an approximation in parts. https://www.flickr.com/photos/chrishiggs/sets/72157603397695116/ Chris Higgs (aka Masterclass Models) Edited October 17, 2014 by Chris Higgs 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted October 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2014 I have now received my trio of Invicta CCT's, and very nice they are too (especially the weathered one) - but once again, Bachmann have screwed up the couplings. The NEM mounts are a tad too far in, so standard Roco couplers will not engage. The longer Hornby versions work but leave a large gap which the whole point is to avoid. Using a standard coupler on one side and a Hornby version on the other reduces the gap a bit. I would have thought that Bachmann, with their continental experience, would by now know where the NEM pocket should be. If anyone released a model in Germany with incorrectly sited NEM pockets, they would be blasted in the model railway press. The models would be seen as faulty due to non-compliance with standards, and Bachmann would have to replace the models, or at least hand out replacement drawbars (if they are easily replaced by the buyer). The quick fix, if you want to use Hornby/Roco coupler heads, is to take a bit off the front of the pocket and use the Hornby one. You could add a bit to the back to compensate but it's easier to hold it in place with a drop of glue or drill and pin it. I'm now resigned to "losing" Bachmann CCU mounts as a matter of course, either substituting other CCUs or, as in the case of this van (the TMC Horsebox is similar) just building up suitable mounting blocks and fitting ordinary Kadees (# 141 on the CCT and HB because of the deep "fishbelly" buffer beams). This suits me as I use Roco heads within fixed sets and Kadees on the end(s) of anything that requires shunting. The newer style Bachmann CCU as used on the CCT also droops a bit and needs fiddling with to get a NEM-fit Kadee head to sit right. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DropTheTap Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Doesn't surprise me, the majority of the rest of the underframe is a work of fiction, why should the couplers be any different? Mike. It looks a little spurious in places I'll grant you, but compared to some RTR wagon underframes it's not *that* bad... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted November 3, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2014 A quick heads up if anyone is looking for the RTC Blue/Red version; although previously shown as sold out on Invicta's website, it's now showing as limited stock available. The maroon one is now showing as out of stock though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Picture of the Red Star livery here, showing some good detail: NPV M94173 at Chester by Tutenkhamun Sleeping, on Flickr 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim76 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Picture of the Red Star livery here, showing some good detail: NPV M94173 at Chester by Tutenkhamun Sleeping, on Flickr On the Invicta model the white stripes are yellow. Is this a mistake or were some actually yellow? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRail Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 One of the clearest pictures I have seen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted November 12, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2014 On the Invicta model the white stripes are yellow. Is this a mistake or were some actually yellow? I certainly recall them as being yellow so perhaps those on the van illustrated have faded. My maroon pair have entered traffic here after a decent weathering and are looking good in the mixed parcels rake. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Feel free to post here if you want. You can also look here for photos of the underframe on my CCT kit. Even this is an approximation in parts. https://www.flickr.com/photos/chrishiggs/sets/72157603397695116/ Chris Higgs (aka Masterclass Models) Sorry for the late reply Chris. The CCT is currently not in my era but it does look tasty. I particularly like underframe detail - those pictures in the flickr link will be incredibly useful, I wish more kit makers would do things like that. One of these days I'll get involved in a BR layout and build it. Cheers, John John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim76 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I certainly recall them as being yellow so perhaps those on the van illustrated have faded. My maroon pair have entered traffic here after a decent weathering and are looking good in the mixed parcels rake. Rick, the Hornby version are in white incidentally. Hope you enjoyed your trip back to Englandshire! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted November 13, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2014 Thank you Jim. Perhaps there were in fact two variants and photographic evidence will emerge to support that. Englandshire was a wonderfully relaxing and enjoyable time. I'm still editing the thousands of photos I took but hope to have a gallery up within a week from now. I'll be back next April as well for a major family event, a wedding photography shoot for friends and the RMW/SWAG annual beano at Staplegrove all in the diary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted November 13, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2014 IIRC Red Star 08721 had yellow stripes, anyone confirm this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairburn Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 IIRC Red Star 08721 had yellow stripes, anyone confirm this? Deffo looks that way - http://railphotoprints.zenfolio.com/p191445442/h15C46189#h15c46189 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Just got a maroon one, very nice model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Higgs Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Thank you Jim. Perhaps there were in fact two variants and photographic evidence will emerge to support that. Englandshire was a wonderfully relaxing and enjoyable time. I'm still editing the thousands of photos I took but hope to have a gallery up within a week from now. I'll be back next April as well for a major family event, a wedding photography shoot for friends and the RMW/SWAG annual beano at Staplegrove all in the diary. Very late reply, but these look yellow to me https://www.flickr.com/photos/21611052@N02/3650492465 So perhaps they did come in both yellow and white. EDIT: or perhaps they are white, and its just the grim Yorkshire day? Chris Edited October 21, 2015 by Chris Higgs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRail Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Chris if you look at the next photo along in the set https://www.flickr.com/photos/21611052@N02/3650492307/in/photostream/ then compare the yellow of the red star logo with the white handrails below and the adjacent stripe they the colour looks closer to white but just dirty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 For those who have not spotted the new catalogue from Bachmann has some in for general release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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