Brian Indge Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I am sure that I read recently that until the new layout is connected up at Whitby, all trains will be top and tailed from Grosmont. I feel sure that Boris, of this Parish, will know for certain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
55016 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 That's what I understand also, heard until early July, which I believe means 3 NR registered locos are required to be rostered on most days. Currently this involves the 25 and 2 steam locos, the 25 just being involved on the Grosmont-Whitby section. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted April 10, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 10, 2014 As I was through the town tonight I thought I would pop down with my camera and see how work was progressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Now that is serious progress. Thanks for the photos, Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 It is looking good. I hope to make it over during the summer when, hopefully, the new platform will be completed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Looking very good there! Excellent to see the point work going in for the run round lop to be in the station. It will open up a number of new, soon-to-be regular and classic photo locations at the station area that will quickly become established. Cant't wait! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted April 11, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 11, 2014 Been over the 'New Bridge' this afternoon and glanced across and noticed that the turnout at the 'outer' end of the loop has been laid, this was a kit of parts (bit like a C&L one) in the compound last night. Didn't have my camera with me unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indomitable026 Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 New bridge ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted April 11, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 11, 2014 The road bridge over railway and river, opened in 1980 and still known as the New Bridge... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLPG Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I was there Wednesday and got a number of photos but they are out of date now, I will not post them now! Lots of progress in a couple of days. At current rate it should be complete by next weekend! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanks522 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I'm impressed that the contractors can lay track through a Whistle sign, and ballast it! Graham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted April 12, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 12, 2014 This is Yorkshire, it would cost money to move the sign... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLD Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 And I think it is a Network Rail sign not NYMR... so "Nowt to do with me Gov"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevo6791 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Heres some I took yesterday Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I've got a copy of the signalling plans for the NYMRs' Whitby playpen, there's a ground frame going in that must have 8 or 9 levers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Shame really that there isnt some small box to be built. Surely that would be the best option, even if just a portacabin to start with. Yes you might be able to get more trains down, but its not going to be much fun if you need to stop short of the point, unclamp it and then drive into the station with the ground crew having been on the train. Then have something similar on departure. I would think its best to have them there in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Nice to see - The beginning if the end of the Beeching era inspired single track minimalistic terminus which has blighted branch lines for @ 50 years? XF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Shame really that there isnt some small box to be built. Surely that would be the best option, even if just a portacabin to start with. Yes you might be able to get more trains down, but its not going to be much fun if you need to stop short of the point, unclamp it and then drive into the station with the ground crew having been on the train. Then have something similar on departure. I would think its best to have them there in advance. The points won't be clamped they are locked from the larger of the two ground frames. But stopping short and the member of staff leaving the train to work the frame is exactly what's going to happen, the frame is unlocked by the DOKT carried by the loco so the GFO has to meet the train and walk back to the frame anyway so that wouldn't gain you anything. The thing is the NYMR has had to pay for this (the best part of a million quid) and to do anything more fancy, like motorised points etc, was WAY out of our price budget, it doesn't mean it won't happen in the future, it's just not happening now. Please don't bug me as to when, I/we don't know, it's just chalked up as something we'd like to happen when the money becomes available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 14, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2014 The points won't be clamped they are locked from the larger of the two ground frames. But stopping short and the member of staff leaving the train to work the frame is exactly what's going to happen, the frame is unlocked by the DOKT carried by the loco so the GFO has to meet the train and walk back to the frame anyway so that wouldn't gain you anything. The thing is the NYMR has had to pay for this (the best part of a million quid) and to do anything more fancy, like motorised points etc, was WAY out of our price budget, it doesn't mean it won't happen in the future, it's just not happening now. Please don't bug me as to when, I/we don't know, it's just chalked up as something we'd like to happen when the money becomes available. The delay on departure will of course be somewhat longer as the GFO, whoever it happens to be (and it would be more sensible to use a member of traincrew as Boris has said) will have to walk the length of the train to get the token back to the loco once the 'frame has been closed, cue expensive walkway as well as the other works;) Providing motor points would strike me as a considerable waste of money as they would offer no gain at all. The real capacity gainer is splitting the NSKT section at Grosmont but as Boris has already indicated NR wanted silly money to do that so I suspect it will never happen unless the NYMR wins the lottery or whatever (or lands a really big grant from someone) so this is probably not a bad investment as an alternative and will presumably in any case require a token machine to be installed at Whitby, which won't be cheap, in order to shut-in the NYMR train. What did intrigue me however was mention of a shunting token (if I read things properly) - obviously in theory if not in practice there has to be some way of maintaining the equivalent of Absolute Block in the NYMR and it would seem to me that the logical way of doing that would be to use a train staff which would co-operatively release the connection from NR with the NSKT token and that connection could only be reversed with the engine release points GF locked normal or also provided with a spring slot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward66 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I see the points have bullhead rail, wonder where they came from. Edward Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Battersby has a shunting token tied into the DOKT to allow you to use the loop safely, it's an Annetts key locked in an instrument tied to the block system, it'll be something similar at Whitby I think. I'm not sure what points you're looking at edward, they look like flat bottom to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted April 14, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2014 As far as I could tell all trackwork is brand new. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I see the points have bullhead rail, wonder where they came from. Edward I doubt any of the points in this job are bullhead. As a customer you could go to any switch and crossing manufacturer and state what material you want the points made in, bullhead included. London Underground would be a little lost without this service methinks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 The existing stuff is bullhead in Bog Hall yard as its part of the old Up main and goods yard and has been down since the 40's/50's, that's all I can think edward means, the new pointwork is all flat bottom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Nice to see - The beginning if the end of the Beeching era inspired single track minimalistic terminus which has blighted branch lines for @ 50 years? XF This line received a similar hatchet job.. If only it was still there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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