Popular Post Rivercider Posted January 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) I have already found 50014 at Exeter St Davids, I can't find 50015, but here are 50016, 50017 and 50018. 50016 Barham approaches Lostwithiel with 3S15 Penzance to Glasgow parcels. 23/6/82 50017 Royal Oak has arrived at Exeter St Davids with the 06.41 service from Salisbury. Meanwhile 31260 shunts a newspaper GUV which will be attached onto the empty newsvans train for Old Oak Common. 9/7/85 50018 Resolution runs non-stop through Dawlish Warren with the 07.55 summer Saturdays only service from Worcester to Paignton. 19/7/80, cheers Edited January 8, 2021 by Rivercider additional information 23 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D826 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) Neil/Kevin Those images above are fantastic. Like doesnt do'em justice. Su bloody perb. (Edited original Anglo Saxon word as betraying poor linguistic skills). F me. (Whisper it but I have a bit of a thing about Western Blue Brush type 4 namers pre tops too, I mean Cyclops, Titan, Mammoth, Odin etc - what names) I've fought it and tried but I'm addicted. Naming went TU in the 80s, IMHO. (And I like the 46 on the through road at Exeter) Going to sit with a pint of Bishopsfinger and imagine that 46 making the rails sing on the cant (careful - spelling) on the way down at Langstone Rock. I can hear the wagons banging and wheel flanges screeching and see the oil lamp on the end wagon disappearing into the distance under Lady's Mile footbridge. The 50 and Hymek at Reading, -smashing. Cheers and thanks for posting chaps. Matt W Edited January 8, 2021 by D826 Honesty about an addiction ! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Cheers Matt, I'll dig some more 1970s views out later on (when I'd invested in a better camera) - including a couple taken on the Falmouth branch - but I think Rivercider's going for the full set......well, nearly! I really must get around to scanning my 1980s photos, I only ever got to 1979 and that was quite a while ago. BTW, although I was aware that 50014 was the last one to be refurbished I hadn't realised until recently that it was the third one to be withdrawn - as a result it only ran in Large Logo livery for exactly four years, from Dec 83 until Dec 87. Consequently photos of it in this condition will be that much more uncommon. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 33 minutes ago, Neil Phillips said: Cheers Matt, I'll dig some more 1970s views out later on (when I'd invested in a better camera) - including a couple taken on the Falmouth branch - but I think Rivercider's going for the full set......well, nearly! I really must get around to scanning my 1980s photos, I only ever got to 1979 and that was quite a while ago. BTW, although I was aware that 50014 was the last one to be refurbished I hadn't realised until recently that it was the third one to be withdrawn - as a result it only ran in Large Logo livery for exactly four years, from Dec 83 until Dec 87. Consequently photos of it in this condition will be that much more uncommon. I am not sure about a full set. I searched through the ones I had already scanned, I have more to do when I get round to them, so may reach 50. I did not realise that 50014 in Large Logo was rare, I do have one photo of it, 50014 Warspite at Exeter Central on the 08.11 Exeter St Davids to Waterloo, 1/7/85 cheers 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D826 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) Warning- thread drift. Indulge me. My favourite 50s were always 50 030 and 50 044. Both ships lost in the far east. Repulse alongside HMS Prince of Wales as the first ships to be lost exclusively to air attack. Exeter, in the Java Sea a couple of days after HMS Jupiter. (Thats the origin of my d826 monicker). Coincidentally, my grandfathers ship HMS Encounter, an E Class destroyer, went down in the same engagement. Sadly he never came back from Fukuoka B POW camp. Any time I think I am having a hard time I think of what he went through and get a grip ! Got his seamans (ditty) box and postcards sent from Grandad to dad, bearing the ominous words "Imperial Japanese Army". Includes one with return to sender on it from Dad to his Dad saying "here's to when we go to speedway at White City again". The return to sender, addressee deceased always gives me pause for reflection. The Battle of the Java Sea and loss of HMS Exeter a couple of days later in March 42 are a dusty corner largely forgotten corner of history. Example of international cooperation - American, British, Dutch Australian ABDA force- and total disaster which are barely mentioned these days. An object lesson in underestimating an enemy and the amazing performance of the Japanese Type 93 torpedo. The Exocet of its day. Extraordinary weapon in terms of range and speed. Drift over. Back to the 50s. Marvellous stuff. Best regards Matt W Edited January 9, 2021 by D826 Sense 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, D826 said: Warning- thread drift. Indulge me. My favourite 50s were always 50 030 and 50 044. Both ships lost in the far east. Repulse alongside HMS Prince of Wales as the first ships to be lost exclusively to air attack. Exeter, in the Java Sea a couple of days after HMS Jupiter. (Thats the origin of my d826 monicker). Coincidentally, my grandfathers ship HMS Encounter, an E Class destroyer, went down in the same engagement. Sadly he never came back from Fukuoka B POW camp. Any time I think I am having a hard time I think of what he went through and get a grip ! Got his seamans (ditty) box and postcards sent from Grandad to dad, bearing the ominous words "Imperial Japanese Army". Includes one with return to sender on it from Dad to his Dad saying "here's to when we go to speedway at White City again". The return to sender, addressee deceased always gives me pause for reflection. The Battle of the Java Sea and loss of HMS Exeter a couple of days later in March 42 are a dusty corner largely forgotten corner of history. Example of international cooperation - American, British, Dutch Australian ABDA force- and total disaster which are barely mentioned these days. An object lesson in underestimating an enemy and the amazing performance of the Japanese Type 93 torpedo. The Exocet of its day. Extraordinary weapon in terms of range and speed. Drift over. Back to the 50s. Marvellous stuff. Best regards Matt W Food for thought there Matt. We have problems now, but they just don't compare. Thanks for explaining the relevance of D826, (they are real Warships in my mind, not the class 50s). I will probably have seen D826 several times pass near my house. We lived near the line just east of Exmouth Junction until late 1971 so I remember Warships and 63s (class 22) passing by. Back to the 50s, and I have a number of photos of 50044, I will dig some out later. Meanwhile here are 50019 and 50020. 50019 Ramillies departs from Newton Abbot with failed DMU set B471 heading for Laira. 3/7/82. Seen from Devils Bridge 50020 Revenge passes the site of Bleadon and Uphill station with the 07.40 Taunton to Paddington service. It will be slowing for Uphill Junction and the Weston Loop line. 15/6/82. cheers Edited January 9, 2021 by Rivercider 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rivercider Posted January 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2021 Here are 50021 50022 and 50023, all early 1980s on the WR again. If I went west for a day out taking photos I usually caught the 06.35 Bristol to Plymouth service. This was one of the services in the West Country formed by a short set of mark 1 coaches, and was booked to convey vans on the rear. It then formed the 10.00 Plymouth to Penzance service. Here 50021 Rodney has arrived at Newton Abbot. 5/11/81 Later that same sunny November day 50022 Anson arrives at Exeter St Davids with the 07.34 Leeds to Plymouth service, just look at those BRUTES full of mail. 5/11/81. 50023 Howe calls at Oxford on a northbound cross-country service. 10/7/81. cheers 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rivercider Posted January 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 9, 2021 (edited) Still on the WR 50024 50025 and 50026. 50024 Vanguard runs into Westbury with the 14.30 Paddington to Paignton service, 26/4/80 50025 Invincible departs from Truro with a Ponsandane to St Blazey air braked freight. The PCAs are empty from Chacewater and are returning to Blue Circle Plymstock cement works, out of sight on the rear are discharged TTAs from Long Rock depot. 8/3/83. 50026 Indomitable is seen at Plymouth. Alongside 47487 is working the 07.40 Penzance to Liverpool Lime Street service. 8/3/83. cheers Edited January 9, 2021 by Rivercider spelling 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Two more photos from the WR in the 1980s, 50027 and 50028. 50027 Lion works empty stock from Paignton to Goodrington carriage sidings on a summer Saturday in July 1982. It would later work a service back to Oxford, 31/7/82 Approaching Oxford on a northbound service is 50028 Tiger. 10/7/81. cheers 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Here are 50029 and 50030 again in the west country. On a grey morning 50029 Renown arrives at Exeter St Davids with the first down train of the day over the former SR route, the 06.52 departure from Salisbury. 19/7/80. On summer Saturdays the local train service between Exeter and Newton Abbot was suspended during the middle of the day to create paths for long distance services some of which called at Dawlish Warren. In sunnier times 50030 Repulse has just called at Dawlish Warren down platform to disgorge more holdaymakers. 30/6/84 cheers 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rivercider Posted January 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) I can't find 50032 at present, but here are 50031 50033 and 50034. At Plymouth 50031 Hood waits with the 07.40 Penzance to Liverpool Lime Street. 15/11/82. Glorious to the rescue. At Exeter St Davids 50033 Glorious heads a HST set in difficulties, the power cars were 43150 and 43149. 2/4/82 The 12.20 Exeter St Davids to Waterloo service runs into Salisbury behind 50034 Furious. Class 50s had started regular work on this route in May 1980 taking over from Southern Region class 33s. 17/7/85. cheers Edited January 10, 2021 by Rivercider correction 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D826 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Aha - good old Repulse. Fantastic Kevin. I never thought of 50s as 'proper' Warships either. D826 looked like she had the same sort of camouflage as HMS Jupiter in the far east, prior to a Laira repaint in July 71. Exmover in the wash plant meant you could see traces of most of her liveries before the repaint. Rail Blue with arrows on each cab (which I think suited the D800s) was replaced by a single arrow amidships in the Laira repaint. For some reason the single arrow never looks as balanced to me. I liked the 50s mind you. We were spoilt in the mid 70s with D1000s, 45s, 46s, 47s, 50s. That was just type 4, and even post 50 naming in 78, you could still see all them, save the Westerns, + 08s, 25s, 31s, 33s on the mainline at Dawlish. An 08 would pretty frequently be seen scuttling, (no other word for it), along through Dawlish, presumably from Newton Abbot. There a good image of one in the down platform loop at Dawlish Warren in one of the Strathwood books. I always thought the 50s looked classy in rail blue with domino head codes. Still do though like them in most liveries. Original NSE seemed to weather really badly and bought earlier hydraulics to mind. Love this thread folks. Keep it going. A very appreciative reader. Best regards Matt W 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Here are 3 more; 50035, (50036 is missing), 50037 from 1979, and 50038 A bit of a long shot here literally. 50035 Ark Royal passes Exeter Riverside with the 09.20 Paddington to Plymouth as 47110 waits in Riverside Yard with ballast empties for Meldon Quarry. 21/7/80. 50036 missing in action 50037 Illustrious stands in platform 5 at Bristol Temple Meads with the 11.15 Plymouth to Manchester Piccadilly. The East End pilot with brake van attached as usual is 08644. 19/6/79. 50038 Formidable is stabled at Exeter St Davids with stock for a Waterloo service. alongside is 31424 with six mk1 coaches. 5/11/81 cheers 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rivercider Posted January 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) Here are 50039 50040, and 50041 again still on the WR At Didcot 50039 Implacable departs heading in the Oxford direction. 8/7/85. Double heading at Exeter St Davids. 50040 Leviathan and 50045 Achilles depart with the 08.30 Paddington to Plymouth, 8/4/80 50041 Bulwark arrives at Salisbury with the 09.38 Exeter St Davids to Waterloo, 9/6/83. cheers Edited January 11, 2021 by Rivercider spelling 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Ah, the infamous 50041 - on 23rd November 1983 (5 months and 14 days after your photo) I had to get from Swindon to Bristol (Clifton area I think) to attend an interview to get enrolled on a course, only to find the trains in chaos because Bulwark, heading the overnight sleeper from Penzance, had hit the Paddington approach pointwork at 55mph instead of 15 and ended up on its side. I made it just in time, albeit in a bit of a sweaty lather, but it was worth it because the course landed me a job at a company I was with until just two years ago when I retired. At the end of July I learned that Covid-19 had wrecked the company. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Here are 50042 and 50043, one on the LMR for a change. 50042 Triumph stands at Plymouth waiting to work the 10.00 service to Penzance. This loco and stock had arrived as the 06.35 service from Bristol Temple Meads to Plymouth with booked tail traffic of vans. 23/6/82 Now one photo from the London Midland Region. 50043 Eagle calls at Banbury with the 14.50 Paddington to Liverpool Lime Street. 17/11/82, cheers 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Following on from the post by Matt (D826) earlier, where he mentioned the history of some of the warships that were commemorated by naming BR locos, I have deliberately posted 50044, 50045, and 50046 together. Being an Exeter boy I learned about the WW2 Battle of the River Plate when I was quite young. In December 1939 HMS Exeter, HMS Ajax and HMS Achilles fought a successful action against the German heavy cruiser Admiral Graf Spee. I have included two photos of 50044 Exeter, because I can! 50044 Exeter arrives at Exeter St Davids with the 10.23 Manchester Piccadilly to Plymouth service. 5/11/81 And another view of 50044 the following year after refurbishment. 50044 Exeter brings summer Saturday empty stock from Goodrington into Paignton, 31/7/82. The main line through South Devon was very busy on summer Saturdays in the early 1980s. 50045 Achilles departs from Newton Abbot with the 09.30 Paddington to Penzance and meets 47240 with the 12.20 Paignton to Manchester Piccadilly service, 31/7/82 Nearing journeys end at Paignton is 50046 Ajax, which was one of the later members of the class to be called into Doncaster Works for refurbishment in October 1982. 31/7/82, cheers 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D826 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 50044, my fave Kevin. Some brilliant images there. The signal flag from HMS Exeter from the Battle of the River Plate hangs in Exeter Cathedral. For all we know we might be shaving with it after she, HMS Encounter and all the other Java sea wrecks - war graves no less, were illegally salvaged a few years back. Ironic and potentially a good twist if models of 50s from the far east have a bit of recycled metal from the real thing. Who knows. I've got John Vaughans Power of the 50s, published by OPC in 1979. It's all pre large logo and pre refurb but 50s on the Milks and on the clays, perishable, parcels , and on the proper Motor rail trains loading to 16 bogies. Theres a cracking image of 50044 on the up milk and 50 047, Swiftsure on a down express on Hemerdon bank. You can hear the exhaust of Exeter in the picture. Its brightening the January evenings this thread. Spot on. Cheers Matt W You can never post too many images of 50044 or any other 50, (or any other diesel traction in the west in the 70s by the way) ! Edited January 12, 2021 by D826 English and auto fill, bloody bloody android.... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted January 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2021 7 hours ago, Rivercider said: 50042 Triumph stands at Plymouth waiting to work the 10.00 service to Penzance. This loco and stock had arrived as the 06.35 service from Bristol Temple Meads to Plymouth with booked tail traffic of vans. 23/6/82 That BG is either heavily loaded, or it needs new springs at the far end at least.... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 12, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Rivercider said: 50044 Exeter arrives at Exeter St Davids with the 10.23 Manchester Piccadilly to Plymouth service. 5/11/81 And another view of 50044 the following year after refurbishment. If you look at the two photos of 50044, you will see that the crest has moved up after refurbishment. I noticed that at the time and wondered why. When I visited Doncaster Works during their refurbishment, none of the nameplates and crests were removed (except perhaps in the paint shop), so what happened to see the original crest attached to the body side being replaced by a crest on a wooden (I always assumed) plinth? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Here are 50047 and 50048, again both in the 1980s in the West Country. 50014 Warspite stands in platform 3 at Exeter St Davids as 50047 Swiftsure calls at platform 1 with the 06.35 Bristol to Plymouth service. 17/7/85. 50048 Dauntless is on an unidentified working up from the west and is seen passing Taunton Fairwater Pre-Assembly Depot (PAD). 24/8/81. cheers 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Here are the final two class 50s 50049 and 50050 (with 50029 in the background). Crew change at Salisbury, 50049 Defiance is working the 11.10 Waterloo to Exeter St Davids. 16/6/86. 50029 Renown lurks under the footbridge as 50050 Fearless calls at ExeterSt Davids with the 07.52 Paignton to Paddington service. 9/3/81. I am now going to look through my photo records to see if I can find whether I photographed the other missing locos 50005, 50008, 50015, 50032 and 50036 cheers 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 It's not the last two class 50s - its first and last 50050 was D400 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBlue80s Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 09/01/2021 at 10:06, D826 said: Warning- thread drift. Indulge me. My favourite 50s were always 50 030 and 50 044. Both ships lost in the far east. Repulse alongside HMS Prince of Wales as the first ships to be lost exclusively to air attack. Exeter, in the Java Sea a couple of days after HMS Jupiter. (Thats the origin of my d826 monicker). Coincidentally, my grandfathers ship HMS Encounter, an E Class destroyer, went down in the same engagement. Sadly he never came back from Fukuoka B POW camp. Any time I think I am having a hard time I think of what he went through and get a grip ! Got his seamans (ditty) box and postcards sent from Grandad to dad, bearing the ominous words "Imperial Japanese Army". Includes one with return to sender on it from Dad to his Dad saying "here's to when we go to speedway at White City again". The return to sender, addressee deceased always gives me pause for reflection. The Battle of the Java Sea and loss of HMS Exeter a couple of days later in March 42 are a dusty corner largely forgotten corner of history. Example of international cooperation - American, British, Dutch Australian ABDA force- and total disaster which are barely mentioned these days. An object lesson in underestimating an enemy and the amazing performance of the Japanese Type 93 torpedo. The Exocet of its day. Extraordinary weapon in terms of range and speed. Drift over. Back to the 50s. Marvellous stuff. Best regards Matt W My Grandfather served on Repulse for quite a few years. But had left that ship by the time the war started. So I have a soft spot for 50030. And cracking pictures Kevin. Cheers 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 26 minutes ago, woodenhead said: It's not the last two class 50s - its first and last 50050 was D400 Yes, good point, errr I wondered who would spot that first! I have looked through my notes and see that somewhere I have photos of 50008, 50015, 50032 and 50036. Frustratingly I noted 50005 Collingwood more than once when out with my camera, but do not to appear to have taken a photo, and never will now. cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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