Martin's modifications - tales from the dining room table, blue era locos, Lots of Mark 2s Airfix conversions

[Signaller69]

Nice to see a 2D BFK modelled, don't recall ever seeing one done before. 

 

Martyn.

[MJI]

10 hours ago, Signaller69 said:

Nice to see a 2D BFK modelled, don't recall ever seeing one done before. 

 

Martyn.

 

 

Seen one in a magazine before, and I am now on my second.

[MJI]

W5879 and W14159 share a donor

 

Also the second WR set has sprung a problem, I will have to change the set.

 

The problem is W14159.

 

Just checked a large pile of spotting documentation.

 

FOUR 2D BFKs over a large number of sets

 

W14140 W14147 operating together

W14152 W14159 operating together

W14159 on own

W14159 with W14077

 

EVERY twin BFK set I have seen contains 1 or 2 of the above. Only ONE does not have W14159

[muddy water]

11 hours ago, Signaller69 said:

Nice to see a 2D BFK modelled, don't recall ever seeing one done before. 

 

Martyn.

Martyn may have seen this post about convert Mk2d BFKs . I bet you could add to it with your experiences!

 

[MJI]

2 hours ago, jf2682 said:

I recently purchased some Hornby 2F TSOs to go with some Airfix 2D FOs, and was discouraged to see that the body profile is different, the 2Fs have a pronounced tumblehome.  Anyone seen this?  How will it look: they will be separated by an RB (R) of course.

 

John

 

 

They are all different.

 

Lima are a good profile but slightly tall on the sides.

Airfix are a good size but the sides do not turn under enough.

Newer models not so sure on.

 

Best profile is the very old Triang Hornby Mark 2.

 

2D FOs were not common in working with anything but other 2D, 2D FKs were more common user.

 

But noone does the full set of DEF so no matter what you do modifying is essential, so I use Airfix simply due to 1) Reasonable accurate, 2) Have around 20, 3) Not that expensive. 4) Need a repaint anyway.

[MJI]

Just painted 16 corridor connectors, all in satin black as it was handy.

 

Will paint the 2 end ones in fawn and red.

 

All were cut down, now using my special Airfix corridor connection cutting down jig.

 

Wil be fitting the joiners for the cams soon, then I can see what the set (so far) looks like.

[BernardTPM]

17 hours ago, Signaller69 said:

Nice to see a 2D BFK modelled, don't recall ever seeing one done before.

Back in the mid '70s I did one for a friend from a Triang-Hornby Mk.2 BFK, I'd guess around 1973/4 as the Airfix air-cons were a few years later.

[MJI]

On 21/01/2020 at 10:56, MJI said:

W5879 and W14159 share a donor

 

Also the second WR set has sprung a problem, I will have to change the set.

 

The problem is W14159.

 

Just checked a large pile of spotting documentation.

 

FOUR 2D BFKs over a large number of sets

 

W14140 W14147 operating together

W14152 W14159 operating together

W14159 on own

W14159 with W14077

 

EVERY twin BFK set I have seen contains 1 or 2 of the above. Only ONE does not have W14159

 

Decided I am going to modify that rake and use W14152, and decide that W14159 is up for repair instead.

 

Then I can shuffle them around and produce yet another set.

 

Yes 4 separate sets with W14159, 2 with W14077, 1 with W14152 and 1 not paired.

[MJI]

Will need to invade Brian at Shawplan as phone unanswered and emails not acted on since just before Christmas

 

Got a roughly £200 order for him for enough bits to finish 2 whole aircon sets and do half of the 3rd.

[Waverley47708]

On 16/02/2020 at 16:29, MJI said:

Will need to invade Brian at Shawplan as phone unanswered and emails not acted on since just before Christmas

 

Got a roughly £200 order for him for enough bits to finish 2 whole aircon sets and do half of the 3rd.

 

Brian was at ModelRail Scotland yesterday and will be there over the rest of the weekend.  

 

I spoke to him about the frames for the Mk2b and c.  My interest is for a couple of Lima Mk2bs or cs.  They are available but I'm  struggling to understand what to do about the glazing to go behind them.  There is no point in fitting the frames if the original Lima glazing is still set back.  I did ask if he had any plans to do a glazing unit to fit behind the frames as per the current glazing for the Mk3s etc.  I got the impression it may be a possibility but not anytime soon.

 

 

[MJI]

1 hour ago, Waverley47708 said:

 

Brian was at ModelRail Scotland yesterday and will be there over the rest of the weekend.  

 

I spoke to him about the frames for the Mk2b and c.  My interest is for a couple of Lima Mk2bs or cs.  They are available but I'm  struggling to understand what to do about the glazing to go behind them.  There is no point in fitting the frames if the original Lima glazing is still set back.  I did ask if he had any plans to do a glazing unit to fit behind the frames as per the current glazing for the Mk3s etc.  I got the impression it may be a possibility but not anytime soon.

 

 

 

 

I think I may have to visit him.

 

I have been metioning the glazing since  my first 2C.

 

If I had a laser cutter I would design and make my own 2_ABC glazing.

 

Hand cut a couple for the first BSO but I currently have 6 with another awaiting frames.

 

As to buying at shows, went to Warley and after my visit no more Airfix glazing or frames left. And there was no 2_ABC frames at all, I got there not long after opening and the first stall I went to.

 

Not really prepared to wait until next Warley as I am now scared I will be in the same position when I hit 60 as I started detailing these sets when I was 50.

[MJI]

Could I invent a fake exhibition to invite him to?

[MJI]

OK As to Brian, I will write to him AGAIN

 

Phone always rings out.

 

Since my 2ABCDEFs are stalled (2C BSO, 2A & 2D BFK 2DEF TSOs pls some Limas) working on my Mark 1s

 

2x TSO and 1x BSK from Triang, currently working on lining and running numbers, the loco chosen also needs some detailing work, not shiny enough plus tender axle boxes need painting.

 

HMRS lining is difficult to use!

[westie7]

7 hours ago, MJI said:

OK As to Brian, I will write to him AGAIN

 

Phone always rings out.

 

Since my 2ABCDEFs are stalled (2C BSO, 2A & 2D BFK 2DEF TSOs pls some Limas) working on my Mark 1s

 

2x TSO and 1x BSK from Triang, currently working on lining and running numbers, the loco chosen also needs some detailing work, not shiny enough plus tender axle boxes need painting.

 

HMRS lining is difficult to use!

 

I missed Glasgow due to work, so I've an email order in, will see how I get on

[MJI]

Got an email order in too, no reply

 

I think as soon as lockdown is over I am going to visit, either that or investgate nickel silver etching myself.

 

Got my last 4 framed Airfixes primed and roof painted, this weekend they will be sprayed.

 

Then only need 8 TSO and 1 BSO aircon frame set for DEF

[MJI]

Just had a paypallink for 141 quid of bits!

 

Enough to finish 2 whole sets!

 

Hopefully they will both be complete by end of month

 

ER NESW set and WR short set and a good start on WR big set

[MJI]

Another coat of primer on the 2 TSOs and 1 FO.

 

Will Rail grey them tomorrow.

Hopefully blue Monday.

 

Then back to work with 10 second commute.

[westie7]

I had my PayPal link the other week, just waiting now

[MJI]

3 x 2D TSOs rail grey

1 x 2F FO rail grey

116 DMS & DMBS rail grey but need second coat

Booth caretch primer as paint went lumpy and I wet and dried down to brass

 

After dinner grey the last 3

 

Tomorrow a huge list of blue

[MJI]

Enough Shawplan bits to finish 2 rakes and half a third arrived today.

 

Hope to be able to spray the 2C BSO soon.

[westie7]

2 hours ago, MJI said:

Enough Shawplan bits to finish 2 rakes and half a third arrived today.

 

Hope to be able to spray the 2C BSO soon.

 Lucky you, I'm still waiting

[MJI]

Will put some pictures up later.

 

Toilet side of 2C BSO W9461 is now window framed, waiting for the varnish to dry.

 

W3415, E5648, E5637 are in blue grey and just need some grey touchup

 

E5730 is grey with a little blue as I forgot to mask one side so stopped spraying.

 

E5660 is currently having its frames hacked off ready for the big filing session and 28 holes.

 

Hope to prime W9461 & E5660 near end of next week and if dry will grey them next weekend.

 

After this will be working on W14077 and W14152. Will do both at same time, considering replacing W14077s B4s with Airfix.

 

Making a mould of a Lima 2F fan.

 

After all this I have enough bits left for 4 Airfix TSOs, I have 3 and an FO

 

1 x WR 2D TSO

1 x WR 2E TSO

1 x WR 2F TSO

1 x WR 2E FO

 

So far Airfix TSOs

 

Also tempted to get more close couplers from Keen.

5 to my ER set as 2D frames, handrails, glazing.

1 to WR set 1 as 2D TSOT frames, handrails, glazing, interior.

2 to WR set 1 as 2E TSO toilets, door windows, frames, handrails, glazing, interior.

 

Airifx FO

1 to my ER set as FK, frames, handrails, glazing, interior.

2 to my WR set 1 as 2F FO, frames, door windows, handrails, glazing, interior, fans, box remove, roof panel.

1 to my WR set 1 as half a BFK, frames, handrails, glazing, interior brake.

 

Airfix BSO

2 to WR set 1 as a 2E TSO, join together, frames, handrails, glazing, interior, roof.

1 of the above brake to 2D BFK other to WR set 2 BFK

1 to WR set 2C BSO, recut windows, roof vents, frames, handrails, needs glazing.

 

ER set 8 vehicles, 4 complete, 2 in B&G, 1 in G, 1 being modified.

WR set 8 vehicles 6 complete, 1 in B&G, 1 being modified.

WR new set 2 being modified, 6 in queue, 3 TSOs to buy.

[ess1uk]

Looking forward to seeing the pictures 

[MJI]

W9461 is primed and will be up after race Across the World.

 

E5660 is hole drilled, but tii dark to grab rail.

[MJI]