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Following shells complete, just interior paint and reassembly, but with TSOT short one toilet window

 

2 x 2E TSO with swapped toilets, spent ages filing down door windows to fit, which is why they were not complete

2D TSOT

 

2xBSO 2E TSO is awaiting windows as if 2F FO W3400.

 

After that just need to convert, detail and repaint the other 2F FO, and get more frames to finish the 2C BSO

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Spent today doing C1 and electrification flashes then decided to reunite chassis and bodies and found I have lost a 2E chassis as a few boxes lopped off and single fan fitted.

 

AGHHHHHHH

 

So grabbed an open first, stripped it down and used that chassis, that FO will become a WR 2F FO.

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Well this was difficult to find. No piccies yet but so far I have 3 GWR150 coaches under way

 

BSK and 1 TSO in primer.

1 TSO being tidied up in the joins.

 

Excess parts BG is coming along well (in my MR mark 2 set with a  Triang Hornby RMB)

Also a BFK is coming along.

 

Just received from Replica 3 underframe kits for the older style cylinders for the GWR 150 set, 2 TSO interiors and 5 glazing packs.

 

Will be letter writing to Shawplan for the Laserglaze, tried phoning 20 times last week.

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Spent > £50 on Shawplan today.

 

Should be able to finish the WR set now except BSO.

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Now have 6 vehicles finished except for hand rails and gangways for my Western Region aircon set. The other 3 need 1xobtaining, 1xfinish converting and 1xMk 2 frames.

 

Worked out need 4 TSO frames and 5 TSO glazings to finish all my Airfix aircons.

 

Now need to work out IF I need any 2D BSOs or if I can sacrifice them for a 2E TSO.

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Hi!

Do you have a layout thread?

It would be great to see these complete rakes in action!

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2 hours ago, muddy water said:

Hi!

Do you have a layout thread?

It would be great to see these complete rakes in action!

 

My layout is part built buried in the garage and not moved on in 15 years

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No worries!

Great to see your modelling of carriages. 

I have taken notes for my own stock!

Keep up from the good work!

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Interesting work :good_mini:

I have some of the shawplan MK2 a-c frames, and for the base and am pondering about whether to use an Airfix mk2d, hack out the windows carve the solebar, or a Lima mk2b and accept the length issue

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2 hours ago, westie7 said:

Interesting work https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/emoticons/default_good_mini.gif

I have some of the shawplan MK2 a-c frames, and for the base and am pondering about whether to use an Airfix mk2d, hack out the windows carve the solebar, or a Lima mk2b and accept the length issue

 

What do you want to run it with?

 

What can you get cheap?

 

Lima are a lot of work, but underframe is OK. Airfix to 2C (too long for 2B) is more underframe work.

 

I know of 2Cs made from Bachmann 2A cut and shut, Lima 2B, Airfix 2D, Hornby 2E.

 

But I also worked out old Hornby 2s are doable but a lot of work.

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A mk2b and a mk2c are the same length. Both possible from a mk2d but with a lot of work.  I’ve had some success sorting out the body shape a ‘moulding seam scraper’.

 

The mk2z and mk2a were the shorties.

 

Griff

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Based on cheapness I was thinking of a Lima, frames overlaid, windows marked out then cut out. Some mods to the underframes and seam joins.

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2 hours ago, griffgriff said:

A mk2b and a mk2c are the same length. Both possible from a mk2d but with a lot of work.  I’ve had some success sorting out the body shape a ‘moulding seam scraper’.

 

The mk2z and mk2a were the shorties.

 

Griff

 

I thought the 2C was 6" longer, but just checked 2B 7" longer than 2_A

 

Limas do do up quite nicely .

 

But with WR 2C Airfix are better as they tended to run with aircon stock

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1 hour ago, westie7 said:

Based on cheapness I was thinking of a Lima, frames overlaid, windows marked out then cut out. Some mods to the underframes and seam joins.

 

One bit of advice, use Shawplan frames but remove the moulded internal frame then file the Lima window hole until frame is half width, that will be OK when sanded flat.

 

Lima holes are slightly too small

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9 hours ago, MJI said:

 

But with WR 2C Airfix are better as they tended to run with aircon stock

 

I purchased a few of Dennis Taylor's pictures before his 80's rail site went down,  mostly at Perth.

A mix of A's and B's with the odd C in there.

 

Cheers

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2 hours ago, westie7 said:

 

I purchased a few of Dennis Taylor's pictures before his 80's rail site went down,  mostly at Perth.

A mix of A's and B's with the odd C in there.

 

Cheers

 

Oh dear that will be a pain as the old Hornby 2s do not mix well looks wise with Lima, too late for me with a 2 x 2a, 1 x 2b, 5 or so 2c set. Too many Lima to change to something else.

 

Hornby 2/2a are more accurate in dimensions than Lima. Lima bodies can be lowered in height but didn't realise when I started and do not fancy doing it with a pile of resprayed.

 

I THINK they are about 1mm too high and require that removed from the bottom of the side and reprofiled.

 

One thing you COULD try for 2B and early 2C is Airfix with Shawplan frames, and lots of bits chopped off the underframe and MJT roof vents 2B don't have the hatch AFAIR.

 

Late 2C are difficult as no toilet frames available. They are NOT 2D sized, top is 2D location, bottom is vent style window (not aircon) bottom. If I do any more will experiment with plastic card.

 

But try a Lima and Hornby together and see what you think. You may be fine, or think aghhh. I can't happily run Airfix and LIma aircons together, so I don't. My ER set is 2D, my WR set 2CDEF, my MR set 2F and 3a (Lima Jouef). Not sure what to do for another WR aircon set as down to 2.5 BSOs and 2 FOs, and I would need at least 6 more TSOs, and 2 BFKs.

 

Remember that consitancy is more important than absolute accuracy, so my WR 2B set has no problems being Lima.

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If anyone wants some airfix mk2ds I have a rake of 8 I'm considering selling as my interest is WR before the aircons arrived.

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On 03/12/2019 at 11:09, MJI said:

 

My layout is part built buried in the garage and not moved on in 15 years

That’s a shame 

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After some investigation I need at least one more 2C MR rake and 1 or 2 WR Aircon sets, also found an ER set visiting WR with 2D TSO E5690.

 

Now trying to decide which set, two set of WR stock has TSOs 2F 2E 2D but more likely to go for 1 twin BFK set, or 2, one with 2A 2D BFK one with 2D 2D BFK.

 

One set I like is

47

1 RBR  *

2E FO #

2F TSO

2E TSO

2E TSO

2D BFK #

2A BFK *

2D TSO *

2E TSO #

2F TSO #

1 GUV *

 

* Got

# Can make

Need 3 more TSOs and another 47

 

Or I can sneeze and add a 45/1 a 2F FO 2A TSO and remove a couple of 2A (actually remove the 2A as it is a miswritten 2E 5258 and 5852) 7 vehicles the same

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