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Well this was difficult to find. No piccies yet but so far I have 3 GWR150 coaches under way

 

BSK and 1 TSO in primer.

1 TSO being tidied up in the joins.

 

Excess parts BG is coming along well (in my MR mark 2 set with a  Triang Hornby RMB)

Also a BFK is coming along.

 

Just received from Replica 3 underframe kits for the older style cylinders for the GWR 150 set, 2 TSO interiors and 5 glazing packs.

 

Will be letter writing to Shawplan for the Laserglaze, tried phoning 20 times last week.

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Now have 6 vehicles finished except for hand rails and gangways for my Western Region aircon set. The other 3 need 1xobtaining, 1xfinish converting and 1xMk 2 frames.

 

Worked out need 4 TSO frames and 5 TSO glazings to finish all my Airfix aircons.

 

Now need to work out IF I need any 2D BSOs or if I can sacrifice them for a 2E TSO.

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2 hours ago, muddy water said:

Hi!

Do you have a layout thread?

It would be great to see these complete rakes in action!

 

My layout is part built buried in the garage and not moved on in 15 years

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2 hours ago, westie7 said:

Interesting work :good_mini:

I have some of the shawplan MK2 a-c frames, and for the base and am pondering about whether to use an Airfix mk2d, hack out the windows carve the solebar, or a Lima mk2b and accept the length issue

 

What do you want to run it with?

 

What can you get cheap?

 

Lima are a lot of work, but underframe is OK. Airfix to 2C (too long for 2B) is more underframe work.

 

I know of 2Cs made from Bachmann 2A cut and shut, Lima 2B, Airfix 2D, Hornby 2E.

 

But I also worked out old Hornby 2s are doable but a lot of work.

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2 hours ago, griffgriff said:

A mk2b and a mk2c are the same length. Both possible from a mk2d but with a lot of work.  I’ve had some success sorting out the body shape a ‘moulding seam scraper’.

 

The mk2z and mk2a were the shorties.

 

Griff

 

I thought the 2C was 6" longer, but just checked 2B 7" longer than 2_A

 

Limas do do up quite nicely .

 

But with WR 2C Airfix are better as they tended to run with aircon stock

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1 hour ago, westie7 said:

Based on cheapness I was thinking of a Lima, frames overlaid, windows marked out then cut out. Some mods to the underframes and seam joins.

 

One bit of advice, use Shawplan frames but remove the moulded internal frame then file the Lima window hole until frame is half width, that will be OK when sanded flat.

 

Lima holes are slightly too small

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9 hours ago, MJI said:

 

But with WR 2C Airfix are better as they tended to run with aircon stock

 

I purchased a few of Dennis Taylor's pictures before his 80's rail site went down,  mostly at Perth.

A mix of A's and B's with the odd C in there.

 

Cheers

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2 hours ago, westie7 said:

 

I purchased a few of Dennis Taylor's pictures before his 80's rail site went down,  mostly at Perth.

A mix of A's and B's with the odd C in there.

 

Cheers

 

Oh dear that will be a pain as the old Hornby 2s do not mix well looks wise with Lima, too late for me with a 2 x 2a, 1 x 2b, 5 or so 2c set. Too many Lima to change to something else.

 

Hornby 2/2a are more accurate in dimensions than Lima. Lima bodies can be lowered in height but didn't realise when I started and do not fancy doing it with a pile of resprayed.

 

I THINK they are about 1mm too high and require that removed from the bottom of the side and reprofiled.

 

One thing you COULD try for 2B and early 2C is Airfix with Shawplan frames, and lots of bits chopped off the underframe and MJT roof vents 2B don't have the hatch AFAIR.

 

Late 2C are difficult as no toilet frames available. They are NOT 2D sized, top is 2D location, bottom is vent style window (not aircon) bottom. If I do any more will experiment with plastic card.

 

But try a Lima and Hornby together and see what you think. You may be fine, or think aghhh. I can't happily run Airfix and LIma aircons together, so I don't. My ER set is 2D, my WR set 2CDEF, my MR set 2F and 3a (Lima Jouef). Not sure what to do for another WR aircon set as down to 2.5 BSOs and 2 FOs, and I would need at least 6 more TSOs, and 2 BFKs.

 

Remember that consitancy is more important than absolute accuracy, so my WR 2B set has no problems being Lima.

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After some investigation I need at least one more 2C MR rake and 1 or 2 WR Aircon sets, also found an ER set visiting WR with 2D TSO E5690.

 

Now trying to decide which set, two set of WR stock has TSOs 2F 2E 2D but more likely to go for 1 twin BFK set, or 2, one with 2A 2D BFK one with 2D 2D BFK.

 

One set I like is

47

1 RBR  *

2E FO #

2F TSO

2E TSO

2E TSO

2D BFK #

2A BFK *

2D TSO *

2E TSO #

2F TSO #

1 GUV *

 

* Got

# Can make

Need 3 more TSOs and another 47

 

Or I can sneeze and add a 45/1 a 2F FO 2A TSO and remove a couple of 2A (actually remove the 2A as it is a miswritten 2E 5258 and 5852) 7 vehicles the same

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Currently glazing a 2F FO and a 2E TSO, also chasing Brian for the frames for the 2C BSO.

 

Should be able to post a few pictures next weekend of the 6 complete and 2 being worked on , all Airfix, all modified, and one donor is in two vehicles a 2E TSO and a 2D BFK

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Brian chasing is under way, reminder tonight as I want nearly £200 worth of detailing bits.

 

Just sticking window frames on W3415, the second FO in the WR set, but varnish is off.

 

Got E5637 and E5730 out of the Eastern region set to detail, so far only 1 TSO, the FK the BG and Bar are detailed, the remaining TSOs are as Airfix intended.

 

I am not starting on Aircon 3 until both Aircon 1 (last 2) and Aircon 2 (last 4) are ready for painting.

 

I also need some new gloss varnish as mine has disappeared.

 

Aircon 3 will have two consecutive conversions.

 

One is 2A BFK and 2D BFK

Other is 2D 2E 2F TSOs

 

Was hoping for a good long bash at things but overtime is required including tomorrow.

 

So sitting at a PC trying to work things out in my head.

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Another reminder sent to Shawplan for 8 set of frames and 17 sets of Laseglaze

 

Started on the 2 BFKs will take pictures but need to extract them from the telephone.

 

Started with a paint strip of a badly painted Hornby BFK, my fault.

 

The removal of the sides from the roof and end of the half BSO. I saw into the roof just above the strip and will file down.

 

Corridor side first remove 4mm between guards door and window 1, 4mm between the two windows and 8mm between window 2 and the double doors.

 

Airfix plastic glues really well so already assembling.

|D| |D| -4 [W] -4 [W] -8 |D|D|     

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Now going to job list the 3 rakes

 

Work in last week

 

Aircon 1 restof

2x 2D TSO E5637 E5648 in primer

 

Aircon 2 restof

1x 2F FO  W3415 in primer

 

Aircon 3 BFKs

(2A W14077 / 2D W14159)

 

making the B parts of W14159

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Dimensions

 

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Cutting it

 

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Glueing it together

 

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Other side

 

Struggline with the tools on the W7 boot, I may drop into XP to edit in future as easier.

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WR Aircon Set

 

2E TSO W5870 Basically complete

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2D BFK W14159 Basically complete

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2E TSO W5855 Basically complete

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2F FO W3400 Basically complete - undergoing glazing

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2F FO W3415under construction

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2E TSO W5879 Undergoing glazing

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2D TSOT W6615 - Basically complete except 1 window

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2C BSO W9461 - lots to do waiting on Brian from Shawplan for 2 years

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