doctor quinn Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Hi Everyone, I thought it's time to introduce my current layout project - "Industrivej" (Industry Way). i've wanted to build a Danish layout for a few years and I've been building and acquiring stock for a while. It's inspired by Allan Støvring-Nielsen's series of photo albums about goods traffic in Denmark "Med Gods På Krogen" and based on several industrial areas that are illustrated in the books. In my imagination it represents an industrial area on port land, close to the docks but without an actual waterfront on the bit I'm modelling. Below is a "Google Earth" style shot to show the track plan. Unfortuantely my photo-editing software wouldn't let me add labels to the photo but from the top left of the plan the first siding serves a metal recyclers(scrap yard). Moving to the right of that the siding at the top of the picture will serve a large modern warehouse and the "kick-back" road at the bottomwill serve an animal feeds silo. Hope to keep fairly regular updates going if anyone is interested, though I keep forgeting to take progrees photos of things I do! Nick 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south_tyne Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Hi Nick, Nice introduction to your project, it is a nice plan with plenty of operating potential. I have had a longstanding interest in Danish railways (and Denmark in general!) so will be looking forward to seeing this develop. Couple of questions if I may... What is the size of the layout? Is the layout set anywhere in particular? Thanks, David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 Hi David, Thanks for that, the scenic section is 1.5m x .39m or 59" x 15.5". I wanted the scenic section to be on one board. It's probably inspired mostly by Esbjerg, Aarhus & Odense as they have quite large industrial areas inland from the actual docks. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south_tyne Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Hi David, Thanks for that, the scenic section is 1.5m x .39m or 59" x 15.5". I wanted the scenic section to be on one board. It's probably inspired mostly by Esbjerg, Aarhus & Odense as they have quite large industrial areas inland from the actual docks. Nick Thanks for your reply Nick, it is very useful. I find Esbjerg a very interesting place so I will be following closely! What class of locos do you intend to use on the layout? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) Hi David I have a Tikob Hobby/Roco Mh, an Mx and a Roco My that I kitbashed into a "Miljorenoviert" loco that are all ready, there's also a Tikob/Athearn Mz IV and a Heljan My that will need finishing.. The Mh has a Tikob Hobby resin body shell on a shortened Roco V60 chassis and (British) MJT buffers. The My is a Roco one that came in the fictional Soundtraxx colour scheme, I got it off eBay cheaply as someone had had the sound chip out of it. I fitted a scratchbuilt exhauts silencer, electical ducts along the cant rail and Freya Model shunter's platforms Both are painted with Tamiya acrylics and lettered with KM-Text decals Nick Edited April 29, 2014 by doctor quinn 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south_tyne Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Thanks for sharing those pictures Nick. Absolutely love the Mh, probably my favourite Danish locos. Is it a widely available kit and was the chassis shortening job a difficult one? Thanks, David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class 74 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) Cool! I travelled couple of times through Denmark, love that red/black Nohab beasts! The trackplan is almost the same like my freightyard layout, good decision, hehe... Hope to see more! Regards Simon Edited May 2, 2014 by Class 74 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
unklian Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Will be following this for sure . I might have to pinch a few ideas for a minimum space Danish layout of my own ! Keep up the good work ! Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted May 5, 2014 Author Share Posted May 5, 2014 Once again thanks for the encouragement. The Mh body is still available from Togdillen in Copenhagen http://www.modeltog.dk/catalog/index.php?cPath=228_394 I don't think it's a very good seller since the Hobby Trade RTR one came out. The chassis modifications are not too difficult if you're OK with a hacksaw (chassis) and razor saw (for the PC Board). They used to do the Henschel version too, but Hobby Trade do that as well. I've made some progress on the scenery; looking form the left hand end we see the metals recycler (Stena) and towards the right hand side the silos and a non-rail served premises kitbashed for a Pola goods shed. Nick 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davep101 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Hiya nick, I didn't realise you was so far ahead with this, it's look very good! Cheers dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 Thanks Dave, As I hinted in the opening post I'm not very good at getting around to posting photos so i've made a bit more progress since those, pics to follow when the glue is dry! Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonas Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I have absolutely no idea about Danish railways, but this looks really promising. I will be following this one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) A little more progress, I've been doing ground cover, working from the back corners. the "soil" is the dust out of a wheel type tile cutter dried. Foliage is mainly static grass applied with my pound shop applicator and a little Woodland Scenics ground foam. The last two are a bit dark - I tried relying on just the lighting rig, while it's light enough for viewing, it's not bright enough for pictures. The carriageway and footway aren't fixed yet so the kerb is bowed. Nick Edited May 20, 2014 by doctor quinn 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) This week's progress has been on the metals recycler which has acquired a scrap conveyor from the well known materials handling equipment Walthers Inc of Milwaukee. As you can see the guys in the yard have lost not time in making use of it. I doubt that nice clean hard-standing will stay that way for long. Nick Edited May 27, 2014 by doctor quinn 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Just catching up, the layout is looking great, and the wagon weathering is top notch. Did I imagine it, or are you using RP25 wheels? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 Hi Jon, Thanks, the Eaos and the tanker in the pictures do have RP25 and I plan to change the other stock for the layout. As I've used Peco code 75 and kept flange ways on level crossings on the generous side, I shouldn't have to commit to rewheeling locos. Nick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Thanks Nick, It sounds like a sensible compromise, I need to order some replacement wheels to see what I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 (edited) Heljan and Roco locos have reasonable flanges, and I don't fancy rewheeling a 6 coupled chassis on the Mh. If I get any old school Lima, I'll rethink. Nick Edited June 9, 2014 by doctor quinn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted July 26, 2014 Author Share Posted July 26, 2014 Two months since the last update, I've progressed the paved areas and the animal feed silo. i decided to move the unloading point to the left hand end of the silos which adds visual interest but did mean I had to make a new elevator tower as the one one wasn't wide enough to look right. The elevator tower is a styrene wrapper around a wood core, it stll needs painting but I'm happy with it. It reaches up behind the lighting rig so the top can't be seen. The paving isn't complete yet, nor is the drop pit but I have cut out the paving to accomodate it. Nick 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Heljan and Roco locos have reasonable flanges, and I don't fancy rewheeling a 6 coupled chassis on the Mh. If I get any old school Lima, I'll rethink. Nick Did some experimenting, haven't got hold of any wagon wheels yet, but whereas Roco older wheels ride up in the shallow flange ways of Peco code 83, the wheels on my Rocky Rail MaK don't appear to. Code 75 avoids the problem, but I quite like the heavy look of code 83 for main lines. As mentioned elsewhere I seem to have acquired a Lint 41, in the Danish Arriva livery. It hasn't arrived yet, but I'm toying with the thought that I might build a generic Nord See facing layout, that might suit my Dutch, German and Any future Danish stock. Is there any wagonload freight left in Denmark now, or is it all DBS through haul? Ponder, ponder... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) Nice. Like the idea. I have a HO scale MT and a sound fitted MZ (my favourite Danish locos) from a company called Hobbytrade in red/grey boxes. They need something like this for a run out! What's the market like for locos in the Red/black era (again my fave). What's the most accurate and detailed brand to look out for? Edited July 31, 2014 by Igor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted August 4, 2014 Author Share Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the kind comments, guys. Jon, there was still some freight originating and terminating in Denmark when I went there in 2012. Koppers at Nyborg was still despatching bitumen tanks in thres and fours Aalborg Portland still loaded cement, I think. New cars are still handled to Vamdrup as far as I know - I was watching a YouTube video yesterday of the loco change at Tonder. You're right though wagon load has dropped off markedly. What there is of local (i.e. Danish) traffic is often handled by open-access operatrs like CFL Denmark, the Koppers traffic was, although at least some of it looked to be handed over at Nyborg station to DBS. I'm surpsised that Roco wheels don't like code 83, could it be the flanges are too wide for the flangeways? Igor, as regards what brands to look for, it's much the same as any other European models. I have Roco and Heljan class My and there's nothing really to chose between them - they run well and look good. Only Heljan make the lightweight class Mx, mine is my best runner, even better than Roco! Togmodelle made very nice models of both types of Mh. Lima used to do the Mz I and the MR dmu, both had nice mould work let down by 3 pole pancake motors and huge flanges. Modern versions of the MR from Rivarossi would be lovely, especailly as the number of possible liveries has at least doubled since Lima made them Rivarossi do a very nice Breuer tractor for that minimum space brewey layout! The only things to watch out for are; Fleischmann My which I don't think looks right, the front skirts are attached to the bogies too. All the ready to run Kofs in DSB livery that I've seen are reliveried German ones - the DSB ones were markedly different. I've also seen a green Roco "Mt" which is actaully a reliveried DB class 290; I believe it was done for Danish trainsets as was a DB V160 in red/black. The best thing I can recommend is to take a look at http://www.jernbanen.dk/ for inspiration, I'll sign off with a "work in progress" shot of the silo. Nick Edited August 4, 2014 by doctor quinn 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the kind comments, guys. Jon, there was still some freight originating and terminating in Denmark when I went there in 2012. Koppers at Nyborg was still despatching bitumen tanks in thres and fours Aalborg Portland still loaded cement, I think. New cars are still handled to Vamdrup as far as I know - I was watching a YouTube video yesterday of the loco change at Tonder. You're right though wagon load has dropped off markedly. What there is of local (i.e. Danish) traffic is often handled by open-access operatrs like CFL Denmark, the Koppers traffic was, although at least some of it looked to be handed over at Nyborg station to DBS. That's what I suspected. The CFL Nohabs look rather smart! However thanks for the suggested locations, I'll go search. I'm surpsised that Roco wheels don't like code 83, could it be the flanges are too wide for the flangeways?I think the peco code 83 us points have shallow flangeways which allow RP25 wheels to run on the edge of the flange, thus avoiding drop in with RP25-88 wheels, but it means the marginally deeper flanges on NEM stock climb up. This isn't a problem with regular streamline, either code 75 or 100, where it seems the flangeways are deeper. B2B and flange widths don't seem to be a problem. I guess Tillig would be a solution, but I think I'll probably stick to code 75. I'll sign off with a "work in progress" shot of the silo. Silo on bench.JPG Nick Coming along nicely. (Edited for stupid autoincorrect) Edited August 4, 2014 by Jon Gwinnett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south_tyne Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Hi Nick, Continuing to follow your progress with interest, I am hoping to have a trip to Denmark later in the year and your little layout keeps prodding me to sort it out! Thanks for your informative info about models available... oh how I'd love an MH class... Can I justify it... hmmm. Thanks and keep up the good work! David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted August 9, 2014 Author Share Posted August 9, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the kind words guys. Today's little project, fitted in around the usual Saturday stuff, was a set of hopper discharge grates for the silos. They're made from Evergreen 1.5mm angle with 0.25mm x 4mm strip to add depth, the bars are 0.3mm handrail wire. The guy from the silos seems to like them. (So much he's not noticed he's standing in something.) Nick Edited August 9, 2014 by doctor quinn 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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