Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[The Johnster]

J7328; that's a fine spray of brake block dust!

[LNERGE]

On 10/02/2019 at 15:01, DaveF said:

I suppose this afternoon's photos could be described as being around the West Midlands.

 

Southam Road and Harbury 47375 up freight Aug 80 J7178.jpg

 

 

 

So much in this photo to look at. The location cabinet with signal combined, wet spots in both roads, warwells and ventilated vans without ventilators. What are the vans?

[brushman47544]

J7322 can't be 25256, which had the later body style. Since 25156 was the same, I suspect it's 25056.

[62613]

2 minutes ago, LNERGE said:

So much in this photo to look at. The location cabinet with signal combined, wet spots in both roads, warwells and ventilated vans without ventilators. What are the vans?

I've seen a picture of a van similar to the first one, with the end vent plated in, in one of Dave Larkins' wagon books which, at the moment, I can't find.

[73c]

The DMU in J7328 looks like it's been 'off roading '  across a field!

[brian daniels]

Vans are probably a couple of these old Banana vans that the MoD used as barrier vehicles for ammo and these will probably go up to Kineton.

[Oldddudders]

22 hours ago, Unicorn1 said:

Hello Dave

The S&KLR photos took me back to the time when I volunteered there in the early '70s. as a member of the LCGB .

 

 

My one visit was in 1975, when a chap I knew slightly called Malcolm was guard for our (special) train. I was told he was LCGB Member No 7!

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Bottesford photo’s, which are full,of interest and nostalgia. In particular, a down parcels train, in February, 1981, with most likely 25056 hauling it. What a good selection of vehicles which make up the train.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

 

 

[Market65]

3 hours ago, 73c said:

The DMU in J7328 looks like it's been 'off roading '  across a field!

 

It, somehow, never looks quite right on a model if weathered in that way, just as if someone has carelessly sprayed paint across the chassis catching the lower part of the body. But, as that lovely photo’ confirms, it looks so right on the prototype. Perhaps it’s a question of scale, Im not completely sure.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

[Fat Controller]

6 hours ago, 62613 said:

I've seen a picture of a van similar to the first one, with the end vent plated in, in one of Dave Larkins' wagon books which, at the moment, I can't find.

Three types of 'BR Standard' van didn't have end vents:-

10t Insulated Meat Van

12t Vanwide with additional side vents (only 6 built)

12t Banana Van.

The most likely would be the latter; a number found employment either as 'fitted heads' or Barrier wagons.

[35A]

7 hours ago, brushman47544 said:

J7322 can't be 25256, which had the later body style. Since 25156 was the same, I suspect it's 25056.

 

Agreed. If you look at the following image that I found (from Richard Davies' collection on Flickr), taken from the same end, the scratch above the secondman's side buffer and the wear to the paint below the middle windscreen match in both photographs.

 

 

 

 

[DaveF]

 

Today's photos are at Birmingham International, taken on a visit to the Motor Show in October 1980.

 

 

Birmingham International 304 019 special New Street to International Oct 80 J7255.jpg

 

 

Birmingham International 85024 up Oct 80 J7257.jpg

 

 

Birmingham International Oct 80 J7263.jpg

 

 

 

Birmingham International 47008 up special Oct 80 J7261.jpg

 

 

Birmingham International 310046 Euston to Birmingham Oct 80 J7268.jpg

 

 

David

 

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the photo’s of Birmingham International. They are all so full interest, and all show off so well how things really were back in BR blue days. More please.

I particularly like J7257, of 85024 on an up service. Such a long train of blue and grey Mk1’s! 12 - 13 coaches?

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

1986 and 1987 Carlisle today.

 

The pink marks on the second and third photos are film faults.

 

Carlisle Class 40 D200 40122 Carlisle to Leeds 26th Aug 86 C7953.jpg

 

 

Carlisle Class 143 26th Aug 86 C7965

 

Carlisle 87035 down 26th Aug 86 C7970

 

Carlisle 86234 Glasgow to Bristol 14th April 87 C8290.jpg

 

 

Carlisle Wapping sidings 27050 26027 31118 9th May 87 C8417  Taken from a train.

 

 

David

Edited February 13, 2019 by DaveF

[eastwestdivide]

C7953 - Pretty sure that green 40 was a regular performer on the Leeds/Settle/Carlisle runs around then.

Certainly I photographed it in 1987 and there are plenty of flickr and other photos too

[DaveF]

37 minutes ago, eastwestdivide said:

C7953 - Pretty sure that green 40 was a regular performer on the Leeds/Settle/Carlisle runs around then.

Certainly I photographed it in 1987 and there are plenty of flickr and other photos too

 

It was usually seen on the S&C workings, it also used to work along the Cumbrian Coast.

 

David

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Carlisle photo’s. They bring back many happy memories. I particularly like the first one of the celebrity class 40 D200/40122, on a  Carlisle to Leeds train on the 26th August, 1886. What a fine sight the 40 makes as it powers away from the station. 

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

Some photos taken in Leicestershire for this afternoon.

 

The one at Eastwell shows the trackbed of the narrow gauge iron ore quarry line.   

At one time I would have known exactly where it was on the photo, now I am less sure but it is either in the background along the raised hedge or along the hedge to the right centre and then across the foreground field - and I haven't found a detailed enough map today to check it.

 

Thanks very much to luckymucklebackit for his investigation using old maps,  I can now state that the line ran from left to right across the centre of the field in the foreground.

 

As a general rule fields in the area which are lower than the surrounding land have been quarried.

 

The second photo shows the remains of Tilton station on a snowy day. It served the village of Tilton on the Hill.

As everyone knows it was on the Great Northern and London and North Western Joint line between Melton Mowbray and Market Harborough.

 

The third photo of the bridge at Bagworth and Ellistown is on the Midland Railway near Coalville.

The yellow car just beyond the bridge on the right is Dad's Citroen GS.

 

The last three photos at Leicester were taken on the way home from the Motor Show at Birmingham, on the same day as the Birmingham International photos we had a couple of days ago.

 

Eastwell White Lodge remains of narow gauge ironstone line Oct 71 J2779.jpg

 

 

Tilton March 75 C1939

 

 

Bagworth and Ellistown MR overbridge July 80 J7019.jpg

 

 

Leicester Class 31 Birmingham to Cambridge and Class 117 L421 Oct 80 J7274.jpg

 

 

Leicester Class 31 Birmingham to Cambridge Oct 80 J7275.jpg

 

 

Leicester Class 45 Sheffield to St Pancras Oct 80 J7276.jpg

 

 

David

Edited February 14, 2019 by DaveF
Second edit to add information.

[luckymucklebackit]

Hi Dave - the NLS side by side maps show the narrow gauge line and the corresponding present day view, it may be possible to work it out from there

 

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15&lat=52.8471&lon=-0.8564&layers=168&right=BingHyb

 

Jim

[brushman47544]

J7274. What was Southall based Pressed Steel DMU set L421 doing at Leicester, I wonder? Where were they overhauled?

[eastwestdivide]

1 hour ago, brushman47544 said:

J7274. What was Southall based Pressed Steel DMU set L421 doing at Leicester, I wonder? Where were they overhauled?

To add to that, it's a 117 rather than a 115 as per the caption.

I'd guess a London area (Reading rather than Southall by then?) DMU might have made it to Birmingham on a relief or something, then got stabled at Tyseley and then got chucked out on a Birmingham-Leicester local.

I've a photo somewhere of a 3-car DMU in the Oxford/Reading area substituting for a missing or very delayed inter-regional (what's now CrossCountry) between Birmingham and the SR.

 

Later edit: come to think of it, that photo might be the other way round, a Tyseley 3-car reaching Reading on a relief for a late-running southbound Poole or Brighton service. Either way, the precedent is there.

Edited February 14, 2019 by eastwestdivide

[DaveF]

6 hours ago, luckymucklebackit said:

Hi Dave - the NLS side by side maps show the narrow gauge line and the corresponding present day view, it may be possible to work it out from there

 

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15&lat=52.8471&lon=-0.8564&layers=168&right=BingHyb

 

Jim

 

Jim,

 

Thanks very much for the link.  

 

I can now say that the line ran from left to right across the field in the foreground, according to the map it terminated at the hedge on the right but I think that at some time it went a bit further into the next field.

 

There has also been some landscaping of the fields in the photo to sort out ground levels since the photo was taken - which has been done in a lot of the old iron orequarries, so the bank in the distance at the back of the field is now lower. It has often been done to improve drainage.

 

By the way, I've driven along that road probably over a hundred times during the 1970s so I shouldn't have forgotten it!.

 

David

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I love the Leicestershire photo’s. All of which are full of interest and nostalgia.

I particularly like J7274, at Leicester with a class 31 on a Birmingham

to Cambridge service and a class 117 DMU L421, in October, 1980. 

 

With warmest regards ,

 

Rob

 

 

 

 

[keefer]

J7274 classic 80s BR blue, can just imagine myself there!

Loco ticking over on a rake of mk1s and the DMU gently smoking away until it moves, when you'd get clouds of blue exhaust all over the place

[35A]

To echo, the Leicester photos are very evocative, especially as I was based there a couple of years later - by which time very little had changed. It was the year that HSTs started to appear in place of the 45s and stock. There was also the nightly appearance (weekdays) of a class 50 on a freight from Lawley Street, that dropped off at Leicester and went onto the fuelling point, not to mention the summer delights of pairs of 20s on the "Jolly Fisherman". Happy days!