Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[DaveF]

 

Today we visit the ECML at several locations between Northallerton and Newcastle.

 

They were taken over a twenty one year period.

 

 

Northallerton Class 45 Newcastle to Liverpool 31st July 1986 C7769.jpg

 

 

Sunderland Bridge 56056 down coal 18th Oct 97 _C23138.jpg

 

 

Croxdale Class 40 down parcels 5th Aug 76 C2956.jpg

 

 

Durham 143025 Newcastle to Durham 31st July 1986 C7741.jpg

 

 

Bensham 143005 Carlisle to Newcastle 5th Aug 86 C7883.jpg

 

 

David

[talisman56]

C7769 - Second class really meant second class on that train - not even any air-con (unless you opened the window ventilators)...

[Market65]

6 hours ago, DaveF said:

Northallerton Class 45 Newcastle to Liverpool 31st July 1986 C7769.

 Hi, Dave. I’m sorry to be late but I’ve been ill today, but a bit better now, and I love the ECML photo’s from between Northallerton and Newcastle. 

The first  one  at Northallerton with a class 45 on a Newcastle to Liverpool train on the 31st, July, 1986, is most atmospheric and also shows that the lower white lining on Mk2 stock was always perfectly aligned. I’m thinking of the Bachmann Mk2’s and how they do not align up like they should.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

 

PS Sorry about the quote but I thought I was copying out the necessary details. 

Edited February 15, 2019 by Market65

[Davexoc]

4 hours ago, talisman56 said:

C7769 - Second class really meant second class on that train - not even any air-con (unless you opened the window ventilators)...

You're assuming that is a 45/1 up front.

 

Dave

[DaveF]

Stoke Bank on the ECML for today, once again at Swayfield.

 

 

Swayfield Class 37 up April 70 J2093

 

 

Swayfield Class 40 252? up Aug 71 J2735

 

 

Swayfield Class 47 1507 up Feb 73 J3151

 

 

Swayfield 254002 Kings X to Edinburgh June 80 J6984.jpg

 

 

Swayfield 55016 York to Kings X June 80 J6986.jpg

 

 

David

Edited February 17, 2019 by DaveF

[talisman56]

J2093 has a lounge first in third position in the train...

 

J2735 has what looks like a Gresley Buffet included.

Edited February 16, 2019 by talisman56

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. You’ve surpassed yourself today with those fantastic photo’s of the ECML at Swayfield. All so interesting and full of formations to make anyone who has an interest in carriages sit up and take note.

talisman56 is quite right about the Lounge First, Mk1 in J2093, and a lovely “Wooden Wall” Gresley buffet car in J2735, which is the forth vehicle in that formation. 

And what a glorious sight of a Deltic plus eight in J6986, with 55016 on a York to Kings Cross express in June, 1980.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

23 minutes ago, talisman56 said:

J2093 has a lounge first in third position in the train...

 

 

 

The third coach is a Mk 1 Lounge First Corridor. There were two of them,  SC14900 and 14901.

 

They were converted in 1971.

 

Some details at:  http://www.eastbank.org.uk/br_coaches.htm

 

You need to look at the 7th coach on the page. It gives further details.

Edit - Rob  and talisman56 beat me to it.

David

Edited February 16, 2019 by DaveF

[50A55B]

J2735 looks like it could be the Highwayman.

[35A]

J2093 - very interesting to see an English Electric Type 3 on the main line in 1970. I don't recall ever seeing one, apart from the odd one on a charter train, certainly in the last half of the year. However, that looks like a service train. Curious.

 

J2735 - I agree with the above. Given the formation and the arrangement of the discs I would definitely think that it was "The Highwayman". However, it can't be 251, as that had been blue for some time by August 1971. By then only 252, 254 and 257 of the York batch were still green. I favour 252, as that was the "roughest" looking of the three. 254 and 257 were nowhere near as shabby as 252.

 

As always, though, lovely Swayfield shots. Takes me back every time!

[DaveF]

For this Sunday morning the time machine takes us to the North Yorkshire Moors Railway at various dates.

 

 

Goathland J27 2392 July 73 J3225

 

 

Grosmont D821 July 83 C6064

 

 

Grosmont Class 14 D9529 and D9520 July 83 C6065

 

 

Goathland Jubilee 5690 Leander July 83 C6076

 

 

Grosmont 841 Greene King 29th April 84 C6473

 

 

Grosmont Hymek D7029 2nd Aug 86 C7833

 

 

David

[DaveF]

Noe it's time for some photos from Cramlington on the ECML in Northumberland.

 

 

Cramlington Class 37 down oil tanks Aug 80 J7066.jpg

 

 

Cramlington Class 101 Morpeth to Newcastle Aug 80 J7069.jpg

 

 

Cramlington 55012 Aberdeen to Kings X Aug 80 J7067.jpg

 

 

Cramlington 47519 Edinburgh to Newcastle Aug 80 J7071.jpg

 

 

Cramlington Class 254 Inverness to Kings X 10th Nov 84 C6662.jpg

 

 

 

David

Edited February 17, 2019 by DaveF

[Rob F]

Great photos , as usual. What's going on with the middle windows on the TSO immediately behind the buffet in J7071?

[iands]

7 minutes ago, Rob F said:

Great photos , as usual. What's going on with the middle windows on the TSO immediately behind the buffet in 

Might have temporary perspex windows fitted due to broken/shattered window(s). Not seen them fitted for a number of years, but then I can't recall the last time I saw a broken window on a train in service.

[DaveF]

1 hour ago, Rob F said:

Great photos , as usual. What's going on with the middle windows on the TSO immediately behind the buffet in J7071?

 

57 minutes ago, iands said:

Might have temporary perspex windows fitted due to broken/shattered window(s). Not seen them fitted for a number of years, but then I can't recall the last time I saw a broken window on a train in service.

 

My answer is that I haven't got a clue.

 

I have corrected the caption though, it is actually C6662 of an Inverness to Kings X HST in November 1984.

 

David

[jonny777]

On 14/02/2019 at 16:41, eastwestdivide said:

 

 

Later edit: come to think of it, that photo might be the other way round, a Tyseley 3-car reaching Reading on a relief for a late-running southbound Poole or Brighton service. Either way, the precedent is there.

 

A Tyseley 3-car unit had regular workings to Reading in the 1970s, and possibly well into the 1980s although I was not there as often in the latter decade. 

 

I'm not sure which workings these were, but I saw quite a number there.  I even saw one set at Paddington at some point in the 1970s, presumably borrowed by Reading. 

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. Firstly the shattered window looks suspiciously like a reflection to me, it’s on the body side as well as the windows - spreading onto an adjacent window.

 

Anyway, I like the NYMR photos, and will be on that line a little later this year again. The Hymek in the last photo’ looks particularly good at the head of an arriving train on the 2nd of August, 1986.

 

The ECML photo’s at Cramlington, are a particularly excellent set which recall so perfectly BR blue days. In particular, J7067, with Deltic, 55012, on an Aberdeen to Kings Cross train in August, 1980. It’s interesting that the train is composed solely of old Mk1 carriages which cannot have been giving a good impression of rail travel by that late date.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[Enterprisingwestern]

20 hours ago, 35A said:

J2093 - very interesting to see an English Electric Type 3 on the main line in 1970. I don't recall ever seeing one, apart from the odd one on a charter train, certainly in the last half of the year. However, that looks like a service train. Curious.

 

J2735 - I agree with the above. Given the formation and the arrangement of the discs I would definitely think that it was "The Highwayman". However, it can't be 251, as that had been blue for some time by August 1971. By then only 252, 254 and 257 of the York batch were still green. I favour 252, as that was the "roughest" looking of the three. 254 and 257 were nowhere near as shabby as 252.

 

As always, though, lovely Swayfield shots. Takes me back every time!

 

I used to do a fair bit of my spotting during the mid week at Doncaster, and whilst not common at all, EE type 3's were seen on the main line, I remember a Thornaby example, in similar condition to the one in the pic, being taken off a Tees Yard - Decoy freight somewher north of York and still being on the front leaving Doncaster.

Back specifically to J2093, the FA cup final was held in April 1970 between Leeds and Chelsea,  going by the "secondary" nature of the mk1's, could it have been a footex?

 

Mike.

[DaveF]

On 14/02/2019 at 15:39, DaveF said:

Some photos taken in Leicestershire for this afternoon.

 

 

 

 

 

Leicester Class 31 Birmingham to Cambridge and Class 117 L421 Oct 80 J7274.jpg

 

David

On 14/02/2019 at 16:35, brushman47544 said:

J7274. What was Southall based Pressed Steel DMU set L421 doing at Leicester, I wonder? Where were they overhauled?

 

On 14/02/2019 at 16:41, eastwestdivide said:

To add to that, it's a 117 rather than a 115 as per the caption.

I'd guess a London area (Reading rather than Southall by then?) DMU might have made it to Birmingham on a relief or something, then got stabled at Tyseley and then got chucked out on a Birmingham-Leicester local.

I've a photo somewhere of a 3-car DMU in the Oxford/Reading area substituting for a missing or very delayed inter-regional (what's now CrossCountry) between Birmingham and the SR.

 

Later edit: come to think of it, that photo might be the other way round, a Tyseley 3-car reaching Reading on a relief for a late-running southbound Poole or Brighton service. Either way, the precedent is there.

 

I've thought of a reason for this Class 117 set being at Leicester.

 

Around this time BR altered the Midland line timetable, running fewer trains  from Sheffield to St Pancras via Nottingham.  They were replaced by a dmu service from Nottingham to Leicester where passengers had to change for London.

 

Fort some reason it was not a popular decision.

 

I think the dmus had to brought from somewhere else to cover the workings as there were no spare ones available in the area.

 

Sadly I don't have timetables for that period.

 

I think that somewhere in the thread there are photos of these dmus at Kegworth etc.

 

David

[talisman56]

18 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

I used to do a fair bit of my spotting during the mid week at Doncaster, and whilst not common at all, EE type 3's were seen on the main line, I remember a Thornaby example, in similar condition to the one in the pic, being taken off a Tees Yard - Decoy freight somewher north of York and still being on the front leaving Doncaster.

Back specifically to J2093, the FA cup final was held in April 1970 between Leeds and Chelsea,  going by the "secondary" nature of the mk1's, could it have been a footex?

 

Mike.

 

My experiences of footexes were that the accommodation was less than pristine* - I don't recall first class being an option, though...

 

*at the start of the journey - even less after...

Edited February 18, 2019 by talisman56

[DaveF]

Northumberland again today, this time at Cambois on the north side of Blyth harbour.

 

 

Cambois Blyth west staithes July 80 J7040.jpg  Blyth A and B power stations behind the staithes.

 

 

Cambois  Blyth west staithes sidings May 81 J7391.jpg

 

 

Cambois CEGB Ruston 48DS shunter and ballast wagon May 81 J7392.jpg  on CEGB track at Blyth Power stations.

 

 

Cambois Class 37 May 81 J7393.jpg

 

 

Cambois Class 37 May 81 J7394.jpg

 

 

David

Edited February 18, 2019 by DaveF

[73c]

J7394. What a brilliant photo!

[Fat Controller]

J7392: the little shunter coupled to the ballast hopper was owned by a company called Grant-Lyon-Eagre, I believe; they were a Scunthorpe-based subsidiary of British Steel, specialising in track work at industrial sites. The shunter had worked on installation works at Eurotunnel's Cheriton terminal, and Dolland's Moor yard back in 1992/3.; it was positively dwarfed by some of the German locos it worked alongside. 

[corneliuslundie]

A really magnificent collection today. What the railway used to be all about. Far too special for just a "like".

Jonathan

[Clive Mortimore]

20 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

I used to do a fair bit of my spotting during the mid week at Doncaster, and whilst not common at all, EE type 3's were seen on the main line, I remember a Thornaby example, in similar condition to the one in the pic, being taken off a Tees Yard - Decoy freight somewher north of York and still being on the front leaving Doncaster.

Back specifically to J2093, the FA cup final was held in April 1970 between Leeds and Chelsea,  going by the "secondary" nature of the mk1's, could it have been a footex?

 

Mike.

And David Webb's goal in the reply was the bestest ever goal......not in the artistry of most good goals but in the importance as a then young Chelsea supporter when half my school mates were Leeds supporters.