Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[The Pilotman]

12 minutes ago, eastwestdivide said:

Possibly Russel coal containers on 4-wheel container flats?

 

Yes, definitely Russell coal containers on FPA flats, but I’m not sure what the last but one wagon is. Another bogie steel wagon, perhaps?

[Mark Saunders]

2 minutes ago, Western Aviator said:

 

Yes, definitely Russell coal containers on FPA flats, but I’m not sure what the last but one wagon is. Another bogie steel wagon, perhaps?

 

Looks like a BBA the deep solebar and ends plus the deck edge in white!

[35A]

Just to pick up on last Thursday's selection - the SLOA "Flying Scotsman" Diamond Jubilee trains:  I travelled on one and photographed the others. The loco on the support coaches (and which returned the trains from York to King's Cross) on all three weekends was 47 158 "Henry Ford", rather than 47 584, as captioned on J7832.

 

In view of the 21st century concern over trespassing on the track, with particular regard to steam specials and to this particular loco, I thought that you might like to see this (particularly poor - for which I apologise but it's the only one that I've got as an illustration) image that I took at Newark during the water stop on the weekend that I travelled (27th February 1983). The entire trackbed of the up and down ECML was awash with enthusiasts, services were brought to a standstill - so not a recent phenomenon at all!

 

 

[DaveF]

 

Photos at York from 1979, 1986 and 1987 today.

 

I've always enjoyed visiting York station, though in the days of slide film it wasn't always possible to photograph every train - several times I had to buy extra film while I was there.

 

In film days the station bookstall usually stocked slide film.

 

I'm not sure I'd want to travel from York to Manchester in a Class 142.

 

 

York Class 55 Berwick on Tweed to Kings X Penmanshiel Tunnel collapse Sat 7 Apr 79 C4383.jpg

 

 

York 3rd Aug 86 C7856

 

 

York 47491 Newcastle to Kings X 3rd Aug 86 C7865

 

 

York 43092 down 13th July 87 C8672

 

York 142074 York to Manchester 13th July 87 C8682.jpg

 

 

David

 

[melmerby]

1 hour ago, DaveF said:

I'm not sure I'd want to travel from York to Manchester in a Class 142.

 

David

 

Until recently you could also do Newcastle/Sunderland to Carlisle in one.

Metrocentre to Central station was more than enough for me!

Edited April 24, 2019 by melmerby

[ba14eagle]

22 hours ago, Mark Saunders said:

 

Looks like a BBA the deep solebar and ends plus the deck edge in white!

Think its a "Perch" rail carrying wagon

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the photo’s of York. They are all so full of interest and nostalgia. I was only there last Saturday, and there are still 142’s in service to Harrogate and Hull. In C7856, on the 3rd August, 1986, you can see how weedy the tracks  in those bay platforms were and it would seem privatisation is not solely responsible for such things. But it hasn’t helped either. 

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

 

Some more photos at Carlisle between 1986 and 1988.

 

As usual it was cloudy on each visit.

 

 

Carlisle 87002 and 86415 up freight 26th Aug 86 C7966.jpg

 

 

Carlisle 08690 and 47553 le Leeds to Carlisle 1 Sept 87 C9091.jpg

 

 

Carlisle 47346 down freight 1 Sept 87 C9105.jpg

 

 

Carlisle 90004 12th April 88 C9412.jpg

 

 

Carlisle 37184 down empty oil 12th April 88 C9423.jpg

 

 

David

Edited April 28, 2019 by DaveF

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Carlisle photo’s which are full of interest. In particular, C9412 of class 90, 90004, on the 12th April, 1988. It’s a fine portrait of that 90 and provides some useful detail for the forthcoming Bachmann model.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[keefer]

C9412 - not every loco has to be weathered to within an inch of its life. They can all be brand new or ex-works at some point!

[The Johnster]

An ex-works loco will pick up dirt on it’s first duty, especially in wet or very dry, dusty, weather, and in steam days it could get pretty mucky before it even left the shed!  This is the fun of weathering; you can apply it with a very light touch, go overboard, or anything on the spectrum. 

 

Happily, the days when RTR models were presented in shiny ex works condition, polished wheel rims and gleaming motion, are gone; most nowadays seem to look as if they’ve been in service a few days.  A light wash of your favourite weathering muck to take the sheen off still makes a big difference, though, IMHO.  One or two items in ‘out of the box’ condition will emphasise the point, especially for ‘era 4/5’ modellers when a lot of new and recently refurbished stock was about. 

[DaveF]

 

A bit later than usual today as I had a visit from irishswissernie (Ernie Brack) this afternoon.

 

Today's photos are (I think) the very last I have of Clapham Junction.  As they are the last ones they are also the least good (in terms of photographic quality).

 

I hope they are still enjoyable.

 

The first four were taken on a day out in London, I think I'd travelled there on a WBHS (Whitley Bay Horticultural Society)  special from Cramlington with some friends.

 

The last photo was taken just before I flew to Zurich to spend a month in Switzerland to ride on trains and take photos.

 

Clapham Junction Class 455 5909 down 21st Nov 87 C9263.jpg

 

 

Clapham Junction 73118 Gatwick to Victoria 21st Nov 87 C9267.jpg

 

 

Clapham Junction Class 421 1717 up pass 21st Nov 87 C9270.jpg

 

 

Clapham Junction Class 423 3016 up 21st Nov 87 C9276.jpg

 

 

Clapham Junction Class 442 2404 27th July 88 C9567.jpg

 

 

David

 

 

 

 

Edited April 26, 2019 by DaveF

[BernardTPM]

That Wessex looks swish - still got two luggage compartments too.

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Clapham Junction photo’s and it’s a shame if they are the last ones. In the first one of a class 455, number 5909, on a down service, on the 21st, November, 1987, the unit is in blue and grey and looking quite smart apart from the connecting gangway on the cab front, which is looking quite grim and dirty. Quite a contrast to the class 442 in the last photo’ which is clean and modern. Admittedly it does not have the burden of a connecting gangway.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

 

[RFS]

2 minutes ago, Market65 said:

Hi, Dave. I like the Clapham Junction photo’s and it’s a shame if they are the last ones. In the first one of a class 455, number 5909, on a down service, on the 21st, November, 1987, the unit is in blue and grey and looking quite smart apart from the connecting gangway on the cab front, which is looking quite grim and dirty. Quite a contrast to the class 442 in the last photo’ which is clean and modern. Admittedly it does not have the burden of a connecting gangway.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

 

 

The 442 is looking clean and modern because it's brand-new and may not yet have begun revenue service. They were first introduced in 1988, the year of the photo. The 488s do have connecting gangways, but it's clean on this example as it's new …..

[DaveF]

 

Photos on the Newcastle to Carlisle line in the 1980s this afternoon.

 

 

Wylam 143021 Berwick to Carlisle 5th March 88 C9324.jpg

 

 

Dilston crossing 143023 Hexham to Newcastle 1st Aug 87 C8718.jpg

 

 

Dilston crossing east of 4771 Green Arrow Hexham to Darlington via the coast 5th July 87 C8626.jpg

 

 

Hexham goods shed 9th March 85 C6729

 

 

Hexham 4771 Green Arrow l e from Darlington to Hexham   Darlington Bank Top 100 anniversary 5th July 87 C8607.jpg

 

 

David

 

 

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Newcastle to Carlisle line photo’s which are most interesting and nostalgic. The second photo’ at Dilston crossing, C8718, with class 143, 143023, on a Hexham to Newcastle service, on the 1st August, 1987, shows a wet spot on the other track, which was there just under a month earlier in C8626 with V2 Green Arrow. Also, in those two photo’s is a bit of a curiosity. From the right are two wires/cables. They appear to end in mid air! I could be seeing  things - my eyes are not getting any younger. If anyone can provide an explanation I would be most grateful.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

 

 

[DaveF]

18 minutes ago, Market65 said:

Hi, Dave. I like the Newcastle to Carlisle line photo’s which are most interesting and nostalgic. The second photo’ at Dilston crossing, C8718, with class 143, 143023, on a Hexham to Newcastle service, on the 1st August, 1987, shows a wet spot on the other track, which was there just under a month earlier in C8626 with V2 Green Arrow. Also, in those two photo’s is a bit of a curiosity. From the right are two wires/cables. They appear to end in mid air! I could be seeing  things - my eyes are not getting any younger. If anyone can provide an explanation I would be most grateful.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

 

 

 

Rob,

 

The wires actually drop into the undergrowth, I presume they then run along the ground.

 

David

[Market65]

Thank you, Dave for your reply. It seems a bit of a strange situation only I cannot recall a location where wires drop down to the ground in that way. I think they usually are routed down the pole in question before making  their way along the ground in trunking. I’ll be looking carefully at some other photo’s to see if I can find any others.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

[iands]

13 hours ago, Market65 said:

Thank you, Dave for your reply. It seems a bit of a strange situation only I cannot recall a location where wires drop down to the ground in that way. I think they usually are routed down the pole in question before making  their way along the ground in trunking. I’ll be looking carefully at some other photo’s to see if I can find any others.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

Hi Rob,

Given the angle of the photo I assume it was taken from Dilston overbridge. It looks to me that the pole/cable route "is between jobs", i.e. the pole route has partly been done away with, but the surface concrete trough route hasn't yet been installed. it looks like the aerial cables (the two thicker black ones) are still on the pole route to take them over the road crossing Dilston overbridge. When the SCT is installed, along the track and "through" the bridge, the aerial cables will be replaced with other cables in the SCT and the two poles (out of shot) will be recovered (cut down). Dave's photo captures a "temporary" state of the cable infrastructure, however, we all know what that in railway terms "temporary" can mean days, weeks, months or even years!

 

Hope this helps.

[DaveF]

14 minutes ago, iands said:

Hi Rob,

Given the angle of the photo I assume it was taken from Dilston overbridge. It looks to me that the pole/cable route "is between jobs", i.e. the pole route has partly been done away with, but the surface concrete trough route hasn't yet been installed. it looks like the aerial cables (the two thicker black ones) are still on the pole route to take them over the road crossing Dilston overbridge. When the SCT is installed, along the track and "through" the bridge, the aerial cables will be replaced with other cables in the SCT and the two poles (out of shot) will be recovered (cut down). Dave's photo captures a "temporary" state of the cable infrastructure, however, we all know what that in railway terms "temporary" can mean days, weeks, months or even years!

 

Hope this helps.

 

Hi Ian, 

 

I can confirm it was taken from Dilston overbridge.

 

David

[DaveF]

 

This morning's photos are once again from Sewstern and Market Overton, beyond the end of the High Dyke branch on ex British Steel lines.

 

D2381 was one of Bill McAlpine's locos.

 

 

Sewstern 03 D2381 with Flying Scotsman spare boiler July 73 J3237.jpg

 

 

Sewstern A3 4472 Flying Scotsman Oct 73 C1433.jpg

 

 

Sewstern 03 D2381 shunting Barclay Harlaxton and LMS van Oct 74 J4054.jpg

 

 

Market Overton Smith Rodley steam crane Oct73 C1417.jpg

 

Market Overton A3 4472 Flying Scotsman Oct 73 C1437.jpg

 

 

Market Overton Avonside Fred Oct 73 C1419.jpg

 

 

David

 

[iands]

52 minutes ago, DaveF said:

 

This morning's photos are once again from Sewstern and Market Overton, beyond the end of the High Dyke branch on ex British Steel lines.

 

D2381 was one of Bill McAlpine's locos.

 

 

Sewstern 03 D2381 with Flying Scotsman spare boiler July 73 J3237.jpg

 

 

Sewstern A3 4472 Flying Scotsman Oct 73 C1433.jpg

 

 

Sewstern 03 D2381 shunting Barclay Harlaxton and LMS van Oct 74 J4054.jpg

 

 

Market Overton Smith Rodley steam crane Oct73 C1417.jpg

 

Market Overton A3 4472 Flying Scotsman Oct 73 C1437.jpg

 

 

Market Overton Avonside Fred Oct 73 C1419.jpg

 

 

David

 

Yet more stunning photos Dave, once again many thanks for sharing your considerable archive with the rest of us. So much interest and history.

[Fat Controller]

2 hours ago, DaveF said:

 

This morning's photos are once again from Sewstern and Market Overton, beyond the end of the High Dyke branch on ex British Steel lines.

 

D2381 was one of Bill McAlpine's locos.

 

 

Sewstern 03 D2381 with Flying Scotsman spare boiler July 73 J3237.jpg

 

 

What happened to the second wagon, I wonder? It's a Flatrol WLL/ELL, originally built to transport the M6 'Super Sherman' . The tank never went beyond prototype stage, but quite a few wagons were built. The BSC plant my father worked at (Landore Foundry) used them to transport the largest ingot moulds (weighing about 65 tons) to Llanwern and Ravenscraig. Others were used in conjunction with Transformer wagons to carry components for power stations.

 

[Stentor]

I found this website which gives a bit more background to the visit of the Scotsman to the Sewstern branch in October 1973.

 

http://www.tracksthroughgrantham.uk/recording-the-railway/grantham-railway-galleries/flying-scotsmans-stopover-at-grantham/

 

There are some shots of “the well informed admirers” which might feature you Dave.

 

//Simon