Fat Controller Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Market65 said: Hi, Dave. I like the Sheffield area photo’s which are all full of interest. The first photo’, at Woodburn Junction, Sheffield, GCR, in October, 1976, shows how coal was being stockpiled, presumably with future miners strikes in mind - unless it was a result of that long hot summer. With warmest regards, Rob. Woodburn was a coking plant, I believe, like the more famous Orgreave; if the coking ovens cooled down, because of a shortage of feedstock, it would cost a fortune to relight them. Hence the stocks of coal. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2019 Anomalies of Sheffield railways. Part 1. Woodburn Junction is situted at the side of Woodbourn Road. Orgreave Colliery is known to the railway as Orgreaves Colliery. Both being continuations of railway company mis-namings. Also, the line in the foreground of the Nunnery pictures, (note also Nunnery Carriage Sidings and the LNWR loco shed in the background), is the remnant of the LNWR line to City Goods. Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted March 30, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2019 GM's saloon in the first photo? Or Dave's private conveyance? Great photos. Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Western, are you sure the line would have been the LNWR city goods line. I thought that was further over, where the parkway in the photos was. I thought that was the old colliery lines that ran from the manor colliery all the way to city goods where park Square Island is now (the stone bridge over the MR lines is still there.) The internal user wagons and the fact when they built the supertram they had to dig deeper foundations for the tram bridge over the MR lines because they found the remains of the old LNWR tunnel. If they are old railway lines they might be the ex MR ones to manor colliery. Those being the lines which were modified to allow the passinger trains to be diverted into pond Street and close Victoria. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 31, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, cheesysmith said: Western, are you sure the line would have been the LNWR city goods line. I thought that was further over, where the parkway in the photos was. I thought that was the old colliery lines that ran from the manor colliery all the way to city goods where park Square Island is now (the stone bridge over the MR lines is still there.) The internal user wagons and the fact when they built the supertram they had to dig deeper foundations for the tram bridge over the MR lines because they found the remains of the old LNWR tunnel. If they are old railway lines they might be the ex MR ones to manor colliery. Those being the lines which were modified to allow the passinger trains to be diverted into pond Street and close Victoria. You are correct, and I should have been a bit clearer, there was a fan of lines used as holding sidings for city goods,(and maybe for Nunnery Colliery too), in the foreground area of the photo covering the Sheffield Parkway as well, although the actual remaining line may not have been the running line. Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 31, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) A few of Dad's photos taken on a visit to Shackerstone this morning. I hope the captions are correct as I haven't been there since the very earlier days, before Dad visited there. Shackerstone BR Vlass 2MT July 80 J7012 Shackerstone Borrows The King May 72 J2914 Shackerstone Class 04 D2245Market Bosworth to Shakesrtone July 80 J7005.jpg Shackerstone Fordson tractor on rail wheels and diesel crane July 80 J7016.jpg Shackerstone Hunslet ex Pye Hill NCB 11 May 72 J2912.jpg Shackerstone MR monogram in footbridge July 80 J7004.jpg Shackerstone Ruston July 80 J7017.jpg David Edited March 31, 2019 by DaveF 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) J5462, J5464 brings back some late 70's early 80's memories. FInish work in Durham 7:30 Friday morning. Home for a couple hours sleep, picked up at dinner time for drive to Sheffield, full weekend doing Sheffield things then back to Durham start work 18:00 pm Monday. Passing the British Fuel Company (Sheffield) bunkers with lines of 16 ton minerals lined up in the gap between the bunkers and the Parkway always heralded the Sheffield arrival. Tiny armco barriers to separate the two and a low wall and a well manicured strip of grass. Closed and demolished by 1982 I guess. I can't remember it being there during the miners strike. http://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?action=printdetails&keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;s42762&prevUrl= P Edited March 31, 2019 by Porcy Mane 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 31, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) I'll start this afternoon by saying thanks to those who have provided extra information about the Sheffield photos. When I was (very) young I knew Sheffield reasonably well, as I had relatives who lived there who I saw from time to time. By the late 60s they had moved away so the changes which have taken place since then mean that when I go there now I get hopelessly lost. Now for this afternoon's BR photos which are once again on the Midland, starting at Nottingham. Nottingham Class 45 St Pancras to Sheffield Dec 79 J6714 Nottingham Class 45 up ex pass July 76 C2877 The bright red spots under the bridge on the right are the result of film deterioration. Ratcliffe on Soar Class 253 St Pancras to Sheffield Feb 83 J7810.jpg This looks very different now. Ratcliffe on Soar Class 20s up ballast Feb 83 J7809.jpg Kegworth 37251 down ballast Feb 83 J7805 David Edited March 31, 2019 by DaveF 38 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 31, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the Shackerstone photo’s which are all most interesting. I particularly like J7016, of a Fordson tractor on railway wheels and also a diesel crane in July, 1980. That’s something I don’t recall seeing before. The Midland photo’s starting at Nottingham are full of interest and nostalgia, and I think there’s something interesting about J7810 at Ratcliffe on Soar with a class 253 HST on a St. Pancras to Sheffield service in February, 1983, in that the Mk111 TF nearest the camera is much more dusty than the others. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 31, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2019 Is there anyway I can be uploaded into your collections David and live my life in the past with an interesting rail network. Great pictures as always 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted March 31, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 31, 2019 Hi Dave, I think you'll find D2245 is a class 04 and not an 03. The give away is the roof profile, the 04 having a side overhang versus the rounded profile on the 03. Great photos as usual. Regards, Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 J7809 looks like it could have been taken in Wales, a 37 and a short train of MDVs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 31, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Davexoc said: Hi Dave, I think you'll find D2245 is a class 04 and not an 03. The give away is the roof profile, the 04 having a side overhang versus the rounded profile on the 03. Great photos as usual. Regards, Dave That is my mistake, not Dad's notes - I must have been daydreaming (again) when I typed that caption, Dad had it right. David Edited March 31, 2019 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted March 31, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 31, 2019 10 hours ago, DaveF said: Shackerstone Class 03 D2245Market Bosworth to Shakesrtone July 80 J7005.jpg David An interesting shot that shows the class 103 DTCL that was used as hauled stock. I'm sure that the railcar website would like to add this picture to their archive. Andy G 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 1, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) I don't know if it is just me but I really do not have any particular problems in finding specific content on this site, unlike some comments from posters in other threads. Another visit to Swayfield to see some more ECML trains today. Swayfield Class 31 down parcels April 70 J2089 Swayfield 55022 up May 78 J6128 Swayfield 47333 Hull to Kings X Sept 81 J7577 Swayfield 55007 York to Kings X Sept 81 J7579 Swayfield A3 4472 Flying Scotsman Peterborough to York SLOA Diamond Jubilee Flying Scotsman third run March 83 J7837.jpg David Edited April 1, 2019 by DaveF 37 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 A couple of corrections on the Deltics, David. J6128 is 55 022 - the footstep above the buffer beam gives it away, being smaller than those on the rest of the fleet and square-cornered, where it was fashioned to fit in where the original headlight was fitted. J7579 can't be 55 003 "Meld", as it was cut up nearly six months earlier. I'm pretty certain that it's 55 007 "Pinza". There are a couple of photographs of it in "The Napier Chronicles" that show it with the poorly greased buffers, as visible in your picture. Lovely shots, bringing back great memories, as always. Best regards. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted April 1, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 1, 2019 A light load for a Deltic - BG plus six, in J7579. And no catering? Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 J2089 above; anyone know what the 10th van is? It seems to have a rather higher roof profile than the rest? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Just now, leopardml2341 said: J2089 above; anyone know what the 10th van is? It seems to have a rather higher roof profile than the rest? Just now, leopardml2341 said: J2089 above; anyone know what the 10th van is? It seems to have a rather higher roof profile than the rest? Ex-LMS 'Aeroplane Wagon' (42' Bogie CCT with high roof.) or LMS-design CCT, built by BR? I'd go for the latter, as I think the majority of the former had gone by the mid-1960s. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 2 hours ago, corneliuslundie said: A light load for a Deltic - BG plus six, in J7579. And no catering? Jonathan By that time the York semi-fast services where booked load 8 with a restaurant buffet for refreshments. That stated to change with the micro-buffets coming into service around 1981, when the buffet restaurant was removed, with a TSOT replacing a TSO, hence Loco + 7 wasn't unusual . On some services it just got left out, so no refreshments. I can remember working a couple like that. Paul J. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 J2089 - now that's a parcels train. A fair sprinkling of pre-nationalisaion stock, including at least 4 SR PMV/CCTs... 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fat Controller said: Ex-LMS 'Aeroplane Wagon' (42' Bogie CCT with high roof.) or LMS-design CCT, built by BR? I'd go for the latter, as I think the majority of the former had gone by the mid-1960s. I'm with you on that. Probably a Diag 2026. Here's an aeroplane van as compared to a Hawksworth in 1966. EDIT For some reason this new forum software auto embeds photos from flickr even when the flickr contributor has disabled embedding. It's not my photo. To see the original photo and photographer details on Flickr; click on the photo. P Edited April 1, 2019 by Porcy Mane Flickr explanation. 15 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Porcy Mane said: I'm with you on that. Probably a Diag 2026. Here's an aeroplane van as compared to a Hawksworth in 1966. P That's a great photo, plenty of weathering inspiration! Steve. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Not sure about that LMS vanidentification - the one in the train looks as if it has central doors (note the lighter patches where the doors are on other vehicles). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, talisman56 said: Not sure about that LMS vanidentification - the one in the train looks as if it has central doors (note the lighter patches where the doors are on other vehicles). A Diag. 2026 CCT had central doors. http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=777 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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