eastwestdivide Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 16 hours ago, melmerby said: Complete with a public right of way from Lancashire proper to "over the sands" Although it's a public right of way, it's strongly recommended not to venture out there without the official guide, who organises walks across the bay. We did it a few years back, fascinating and slightly scary when you come to the quicksand. They used to drive a coach and horses across in coaching days - mostly successfully - but you only need go back to the cockle-pickers disaster of a few years ago to understand the dangers. Bing maps OS map link showing the warning printed on the map. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted March 13, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 13, 2019 I think the seats at Grange are pretty safe, being of Furness railway design - not sure if they are originals - and much loved. Th station is, rightly, Grade II listed and according to Wikipedia "The station was awarded 'Heritage Station of the Year' in 2012". Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 13, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2019 A visit to Hartelepool today on the coast line south from Sunderland. The 1987 photos were taken just after thick sea fret lifted from the station area, the docks only a few yards away were still shrouded in thick fog. It's taken some time to upload the images but it has worked - eventually. Hartlepool 143005 Newcastle to Middlesbrough 29th July 86 C7683.jpg Hartlepool Class 101 Hartlepool to Darlington 17th April 87 C8298.jpg Hartlepool 17th April 87 C8300.jpg Hartlepool 17th April 87 C8301 Hartlepool 143011 Middlesbrough to Newcastle 17th April 87 C8303.jpg David 29 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 On 12/03/2019 at 16:42, Enterprisingwestern said: It will soon be Grange under Sands then? Mike. I've seen it covered in water after storm tides, I did wonder where the sheep went in such a circumstance. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted March 13, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 13, 2019 4 hours ago, DaveF said: A visit to Hartelepool today on the coast line south from Sunderland. The 1987 photos were taken just after thick sea fret lifted from the station area, the docks only a few yards away were still shrouded in thick fog. It's taken some time to upload the images but it has worked - eventually. Hartlepool 143005 Newcastle to Middlesbrough 29th July 86 C7683.jpg Hartlepool Class 101 Hartlepool to Darlington 17th April 87 C8298.jpg Hartlepool 17th April 87 C8300.jpg Hartlepool 17th April 87 C8301 Hartlepool 143011 Middlesbrough to Newcastle 17th April 87 C8303.jpg David Nice shots of Hartlepool Dave, thanks for sharing. Takes me back to the late 70s when I was attached to one of the S&T Installation gangs based in York, we spent a good few months in the area installing new cabling (IIRC 19 star quad) all the way from Hartlepool to Sunderland. Ah, happy days. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 13, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the Hartlepool photo’s which show how the station and the trains serving it were at the time of the photo’s. In C8298, with a class 101 DMU on a Hartlepool to Darlington service, on the 17th April, 1987, there’s a nice flurry of exhaust as the unit departs the station. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 14, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) Back to the East Coast Main Line north of Grantham today. The first photos were taken from a bridge just north of the site of Hougham station (north of Barkston), the remaining ones were taken a little further north from a bridge near the village of Dry Doddington. Hougham Oct 75 J4957 Hougham Class 254 up May 78 J6057 Hougham 47511? up June 78 J6142 Hougham Class 47 up Aug 78 J6329 Dry Doddington Class 55 down Aug 78 C4088 probably 55014 Dry Doddington Class 47 down Aug 78 J6328 David Edited March 15, 2019 by DaveF 36 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the ECML photo’s from north of Grantham. A splendid set which really capture so perfectly how things were back in the 1970’s. I think I need to ask a question about the last photo’. In both of the BSO’s one door to the guards van can be seen to be open. Was this a standard practice as laid down in the rule book, or something else? With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 14, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Market65 said: Hi, Dave. I like the ECML photo’s from north of Grantham. A splendid set which really capture so perfectly how things were back in the 1970’s. I think I need to ask a question about the last photo’. In both of the BSO’s one door to the guards van can be seen to be open. Was this a standard practice as laid down in the rule book, or something else? With warmest regards, Rob. Rob, I'd never even noticed that the doors were open. I cannot find any other photos with doors open like that. At first I wondered if it was a scanning artefact but the black follows the shape of the tumblehome so it can't be. I wonder if anyone knows the answer. David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 C4088 looks like 55 014 to me, David. I'm not sure about J6142 either. At a higher magnification the numbers look too rounded for it to be 47 511 - BICBW. 511 was, also, a Western Region loco and, whilst "foreign" Brush 4s weren't all that rare on the ECML earlier in the decade (when depots would tend to use anything that they had to hand), by 1978 it would be very unusual to see what was, then, a Landore loco. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted March 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 15, 2019 I'm sure it wasn't allowed then, just as much as it wouldn't be allowed now, but are the open inward opening doors leading directly into the guards compartment, so helping to keep it cool? Obviously it wouldn't be on the corridor side (too much risk of someone falling out), but I can remember travelling on a DMU where the inward opening door was open inside the (locked) cage... Andy G 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazythread Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Was the guards compartment air conditioned by any chance? Looks like a warm day. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 15, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2019 Today's photos are once again from Scotland, this time heading north along the ECML towards Edinburgh. Penmanshiel 43154 down 11th Aug 87 C8944 Drem 21st Aug 86 C7935 Drem 21st Aug 86 C7936. Cockenzie 26003 21st Aug 86 C7934 Portobello 43179 and 43078 up 11th Aug 87 C8926 David 35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the ECML photo’s going towards Edinburgh. So interesting and nostalgic. The last one at Portobello, C8926, on the 11th, August, 1987, shows that there were at least three class 110 TSL’s in one of the sidings in the background. I know that the 3 car 110’s were being reduced to two cars by then, and I wonder if that’s where the TSL’s ended up prior to scrapping? With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamysandy Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) Hi Dave Definitely home territory today. I was born at Drem farm behind the station in 1948 and have lived in the area ever since. The station was listed but due to a misreading of the documents the down side shelter was accidentally demolished and had to be rebuilt about 1990. The sight of a 26 on hoppers at Cockenzie Power Station was a familiar one. This is fairly close to the track bed of the Tranent and Cockenzie Wagonway is close by.This was one of the first railways in Scotland and may have been the inspiration for an early Wagonway in Australia through the Caddell family of Cockenzie,one of who settled near Adelaide and planned the line which is now a preserved railway on 5ft 3 in gauge.(The Steam Ranger,Victor Harbour ,South Australia) Edited March 15, 2019 by Steamysandy More info 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted March 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 15, 2019 A bit different from when I was trainspotting at Portobello when on holiday in the early nineteen sixties! Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted March 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Market65 said: ...shows that there were at least three class 110 TSL’s in one of the sidings in the background. I know that the 3 car 110’s were being reduced to two cars by then, and I wonder if that’s where the TSL’s ended up prior to scrapping? I know you know your DMU vehicles Rob - I'd have assumed that they were cl.104 vehicles as they were used in the area - what marks them out as cl.110? (exotic stock that I was chuffed to see first hand in Scarborough & York in 1983. I was aware of the Hornby DMU and from when I first got 'Motive Power Recognition 3 - DMUs' in 1982 Edited March 15, 2019 by keefer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdlcs Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 19 hours ago, Market65 said: Hi, Dave. I like the ECML photo’s going towards Edinburgh. So interesting and nostalgic. The last one at Portobello, C8926, on the 11th, August, 1987, shows that there were at least three class 110 TSL’s in one of the sidings in the background. I know that the 3 car 110’s were being reduced to two cars by then, and I wonder if that’s where the TSL’s ended up prior to scrapping? With warmest regards, Rob. A number of Class 110 trailers were transferred to Scotland (Haymarket) around this time when Scotland was a destination for all sorts of DMU odds-and-ends, presumably due to late deliveries of Sprinters, or problems with those already delivered. I can remember being at Edinburgh Waverley with a school friend, who is also on RMWeb, and seeing a Class 47 hauling four or five Class 110 trailers through the station and heading towards HA. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 16, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) Midland Railway today at Trent and Beeston (between Nottingham and Trent). I'm not sure why I visited Trent on such a dull wet day. The Beeston photos are unusually recent having only been taken eleven years ago. It's a station I never got round to visiting in the days when I was taking slides. Beeston 153357 up pass 8th March 2008 IMG_3846.jpg Beeston 170108 down pass 60026 up oil 8th March 2008 IMG_3854.jpg Trent 58031 up l e 31st May 86 C7613 Trent 150150 Lincoln to Crewe 31st May 86 C7615 Trent 150150 Lincoln to Crewe 31st May 86 C7616 David Edited March 16, 2019 by DaveF 29 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 16, 2019 18 hours ago, keefer said: I know you know your DMU vehicles Rob - I'd have assumed that they were cl.104 vehicles as they were used in the area - what marks them out as cl.110? (exotic stock that I was chuffed to see first hand in Scarborough & York in 1983. I was aware of the Hornby DMU and from when I first got 'Motive Power Recognition 3 - DMUs' in 1982 Hi, keefer. Sorry for the late reply. There are some key differences between the two classes. The first one is that the windows each side of the connecting gangway are at the same height as the saloon windows unlike in class 104 where the top of the end windows is level with the gutter. Next is the fact that all the windows, except for the door drop lights, were pan framed unit type windows which the class 104 ‘s were not fitted out with. The other thing about the TSL’s is that the bogies are sprung differently, and if you place the bogies next to each other you can see that the vertically hung swing rods carried on knife edges the spring plank with side control by rubber springing with hydraulic damping. Much more complex than the simpler Derby design of the class 104! I hope that’s of some help, and isn’t too technical. Best regards, Rob. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 16, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the Trent and Beeston photo’s which still full of interest even if relatively modern. We must keep on taking photo’s of all things railway, they will be of such value to future generations. The last two photo’s show how modern looking the class 150’s were back then at Trent, on the 31st, May, 1986. 150150 just looks so new and modern compared to clapped out first generation DMUs. And certainly preferable to a Pacer too. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 On 03/03/2019 at 15:55, DaveF said: The Southern around London for this afternoon, mostly in 1979. The first photo dates back to 1969 when I was a student living in Manchester and is taken from St Pauls, sadly it did not scan too well. I still remember the day I took it, a group of us had travelled to London from Manchester to sing in a choir at the Royal Albert Hall. Cannon Street from St Pauls Nov 69 C5500.jpg I've got a similar photo my Dad took (I was with him at the time) a few years earlier (9th Nov. '63). A case of spot the differences (and there are several): 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted March 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 16, 2019 3 hours ago, DaveF said: Beeston 170108 down pass 60026 up oil 8th March 2008 IMG_3854.jpg 60026 was on 6M57 Lindsey - Kingsbury on 08/03/2008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted March 17, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 17, 2019 12 hours ago, BernardTPM said: I've got a similar photo my Dad took (I was with him at the time) a few years earlier (9th Nov. '63). A case of spot the differences (and there are several): I’d call it spot the blots on the landscape... that tower block for one. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 17, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) This morning's preserved railway photos are from the Lakeside and Haverthwaite Railway in Cumbria. A couple of the Windermere boats are included. Haverthwaite 9th Aug 87 C8867 Haverthwaite Bagnall Princess Aug 79 J6621 Haverthwaite Peckett 1925/1937 Caliban Hudswell Clarke 1366/1918 Renishaw Ironworks No6 Fowler Fluff Aug 79 J6619.jpg Haverthwaite Hunslet Cumbria Lakeside to Haverthwaite 9th Aug 87 C8878.jpg Linster Green Hunslet Cumbria Haverthwaite to Lakeside 9th Aug 87 C8896.jpg Lakeside Teal Aug 79 J 6628 Lakeside Swift 9th Aug 87 C8863 David Edited March 18, 2019 by DaveF 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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