balders Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 What's the second coach in J7832? Support vehicle or Royal Train spare? Great photo as usual David! Regards Guy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 4 hours ago, dvdlcs said: J7641 also gives an interesting comparison between the then modern HBA/HEA hopper and an older example, don't think that was a HTV, in the foreground. 3 hours ago, Fat Controller said: I thought that the unfitted hopper was ex-LNER, but, looking at it, the end has some curves, so possibly a former Private Owner from somewhere? Mark Saunders or Paul Bartlett migh be able to identify it. The hopper is Liverpool Corporation number 368 that was delivered new post war! It differs to the prewar designs of which number 82 is the only survivor at Cottesmore. There is one at Embsay although cut down to reduce the height! 9 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted April 18, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 18, 2019 Hi Dave, J6417 is 55013 The Black Watch 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted April 18, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the Dry Doddington photo’s which are most nostalgic and so interesting. In J6417, with an unidentified class 55 on an up express in April, 1979, I see there is a BSO leading the formation. I cant recall if its been mentioned before, but I’m wondering if its a positioning movement for the BSO. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted April 18, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 18, 2019 2 hours ago, balders said: What's the second coach in J7832? Support vehicle or Royal Train spare? Great photo as usual David! Regards Guy I think the coaches were from the collection then at Carnforth, used as support coaches. David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamysandy Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Hi Dave J7832 - I believe the second coach is an ex Great Western Inspection saloon which appeared on specials behind Castle class locos. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted April 18, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 hour ago, DaveF said: I think the coaches were from the collection then at Carnforth, used as support coaches. I have the guide book from 1977 which lists E34612 Mk1 BSK as Flying Scotsman Enterprises Administration coach and 9004 which was a GWR Officers saloon of 1930 vintage. Could be them.... Dave 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) Definitely not 9004 - wrong profile and too many windows (including the ends). It looks like a later Collett pattern Saloon from 1940 or '45. I suspect 9006 (dia.G64) or 9007 (dia.G65) as the 1940 coaches (9001/2 dia.G62) are on six-wheel bogies and again have too many large windows. After finding some extra pics, I think it is more likely to be 9006 than 9007. Edited April 18, 2019 by BernardTPM 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 19, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) Today's photos come a folder on my PC titled "Railways Around Harrogate" which I think sums them up. They were taken by Dad in the mid to late 60s. Rigton Class 47 down White Rose Dec 66 J711 Ripon River Ouse bridge Oct 65 J392 Collingham pw tamper after closure Sept 65 J355.jpg Starbeck goods Class 08 from Harrogate to York dmu Aug 65 J213.jpg Starbeck station and crossing July 67 J972 David Edited April 19, 2019 by DaveF 37 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DY444 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 On 18/04/2019 at 15:27, DaveF said: ECML again today, this time at Dry Doddington, between Grantham and Newark. The first three photos are, as usual, simply the trains which passed by while Dad was there. I think the last two were taken on a day when he went specifically to see Flying Scotsman. Dry Doddington 47406 down Feb 81 J7324 David The generators had the dummy ets receptacle on the buffer beam so that can't be 47406. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeighties Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 On 03/04/2019 at 15:30, DaveF said: Today's photos are in and around Newcastle in the 1980s. Scotswood Tunnel east end 14th Sept 85 C7176 St Peters Newcastle Riverside branch Mon 17 Feb 86 C7301.jpg Newcastle 43096 Edinburgh to Kings X 1st Aug 86 C7806 Newcastle 47051 cement from Forth sidings 24th Feb 87 C8216.jpg Newcastle 47652 Newcastle to Poole 14th April 87 C8263.jpg David That first shot of Scotswood. Marvellous. Around the time of these images and a few years earlier is spent most of my days at Newcastle Central and GD. How I wish I had explored the branches. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeighties Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 On 04/04/2019 at 15:28, DaveF said: More from the Blyth and Tyne today, this time on the line from Newcastle to Morpeth, the photos start at Seghill. I really was standing in the middle of the road at Seghill. Having got out of the car I stood in front of it to take the photo. Fortunately there was no other traffic about. Edit - Sometime fairly soon I hope to put a few pf my favourite recent photos into a Gallery on RMWeb Seghill Class 56 up alminium ingots 26th June 99 C24668.jpg South Newsham diverted HST down Feb 84 C 6461 South Newsham 37 37062 up May 81 J7506 South Newsham 37062 up ballast in siding Aug 81 J7569.jpg Morpeth cable train 25th April 86 C7559 Taken while the ECML was being electrified. David Lovely stuff. The 56 at Seghill crossing which is a couple of hundred yards from my house! 60s and 66s rumbling over now, much preferred 37s and 56s. Dave I don't suppose you have any decent shots of the ingot wagons? Quite fancy modelling a rake of them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted April 19, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the Harrogate and it’s railways photo’s which are oozing period atmosphere and interest. In particular J355, at Collingham, with a permanent way tamper taken after closure in September, 1965. What a splendid machine which would make a delightful model. I don’t know what it was doing there though with the line closed, unless BR was just testing it out on a railway of no further importance. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 There've been several types of wagon used on the slab traffic, IIRC. BDA Bogie bolster (available from Bachmann and Cambrian) BMA/BNA Bogie Bolster (available from Cambrian FFA/FGA Freightliner flat with flat, single-ended containers. Another type used, though strangely loaded at the goods depot in Gateshead, were these:- https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/frenchcurtainside 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) The metal bridge piers in J392 Ripon River Ouse bridge look just like the Hornby high-level ones! Edited April 19, 2019 by BernardTPM 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) Was a duplicate - sorry. Edited April 19, 2019 by BernardTPM 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeighties Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Fat Controller said: There've been several types of wagon used on the slab traffic, IIRC. BDA Bogie bolster (available from Bachmann and Cambrian) BMA/BNA Bogie Bolster (available from Cambrian FFA/FGA Freightliner flat with flat, single-ended containers. Another type used, though strangely loaded at the goods depot in Gateshead, were these:- https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/frenchcurtainside Yup. It's the FFA/FGA version I'm looking for. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted April 19, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 hours ago, blueeighties said: Lovely stuff. The 56 at Seghill crossing which is a couple of hundred yards from my house! 60s and 66s rumbling over now, much preferred 37s and 56s. Dave I don't suppose you have any decent shots of the ingot wagons? Quite fancy modelling a rake of them. 2 hours ago, Fat Controller said: There've been several types of wagon used on the slab traffic, IIRC. BDA Bogie bolster (available from Bachmann and Cambrian) BMA/BNA Bogie Bolster (available from Cambrian FFA/FGA Freightliner flat with flat, single-ended containers. Another type used, though strangely loaded at the goods depot in Gateshead, were these:- https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/frenchcurtainside 7 minutes ago, blueeighties said: Yup. It's the FFA/FGA version I'm looking for. I didn't see the slab trains that often as I think I was usually at work at the times they ran. I've looked through my photos and can't find any showing the wagons, except for a few on RMWeb showing bits of wagons at level crossings. Sorry I can't be more help. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeighties Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 18 minutes ago, DaveF said: I didn't see the slab trains that often as I think I was usually at work at the times they ran. I've looked through my photos and can't find any showing the wagons, except for a few on RMWeb showing bits of wagons at level crossings. Sorry I can't be more help. David No problem David, thanks for having a look. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 20, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) Back to the Southern today. This time we are on the bridge just south of Polhill Tunnel on various dates in the late 70s. The weather was very dull on all but one of the visits. As I post these I've just realised that I have forgotten to check the destinations of the trains, any corrections are welcome. Polhill Tunnel Class 201 1006 Hastings to Charing Cross Nov 78 C4208.jpg Polhill Tunnel Class 415 5344 Sevenoaks to London - emergency service, line blocked north of Tonbridge March 79 C4355.jpg Polhill Tunnel Class 411 7209 Margate to Charing Cross Nov 79 C4872.jpg Polhill Tunnel Class 415 5159 Sevenoaks to Charing Cross Nov 79 C4871.jpg Polhill Tunnel Class 415 5181 down Nov 79 J6679.jpg David Edited April 20, 2019 by DaveF 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted April 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 20, 2019 Headcodes on the Southern can be a real mystery, of course. As far as the South Eastern Railway is concerned - as here - in this era even headcodes went to Charing Cross, odd ones to Cannon Street. In practice, Cannon had very few trains outside the peaks in those days and none at weekends. London, Chatham and Dover services, on the other main lines in Kent, had a similar split of destinations - even numbers to Victoria, odd to Holborn Viaduct/Blackfriars. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted April 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 20, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the photo’s from the south of Polhill Tunnel. They are most interesting and show typical trains on the Southern Region of BR, with classes 201, 411 and 415 all hard work. In the first photo’ there is a form of mist in the background, which makes a most interesting effect to the composition of the photo’. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted April 20, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Oldddudders said: Headcodes on the Southern can be a real mystery, of course. As far as the South Eastern Railway is concerned - as here - in this era even headcodes went to Charing Cross, odd ones to Cannon Street. In practice, Cannon had very few trains outside the peaks in those days and none at weekends. London, Chatham and Dover services, on the other main lines in Kent, had a similar split of destinations - even numbers to Victoria, odd to Holborn Viaduct/Blackfriars. As I’m sure Olddudders knows, it was the same on the Central Division. Even numbers to Victoria, odd to London Bridge. As to the photos, there must have been something not quite right with the track alignment; my first reaction when I saw the second last coach in C4872 was that it was about to derail. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted April 21, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2019 Surely in the first photo it is a printed backscene! Jonathan 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 21, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) Back to normal today with the preserved railway photos at the usual time. Today's show the Stephenson Museum at Middle Engine Lane (which is next to the Silverlink Shopping Centre) at North Shields. It is on the site of the old Metro test track, there are a number of other old lines in the immediate area. It has an interesting collection of locos and stock and a pleasant train ride is available. Things have moved on a lot since these photos were taken over 30 years ago. Middle Engine Lane NER electric luggage van Sept 85 C7195.jpg Middle Engine Lane Sans Pareil replica Sept 85 C7201.jpg Middle Engine Lane Stephenson Museum Class 11 12098 ex NCB Philadelphia 19th July 87 C8712.jpg Middle Engine Lane Stephenson Museum ex Harton Colliery Siemens 19th July 87 C8713.jpg Middle Engine Lane Stephenson Museum Killingworh Colliery Billy of 1826 19th July 87 C8702.jpg Middle Engine Lane Stephenson Museum Kitson A No5 19th July 87 C8704.jpg David Edited April 21, 2019 by DaveF 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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