Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[sir douglas]

the blue diesel (C8723) is a RSH, 7900 of 1958

https://images.app.goo.gl/Ge57tzkKbDJjB3bh7

[DaveF]

2 hours ago, Market65 said:

Hi, Dave. I like the Marley Hill station and sheds on the Tanfield Railway photo’s which are fascinating. What a lovely engine, RSH number 21 is, at Marley Hill, on the 28th May, 1988, in C9481. It really would make a delightful model.

The Newcastle to Carlisle photo’s are also fill of interest, and those red noses or looks of surprise, on the cab ends of those class 143’s in C11674, and C11679 are something which I’ve never seen before on a train. I wonder if more information about them is available?    (My bold to show the bit my comment below refers to - Dave F)

And that’s a fascinating signal box at Prudhoe, in C11673, on the 11th March , 1989. 

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

 

All I know about the red noses is that they appeared around red nose day and remained for some time afterwards.  I don't think I've ever seen anything in print about them.

 

David

[DaveF]

1 hour ago, sir douglas said:

the blue diesel (C8723) is a RSH, 7900 of 1958

https://images.app.goo.gl/Ge57tzkKbDJjB3bh7

 

 

Thanks very much for the information, yet again one of my copy/paste errors when captioning.

 

Caption is now amended.

 

David

 

 

Edited July 28, 2019 by DaveF

[eastwestdivide]

Wikipedia says the 2nd Red Nose Day was Friday 10 March 1989, which ties in nicely with the date on the photos.

I couldn't find any references to other photos/other trains with them, other than much more recently.

Edited July 29, 2019 by eastwestdivide

[DaveF]

 A couple of freight trains and some more tracklaying at Bottesford this afternoon.

 

 

Bottesford 25306 down freight March 81 J7329.jpg

 

 

Bottesford 20199 and ano up freight June 81 J7513.jpg    8E07 07:12 SX Toton East Yard - Whitemoor

 

 

Bottesford Class 37 and 31191 Nov 83 J8101.jpg

 

 

Bottesford Class 31 Nov 83 J8108

 

 

Bottesford cranes laying track Nov 83 J8114.jpg

 

 

David

Edited July 31, 2019 by DaveF

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Bottesford photo’s. They are full of interest, particularly the track relaying photo’s. I also particularly like J7513, of two class 20’s, with 20189, not 20199, leading on an up freight train in June, 1981. On the bufferbeam of 20189, despite the heavy weathering, the blue star coupling code symbols are clearly visible. Perhaps they had been applied on top of the grime! Also the loco number is crudely applied between the coupling code stars - in chalk?

 

With warmest regards,

 

 Rob.

 

[Clagsniffer]

Another great selection of pictures full of interest. I particularly like pictures of track laying/ballasting, I find it fascinating seeing the equipment involved and all the different wagon types. Talking of wagons, is that a Sturgeon wagon in J8114?

 

Regards, 

 

Rich.

[Davexoc]

2 hours ago, Clagsniffer said:

Another great selection of pictures full of interest. I particularly like pictures of track laying/ballasting, I find it fascinating seeing the equipment involved and all the different wagon types. Talking of wagons, is that a Sturgeon wagon in J8114?

Appears to be marked YBO, so yes a Sturgeon.

 

I'm curious about that bogie ammonia wagon in J7329. I'm guessing the ferry van is/was a barrier when it was loaded, but everything else is open or hopper.

 

Regards,

 

Dave

[Fat Controller]

21 minutes ago, Davexoc said:

Appears to be marked YBO, so yes a Sturgeon.

 

I'm curious about that bogie ammonia wagon in J7329. I'm guessing the ferry van is/was a barrier when it was loaded, but everything else is open or hopper.

 

Regards,

 

Dave

I suspect the 21t Minfit is the barrier. I wonder where the train was coming from and going to?

[DaveF]

10 minutes ago, Fat Controller said:

I suspect the 21t Minfit is the barrier. I wonder where the train was coming from and going to?

 

 

Re J7329 in today's photos.

 

Sadly I don't have any working timetables for the Grantham to Nottingham line so I don't know where the train came from or was going to.  

 

It's a line where not very much has appeared in magazines or books over the years either, so I have never been able to sort out the freight workings when i am trying to write captions.

 

Can anyone help?

 

David

[russ p]

I don't think it's a barrier as there isn't one the other side of the tank.

The ferry van and the tank look like they are probably from parkeston but parkeston men didn't sign 25s so I would think is possibly a whitemoor  toton service 

[Enterprisingwestern]

 

The chlorine tank is more than likely on it's way to British Celanese at Spondon, but why it's coming from the direction it is is interesting as this wasn't the flow, that came from the ICI factories on the Wirral. Possibly a one off working of a single wagon from a subsidiary factory in the East?

 

Mike.

[eastwestdivide]

5 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

The chlorine tank is more than likely on it's way to British Celanese at Spondon, but why it's coming from the direction it is is interesting as this wasn't the flow, that came from the ICI factories on the Wirral. Possibly a one off working of a single wagon from a subsidiary factory in the East?

 

Mike.

I too thought it looked a bit like the Spondon chlorine tanks.

I did once see a chlorine tank (4wheel I think) at the paper mills near New Hythe (Kent) back in the late 70s. Were there paper mills in E Anglia? Would a Kent flow have been routed via Temple Mills-Whitemoor-Toton-wherever the chlorine works was?

Or could it have been coming back to Spondon from repairs?

[DaveF]

 

Some more photos along the Cumbrian Coast line again today.

 

 

Kents Bank Class 108 Lancaster to Carlisle 8th Aug 87 C8852.jpg

 

 

Cark and Cartmel Class 108 Barrow to Lancaster and 47229 down empty coal 8th Aug 87 C8848.jpg

 

 

Drigg Class 7th Aug 87 C8791

 

 

Drigg Class 108 Barrow to Carlisle 7th Aug 87 C8789.jpg

 

 

Dalston Class 37 37025 22nd April 87 C8405.jpg

 

 

David

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Cumbrian Coast line photo’s which are full of interest. I particularly like the station buildings at Drigg, on the 7th August, 1987, in  C8791. They would make a fine model, along with the signal box in the following photo’.

 

With warmest regards,

 

 Rob.

Edited July 30, 2019 by Market65

[The Stationmaster]

Thanks Dave - a nice reminder of the time I stopped in the pub at Drigg while doing some bits & pieces for lal Ratty.  The pub is the white building in the background of the third pic down - my room was the one with the window at the left hand end on the 1st floor so you can see that I had a nice view of the railway

[SP Steve]

J7329 Bottesford Down Freight 25.306 - the October 1980 - May 1981 WTT for conditional train services provides details for 7M06 10:05 SX Whitemoor -Toton New Bank which, given the consist seen, might be a contender?

 

In the up direction was 8E12 14:39 SX Toton East Yard - Whitemoor (J7513?)

Edited July 31, 2019 by SP Steve
Additional info added

[DaveF]

11 minutes ago, SP Steve said:

J7329 Bottesford Down Freight 25.306 - the October 1980 - May 1981 WTT for conditional train services provides details for 7M06 10:05 SX Whitemoor -Toton New Bank which, given the consist seen, might be a contender?

 

In the up direction was 8E12 14:39 SX Toton East Yard - Whitemoor (J7513?)

 

 

Looking at J7329 that looks right, so I've added it to the caption.

 

I'm much less sure about J7513 as it was a morning photo, as the loco and station building are both in the sun,and the sun appears to be still on the north east side of the line soIi think it is a photo taken fairly early in the morning - 9am ish or even a bit earlier?

 

It may have been taken on a day when Mum decided to go to work on the train rather than take her car (she worked near one of the other stations on the line), Dad often walked to the station with her and took photos before returning home - he worked from home around that time.

 

David

[DaveF]

 Today's photos are at Appleby and Kirkby Stephen towards the north of the settle and Carlisle.

 

They are quite recent photos (for this thread), several are only a bit over twenty years old, some are only about thirteen years old.

 

Things will return to normal tomorrow.

 

 

Appleby rear of train hauled byClass 4MT 80080 Carlisle to Kirkby Stephen 22nd Feb 93 C18288.jpg

 

Appleby water tower 10th April 97 C21775

 

 

Appleby 25th Nov 05 SIMG_0351   

ICI Salt Winsford van Wood frame oil axleboxes

2315 built Gloucester RC&W Co Ltd 1942

 

 

 

Kirkby Stephen 29th Aug 96 C21392

 

 

Kirkby Stephen Class 153 and 156 Carlisle to Leeds 15th Aug 06 SIMG_2555.jpg

 

 

Kirkby Stephen 153332 and Class 156 Carlisle to Leeds 15th Aug 06 SIMG_2557.jpg

 

 

David

 

Edited July 31, 2019 by DaveF

[SP Steve]

12 minutes ago, DaveF said:

 

I'm much less sure about J7513 as it was a morning photo, as the loco and station building are both in the sun,and the sun appears to be still on the north east side of the line soIi think it is a photo taken fairly early in the morning - 9am ish or even a bit earlier?

 

It may have been taken on a day when Mum decided to go to work on the train rather than take her car (she worked near one of the other stations on the line), Dad often walked to the station with her and took photos before returning home - he worked from home around that time.

 

David

 In that case the likely working would be 8E07 07:12 SX Toton East Yard - Whitemoor which was booked to pass Bingham at 07:54 which would tally with your recollections.

[35A]

51 minutes ago, SP Steve said:

 In that case the likely working would be 8E07 07:12 SX Toton East Yard - Whitemoor which was booked to pass Bingham at 07:54 which would tally with your recollections.

 

Sounds more likely. Unless 8E12 had been rerouted by 1981 (I was away at college by then), it always used to run via Syston and Peterborough. Throughout the 1970s it was our regular, daily Class 44 'Peak' (passing PBO at around 16:20) and my notes still show some sightings of it as late as September 1980.

[melmerby]

Bring back the 15X DMU

The S & C currently has several 170s ex-Scotrail and the most uncomfortable seats I have been on apart from Pacers.

Edited July 31, 2019 by melmerby
wrong class!

[Clive Mortimore]

At first I thought SIMG_2555 was a photo of a well made model, it wasn't till a noticed the chap who has appeared not to have heard the planet is over populated (if they are all his kids) I had to have a second look. 

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Appleby and Kirkby Stephen photo’s which are all full of interest. In particular the box van in SIMG_0351, on the 25th November, 2005, at Appleby, is either an ex LNER van or an ex RCH van. It’s the doors which are slightly confusing me. They don’t seem LNER. 

 

With warmest regards,

 

 Rob.

[Fat Controller]

1 hour ago, Clive Mortimore said:

At first I thought SIMG_2555 was a photo of a well made model, it wasn't till a noticed the chap who has appeared not to have heard the planet is over populated (if they are all his kids) I had to have a second look. 

That one got me as well, Clive; like you, I thought  it was the figures that let the model down