chrisf Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Hi, Dave. A fantastic selection of photo's of Crewe from 1971. In photo' C502 is a class 121 on a service to Cardiff, and I did not realise that these units got as far as Crewe. All the best, Market65. They were coupled to a Cross-Country set to provide 300 hp of much needed extra power. As I understand it they were locked empty and sometimes replaced by 116 power cars, 50090 and 50132 being quite regular performers. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted August 29, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 29, 2015 Some nice shots once more, Dave. That one of the train of vans hauled by two 25s intrigues me. The third vehicle from the left-hand end is an ex-GWR Mink G- I'd always believed the last examples of these in the revenue fleet had gone by the mid-1960s, but this one doesn't look as though it's gone over to engineer's use. Immediately to its left is what looks to be one of the spectacularly unsuccessful Dia 1/211 Palvans; again a type that had gone into non-revenue use a long while before, I thought. It certainly doesn't have the white stripes of the 'Palvan-Shocks' in the same train. The other freight shot looks as though it's composed of Tube wagons from Corby. Do you mean third wagon from the right hand end? The van on the very right also seems to be of the same design with, as you say, no indication of 'departmental' use - perhaps the remains of a pasted traders label between the middle uprights. The first three vehicles seem to be Continental ferry vans. Interesting that the junction seems to have been removed during the time between the first two pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Do you mean third wagon from the right hand end? The van on the very right also seems to be of the same design with, as you say, no indication of 'departmental' use - perhaps the remains of a pasted traders label between the middle uprights. The first three vehicles seem to be Continental ferry vans. Interesting that the junction seems to have been removed during the time between the first two pictures. Left and right suitably corrected, Steve. I hadn't noticed that the wagon nearest the camera was also a Mink G. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted August 29, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 29, 2015 C398 and the cravens rear car, is it coupled to a class 100 DMBS? A small part of Saxby box remains, my living room stove was recovered from the box, and still shows scars from where it was thrown from the top of the stairs. The base plate is cracked and the doors are a bit wonky! Andy G 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 C398 and the cravens rear car, is it coupled to a class 100 DMBS? Andy G The front unit looks to be a 3 car BRCW 104, DMC+TC+DMBS. As mentioned by uax6 above the rear 2 car set looks to be a GRCW class 100 DMBS and a Cravens 105 DTC but with the first class removed making it a DTS. Not uncommon for an East Anglian unit, The Class 100 gives it away as an East Anglian set for that date as would most probably be the 104. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 The 122's were a regular feature on the Cardiff-Crewe workings up until the Swindon 123's and then 25 & coaches took over. Although usually locked out of use, as already mentioned, they were sometimes opened up for passenger use as found out by a Hereford traincrew who decided to ride back from Crewe one day in the empty unit, rearranged the seats to form comfortable beds. They slept soundly until just before Hereford and on waking up found themselves surrounded by unhappy standing passengers, the unit having been unlocked for public use at Shrewsbury. Paul J. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 29, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 29, 2015 Hi, Dave. A great selection of photo's of Saxby today. Swindon 123 is correct about the formation of the DMU in the first photo'. Instead of a Cravens DMBS the DMBS is a Gloucester class 100 car, with the class 104 formation exactly as stated. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted August 29, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 29, 2015 If there's an afterlife with choice of locations and times, I would like to spend it in Crewe around that period in time. Having lived in Crewe at that time, you cannot be serious. (Although there were some good times to be had with the students from the teacher training college, but those stories wouldn't get through the filter on here) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railsquid Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 To be specific, I mean Crewe the station, not Crewe the town. Oh, and I'd expect better sartorial options. Unfortunately I never really travelled much on the UK network outside of the Birmingham area, and seldom with a camera, so reliving the childhood adventures I never had via this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 30, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 30, 2015 Some from visits to the Kent and East Sussex in the second half of the 1970s for this afternoon. It was always a pleasant place to visit, everyone was friendly and helpful. As usual the weather was not always brilliant. The journey there from Essex could be quite slow especially as in those days there was only the original Dartford Tunnel. Tenterden ex NSB 2-6-0 19 hauling broken down GWR railcar 20 15th May 76 C2718 Tenterden Terrier 10 Sutton Sept 77 C3547 Tenterden Terrier 10 Sutton taking water Sept 78 C4137 Tenterden Bank ex NSB 19 27th Dec 76 C3161 Tenterden Bank Hunslet 24 William Austen climbing bank July 79 C4631 Wittersham Road Hunslet 24 William Austen running round July 79 C4624 David 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeighties Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Is it just me or does the pair of 87s and the 86 look like they have a more orange tint to the yellow front than the 81. I'm asking because when they were repainted into the last intercity livery with the full yellow end, the colour looks like it changed again into a paler yellow. Yes, they are different shades. I repaint numerous examples all of the time, early warning yellow is just that, later warning yellow as introduced when large logo and Railfreight liveries started to become more commonplace, has a much warmer more orangey shade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeighties Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Thanks as always for those wonderful Carlisle shots Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted August 30, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2015 The second set for today were taken at Preston in May and November 1971 when preparatory work for electrification was underway. The weather on the November visit was typical for the time of year - dark, wet and cold. Preston Class 50 440 up ex pass 22nd May 71 C618 Preston Class 47 1942 up oil tanks 22nd May 71 C619. Preston Class 50 down ex pass 22nd May 71 C624 Preston Class 104 Manchester Victoria to Blackpool Nov 71 C769 Preston East Lancs side Class 110 Nov 71 C770 David 41 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 30, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 30, 2015 Hi, Dave. A great set of photo's of the Kent and East Sussex Railway. I especially like those two of Terrier number 10 Sutton. Then some very atmospheric photo's of Preston in 1971. Interesting to see in C769 that the class 104 DMU has the white stripe at waist level to denote that it is has had some work carried out on it's bogies to help smooth the ride on certain services. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 30, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 30, 2015 Hi, Dave. A great set of photo's of the Kent and East Sussex Railway. I especially like those two of Terrier number 10 Sutton. Then some very atmospheric photo's of Preston in 1971. Interesting to see in C769 that the class 104 DMU has the white stripe at waist level to denote that it is has had some work carried out on it's bogies to help smooth the ride on certain services. All the best, Market65. I remember I often saw these at Manchester VIctoria on the longer distance dmu services, including some to Preston and Blackpool. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 30, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 30, 2015 Dave, you've jogged my memory! It was those services I was trying to think of. I think that some were 'club trains' or the '70's equivalent. With regards, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Liked the Kent and East Sussex went there on a trip recently and rode behind the Norwegian loco very pleasant railway but a heck of a trip from Bucks what with the roadworks at the tunnel and operation stack at least I have been there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Strathwood Posted August 31, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 31, 2015 Some from visits to the Kent and East Sussex in the second half of the 1970s for this afternoon. It was always a pleasant place to visit, everyone was friendly and helpful. As usual the weather was not always brilliant. The journey there from Essex could be quite slow especially as in those days there was only the original Dartford Tunnel. a Tenterden ex NSB 2-6-0 19 hauling broken down GWR railcar 20 15th May 76 C2718.jpg Tenterden ex NSB 2-6-0 19 hauling broken down GWR railcar 20 15th May 76 C2718 a Tenterden Terrier 10 Sutton Sept 77 C3547.jpg Tenterden Terrier 10 Sutton Sept 77 C3547 a Tenterden Terrier 10 Sutton taking water Sept 78 C4137.jpg Tenterden Terrier 10 Sutton taking water Sept 78 C4137 c Tenterden Bank ex NSB 19 27th Dec 76 C3161.jpg Tenterden Bank ex NSB 19 27th Dec 76 C3161 c Tenterden Bank Hunslet 24 William Austen climbing bank July 79 C4631.jpg Tenterden Bank Hunslet 24 William Austen climbing bank July 79 C4631 j Wittersham Road Hunslet 24 William Austen running round July 79 C4624.jpg Wittersham Road Hunslet 24 William Austen running round July 79 C4624 David Nice Rover 3500S in almond... Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phixer64 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Wow, just love the Rover TC in c3161 regards Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
77philg Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 ITs not the TC its the 3500 V8 although the body etc is the same there is a V8 on grill. I owned the V8S that was manual gearbox (1971) LOVED IT about 19 miles to the gallon on average disc brakes all round. Even though the V8 had twin carbs they were not called TC s . The TC was 2200cc with a cheaper interior . My Dad bought a 2200 TC second hand which was Brian Cloughs Think he only bought it to see his name on log book under previous owners. regards phil 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted August 31, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2015 Some photos on the West Highland today. As you will see the train I travelled on when I took the 1985 photos was longer than the platform at Fort William, 11 coaches plus 2 37s in all. It was one of the Whitley Bay Horticultural Society trips. Some more photos taken on the trip have appeared earlier in this topic. Bridge of Orchy view north July 73 C1348 Rannoch viaduct 37259 and 37121 heading south 11th May 85 C6884 Spean Bridge 37085 Fort William to Glagow 11th May 85 C6870 Fort William 37259 and 37121 special Fort William to Newcastle 11 coaches 11th May 85 C6881 Fort William 97251 Ethel 2 ex Class 25 11th May 85 C6878 Banavie 15th Aug 74 J3872 David 36 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 ITs not the TC its the 3500 V8 although the body etc is the same there is a V8 on grill. I owned the V8S that was manual gearbox (1971) LOVED IT about 19 miles to the gallon on average disc brakes all round. Even though the V8 had twin carbs they were not called TC s . The TC was 2200cc with a cheaper interior . My Dad bought a 2200 TC second hand which was Brian Cloughs Think he only bought it to see his name on log book under previous owners. regards phil The 3500S was one of the few cars I really wanted, along with the Daimler 250 - the one with the Jaguar MkII bodyshell - also manual. Still, I've been happy enough with the Ford Prefect 107E for the last 45 years. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted August 31, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 31, 2015 The 3500S was one of the few cars I really wanted, along with the Daimler 250 - the one with the Jaguar MkII bodyshell - also manual. Still, I've been happy enough with the Ford Prefect 107E for the last 45 years. Owning a string of 3500S's and using them for the work in Sheffield was not the most economical use of my wages, some weeks I almost got into double figures mpg wise. Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyewipe Jct Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Owning a string of 3500S's and using them for the work in Sheffield was not the most economical use of my wages, some weeks I almost got into double figures mpg wise. Mike. I had a Landy fitted with a Range Rover 3.5 V8 that was like that... ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRUNFOS Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I used to use my dads 3500s when i was 17 and just passed my test! could get wheelspin in third gear. Don't think he was to worried he gave me lessons in a 2000 xls capri, how times have changed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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