RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the GCR photo's. Seeing those of Habrough brings good memories back from cycle touring in the area during the '90's. I particularly like seeing the first photo; at Scunthorpe of class a class 40. A good reminder of how things were. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 29, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) South of Rugby on the WCML today with photos from Hillmorton, also Kilsby and Crick. As regular followers of the thread will know this was, at the time the photos were taken, for both Dad and myself our usual area to visit to see the WCML. As usual the train destinations were taken from such information as was available at the time - i.e. by working out what we though we had seen from public timetables. . Hillmorton Class 85 E3073 J814 Hillmorton Class 86 E3121 12.27 Manchester - Birmingham - Euston March 67 J831 Kilsby and Crick Class 310 Euston to Birmingham Sept 68 J1456 Hillmorton Class 86 down 70 J2109 Not "The Royal Scot" Hillmorton Class 86 Manchester to Euston May 70 J2110 David Edited March 29, 2017 by DaveF 32 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 South of Rugby on the WCML today with photos from Hillmorton, also Kilsby and Crick. As regular followers of the thread will know this was, at the time the photos were taken, for both Dad and myself our usual area to visit to see the WCML. As usual the train destinations were taken from such information as was available at the time - i.e. by working out what we though we had seen from public timetables. a Hillmorton Class 85 E3073 _J814.jpg. Hillmorton Class 85 E3073 J814 a Hillmorton Class 86 E3121 12.27 Manchester - Birmingham - Euston March 67 J831.jpg Hillmorton Class 86 E3121 12.27 Manchester - Birmingham - Euston March 67 J831 b Kilsby and Crick Class 310 Euston to Birmingham Sept 68 J1456.jpg Kilsby and Crick Class 310 Euston to Birmingham Sept 68 J1456 a Hillmorton Class 86 Euston to Glasgow The Royal Scot May 70 J2109.jpg Hillmorton Class 86 Euston to Glasgow The Royal Scot May 70 J2109 a Hillmorton Class 86 Manchester to Euston May 70 J2110.jpg Hillmorton Class 86 Manchester to Euston May 70 J2110 David Lovely photos as always David. I've always liked the early AC electrics in their electric blue liveries as they did look rather smart. Best regards, Jeremy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Hi Dave I doubt J2109 is the 'Royal Scot' as the headcode for that working is 1S57 its possibly the next booked service or a relief. Love that electric blue in the earlier shots, why can't these modern designers come up with the goods nowadays!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 29, 2017 Hi, Dave. An excellent set of photo's of the WCML. In J2109, which is a train - not The Royal Scot - hauled by an unidentified 86 at Hillmorton, I see the two BG's are riding on BR1 bogies. I remember reading an account in Modern Railways, from a few years later, of just how rough riding those Mk1 vehicles on the WCML could be at 100 mph. I wonder why the bogies were not changed to either Commonwealth or B4 bogies upon elecrtrification of that main line? With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted March 29, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) Wow, what have they done to Cleethorpes (C25003)? Is there more than that one platform face still with track? Edited March 29, 2017 by brushman47544 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted March 29, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 29, 2017 I think they did but some BGs on B4 bogies, but presumably the parcels and post didn't complain too much about the rough ride. Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 29, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) Wow, what have they done to Cleethorpes (C25003)? Is there more than that one platform face still with track? From memory I think there are three platforms in use. Google Earth shows a track alongside a fourth platform face but I don't know if it is used for passengers. David Edited March 29, 2017 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davknigh Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Interesting to see the speed restrictions and the check rail on the curve in C15869. On most model railways that size of curve would be considered extravagant! Cheers, David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 30, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) I don't think we've had photos from the Grassington branch recently, so here are a few more. Embsay Junction BR Class 4 75041 freight Grassington to Skipton May 66 J515 Cracoe Quarry Class 12 Aug 73 C1383 Grassington BR Class 4MT 75039 Aug 65 J291 Grassington Class 4 75041 Dec 66 J720 Grassington BR Class 4 75021 in green July 67 J944 Edited to correct shunter class. David Edited March 30, 2017 by DaveF 60 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 C1383, what colour 'should' that shunter be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2017 Hi, Dave. Fascinating photos of the Grassington branch in the last years of BR steam. Everything, including the wagons, is filthy, and covered in lots of rust! I always wonder how the trains kept running in those abysmal conditions. But please keep these stark reminders of those last years of BR steam coming. They are so valuable to all those who never experienced them. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 C1383, what colour 'should' that shunter be? I think it was in Tilcon's house colour, which was a pale blue, possibly with maroon detailing. I looked to see if there were any colour photos of their wagon fleet, without success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 If we weathered a shunter like that, it would get mocked...yet there it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2017 Evening David is the 11 not actually an ex southern class 12? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balders Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Evening David is the 11 not actually an ex southern class 12? 15231.......the class 11 was 12083 Regards Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2017 Evening David is the 11 not actually an ex southern class 12? 15231 IIRC. Mike. Snap!! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted March 30, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2017 Evening David is the 11 not actually an ex southern class 12? I agree with Russ, Guy and Mike The box pox wheels, the buffers low on the buffer beam, SR six lights and lamp irons and windscreen wiper are all features of a SR 350 hp (class 12). The buffers are lower on the buffer beam owing to the loco being slightly higher than a class 11 due to the larger wheel diameter. The lights and windscreen wiper were later fittings, not carried when new. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leander Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 m Grassington BR Class 4 75021 in green July 67 J944.jpg Grassington BR Class 4 75021 in green July 67 J944 How can they tell? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 30, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) Evening David is the 11 not actually an ex southern class 12? 15231.......the class 11 was 12083 Regards Guy 15231 IIRC. Mike. Snap!! Mike. I agree with Russ, Guy and Mike The box pox wheels, the buffers low on the buffer beam, SR six lights and lamp irons and windscreen wiper are all features of a SR 350 hp (class 12). The buffers are lower on the buffer beam owing to the loco being slightly higher than a class 11 due to the larger wheel diameter. The lights and windscreen wiper were later fittings, not carried when new. Many thanks for letting me know I'd managed to get a loco class wrong, yet again. I can't think of a good excuse this time, but it wasn't a typing error, I had it wrong in my slide catalogue as well. Now, as for the colour of 75021: How can they tell? I've got other photos of the loco, taken on the same day which shows it really was green. There are some earlier in this thread. David Edited March 30, 2017 by DaveF 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted March 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2017 Hey David,do not worry about getting a class of loco wrong. It's an awful long time ago and a class of loco which looks very much like another. Your picture thread is absolutely fantastic and i really do look forward to it every day, there have been pictures on there about railways I'd only ever heard brief details about such as the electrified lines in dorman Long's on Teesside. Have you any early preservation pictures of the North Norfolk railway as we have had one picture of a female volunteer Keep up the good work David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 30, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2017 Hey David,do not worry about getting a class of loco wrong. It's an awful long time ago and a class of loco which looks very much like another. Your picture thread is absolutely fantastic and i really do look forward to it every day, there have been pictures on there about railways I'd only ever heard brief details about such as the electrified lines in dorman Long's on Teesside. Have you any early preservation pictures of the North Norfolk railway as we have had one picture of a female volunteer Keep up the good work David Many thanks for the comment. I do have photos of the North Norfolk taken in October 1977, on my only visit to the railway. Several of them show a young lady cleaning the J15. At that time the loco was in GER grey They will appear here in due course, when I get them corrected and captioned. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Pilmoor Class 40 D277 up freight March 67 J782 What a lovely freight! Insulated van at the front and three Lowmacs apparently loaded with some military vehicles. And lots of other variety. I don't think they are military vehicles, they appear to have two windows in the side, and note the yellow panels on the rear. They are BR leyland FG crew buses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinWalsh Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Re:- C1383 This pic shows that my 7&1/4 Class 12 15243 (see avatar) is stunning clean by comparison Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2017 Many thanks for the comment. I do have photos of the North Norfolk taken in October 1977, on my only visit to the railway. Several of them show a young lady cleaning the J15. At that time the loco was in GER grey They will appear here in due course, when I get them corrected and captioned. David Don't correct them David, it will do us out of a job! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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