RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 22, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2018 2018 for RMWeb Christmas Card.jpg 2 Voyagers at Buston Barns, Northumberland David And to you David, its always a highlight of my day to see tour photo post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Behind the power car is a retaining wall the platforms were island platforms which are not far in front of the train! Thanks, Mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 2018 for RMWeb Christmas Card.jpg 2 Voyagers at Buston Barns, Northumberland David Thanks, David. Much appreciation for your efforts again, throughout 2018. It's such a joy to look at this thread every evening. Wishing you season's greetings and best wishes for your good health and happiness throughout 2019. Best regards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 23, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) Today we return to Sewstern and Market Overton on the ex BSC ironstone lines beyond the end of the High Dyke branch. Once again they were taken during the short lived preservation period. Edit - It is always a good idea to add the photos before posting! Market Overton Avonside Fred and Class 03 D2381 Oct 73 C1418 Market Overton Barclay No1 Glenfield 7th Sept 75 C2435 Sewstern Peckett 1158 ballast April 73 J3172 Sewstern 03 D2381 Flying Scotsman spare boiler Oct 73 J3421 Sewstern Avonside Fred Aug 74 J4003 Sewstern 03 D2381 and Avonside Fred Oct 74 J4055 David Edited December 23, 2018 by DaveF 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdlcs Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Re: C13919. The GUV is in Royal Mail livery, albeit unbranded, has dual brakes (the X in the TOPS code), yet is still sitting on BR1 bogies. Unusual? I would have assumed that by that date anything that was DB and merited a repaint would have been on 100mph bogies, whether Commonwealth or B4/B5. Re: J3421. Never mind the spare boiler, I wonder if the wagon it is sitting on still exists? Forget what they were called, but I think were built for carrying armour plate and were unusual in having three axle bogies and side chains adjacent to the coupling hook. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Re: C13919. The GUV is in Royal Mail livery, albeit unbranded, has dual brakes (the X in the TOPS code), yet is still sitting on BR1 bogies. Unusual? I would have assumed that by that date anything that was DB and merited a repaint would have been on 100mph bogies, whether Commonwealth or B4/B5. Re: J3421. Never mind the spare boiler, I wonder if the wagon it is sitting on still exists? Forget what they were called, but I think were built for carrying armour plate and were unusual in having three axle bogies and side chains adjacent to the coupling hook. They were built to carry the 'Super Sherman' tank that the Americans were supposed to be building. In the end, the tanks were never built, and the vehicles were eventually sold to BR, after being on loan since Nationalisation. I don't know of them being used for armour-plate, but BSC Landore used them to send 65t ingot moulds around the country into the early 1980s. The code was Flatrol WLL/MLL or ELL, depending on the regional allocation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Re: J3421. Never mind the spare boiler, I wonder if the wagon it is sitting on still exists? Forget what they were called, but I think were built for carrying armour plate and were unusual in having three axle bogies and side chains adjacent to the coupling hook. Yes would love to know if this still existed. There was one at Carnforth but they destroyed a lot of stuff there including a unique Esso bogie diesel shunter so I don't hold out much hope for their version of this Flatrol - possibly the same wagon as this? https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/paulbartlettsrailwaywagonphotographs/e34c1942b Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Try searching for it here? http://ukprsl.uk/ Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted December 23, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2018 Yes would love to know if this still existed. There was one at Carnforth but they destroyed a lot of stuff there including a unique Esso bogie diesel shunter so I don't hold out much hope for their version of this Flatrol - possibly the same wagon as this? https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/paulbartlettsrailwaywagonphotographs/e34c1942b Paul The one at Carnforth was probably the one in the Sewstern photo as almost everything from the Market Overton collection (which were mainly Bill McAlpine's and Jon Gretton's) went to Carnforth along with Flying Scotsman and Pendennis Castle. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 23, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 Around Grantham for this afternoon's batch. Grantham Class 46 192 up car transporters Oct 71 J2783 Taken from the bridge on the old A1. Grantham Class 47 1503 Leeds to Kings X May 72 J2925 Grantham Class 47 Kings X to Edinburgh Jan 77 J5618 Grantham 254024 up June 80 J6959 Grantham 55014 Kings X to Hull June 80 J6966 David 35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 23, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 This one got missed out when I did this morning's images. Sewstern Pullmans SECR Sept 73 C1407 David 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted December 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) J5618 great picture, taken just at the right moment as the driver gives it the beans! Merry Christmas to you Dave, thanks for all of your pictures and the time you take to share them with us. Even if they are sometimes ordinary or mundane scenes, there is always a wealth of background and incedental detail to be had from them and as a whole, are a valuable record of the BR era. Edited December 23, 2018 by keefer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted December 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 23, 2018 J5618 looks like 47549, but could be 546 (there was no 548). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted December 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2018 The Sewstern saga seems quite an interesting episode in preservation histoty, was/is there a book or in depth article covering it? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted December 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2018 Hi, Dave. I like the Market Overton and Sewstern photo’s, which are so full of interest and intrigue. In C2435, at Market Overton with Barclay No1 Glenfield, a crane engine, on the 7th September, 1975, the engine is something which is rarely seen and hardly ever modelled. Perhaps a crane engine, RTR, might one day happen. The Grantham photo’s are delightful and capture just how things were back in those days on BR. What a lovely shot of a Deltic plus eight in the last photo’, of 55014, which is on a Kings Cross to Hull express in June, 1980. It can soon be well recreated in 4mm scale thanks to the Accurascale model of the Deltics, which should be in the shops by late next year. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted December 23, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2018 The Sewstern saga seems quite an interesting episode in preservation histoty, was/is there a book or in depth article covering it? Mike. I did an article for Heritage Railway some years ago but cannot remember which issue. It outlined the project and the proposed role of the High Dyke branch. There is a little bit about it in Eric Tonks' books on the Ironstone Lines - The Ironstone Quarries of the Midlands Part VII Rutland (for Market Overton) and Part VIII South Lincolnshire (Sewstern). The books are a fascinating history of Ironstone Quarrying and the associated railways. They are now published by Booklaw. The project did not continue for a combination of reasons. I don't know everything and I think that as almost all the people involved are now dead the full story will never be told. The project would have involved individuals, at least one big company and the local land owners. At the time (1974/5) the economic outlook was very unclear and taxation policy was felt to be likely to change. As it was intended to keep mainline locos at Market Overton a main line connection either at High Dyke or Saxby Junction was essential, British Rail required very large sums of money to retain a connection at High Dyke or to reinstate one at Saxby. This would have far outweighed the likely revenue from a connection. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted December 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 23, 2018 J5618 looks like 47549, but could be 546 (there was no 548). Neither of those seem to fit the bill on underframe detail when looking up on class47.co.uk. Most around those numbers were York locos and 544 is a possibilty. As for 548 not existing, it was allocated to 125 which was never converted, it being the loco on the tanker train that burnt in Summit tunnel, although it survived. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted December 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 23, 2018 Neither of those seem to fit the bill on underframe detail when looking up on class47.co.uk. Most around those numbers were York locos and 544 is a possibilty. As for 548 not existing, it was allocated to 125 which was never converted, it being the loco on the tanker train that burnt in Summit tunnel, although it survived. Dave Thanks for the underframe info; didn’t look at photos. It’s definately 4754x, and the last digit is different to the one before, so not 544. Possibly 545 if the underframe detail is wrong for 546/549? I didn’t say 548 didn’t exist btw, just that no loco carried it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted December 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 23, 2018 Do those 12 wheel Pullmans still exist? Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullie Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Happy Christmas Dave and thank you for continuing to post. Like many I look forward to my daily fix. Martyn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Dread Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) Do those 12 wheel Pullmans still exist? Keith Here's a photo I took in Roker, Sunderland in 2016. As you can see because they are VERY close to the sea, the salt in the air is playing havoc and they may not be there for very long. Edited December 24, 2018 by Judge Dread 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted December 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) Here's a photo I took in Roker, Sunderland in 2016. As you can see because they are VERY close to the sea, the salt in the air is playing havoc and they may not be there for very long. They could do with being rescued by a preservation group as they not exactly common. Keith Edited December 24, 2018 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 24, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) Back to Teesside this afternoon, this time at Grangetown with both trains and parts of the cokeworks. Grangetown 12th Oct 85 C7216 Grangetown 12th Oct 85 C7224 Grangetown Class 101 51204 and 51502 Darlington to Saltburn 26th Feb 87 C8225 Grangetown 20174 and 20173 empty steel 26th Feb 87 C8226 Grangetown BSC 270 26th Feb 87 C8227 Grangetown 37512 down empty steel 26th Feb 87 C8228 David Edited December 24, 2018 by DaveF 28 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 24, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 24, 2018 Superb David, always love your teesside pictures great memories for me in that period. On the 12th October 85 I was in Dutton forshaw buying my first MG metro! All the best David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
seahorse Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Happy Christmas, David. Thanks for all your posts. From one of your regular viewers Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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