Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[DaveF]

35 minutes ago, iands said:

Didn't notice in the original b&w photo but there seems to be an unusually large number of "onlookers", even for wrong line working (even if they knew what that was), was there something special due to pass? 

 

Sir Nigel Gresley was due on a northbound charter.

 

Pilmoor often had quite a lot of people taking photos in good weather though.

 

David

[corneliuslundie]

And in colour the "weathering" of the loco is quite impressive. Definitely one would be criticised if one weathered a model that much.

Jonathan

[35A]

1 hour ago, corneliuslundie said:

And in colour the "weathering" of the loco is quite impressive. Definitely one would be criticised if one weathered a model that much.

Jonathan

 

It was a Gateshead locomotive, at the time (moved to York the following month). 

 

Interestingly (well, I thought so), when looking that up, I noticed that it was delivered new to Gateshead before later transferring to York (North). It then returned to Gateshead and back to York a couple more times before withdrawal, those being its only homes.

[St Enodoc]

10 hours ago, iands said:

was there something special due to pass? 

Yes, a couple of Hawksworth coaches...

[BernardTPM]

14 hours ago, Market65 said:

That first one of a class 40, D278, on a down passenger train on the up fast line, on the 20th August,1967, has the following carriages at the front.

First carriage is a Hawksworth BCK, then a Hawksworth SK, followed by a Stanier SK and a Stanier CK - possibly a Porthole example. Mk1’s follow on after those four.

The third coach is the post-war type with extra corrdor side doors (the footsteps are more obvious than the doors themselves) and also appears to have maroon rather than black ends as late maroon repaints had.

[DaveF]

Further south on the ECML today, from Stoke Bank to just south of Retford.

 

 

Near Stoke Summit Class 254 HST up Feb 83 C5948

 

 

Great Ponton Class 47 down Nov 68 J1503

 

 

Grantham Class 254 Kings X to Newcastle and Class 114 to Nottngham in bay.  June 80 J6969

 

 

Dry Doddington Class 254 up Feb 81 J7327

 

 

Eaton Lane Crossing Gamston Class 43 down 9th June 95 C20238

 

 

David

Edited April 23, 2022 by DaveF

[62613]

There is just something about winter and late autumn photos!

 

[Market65]

Good evening, David. That’s a delightful selection of photo’s of the ECML from Stoke Bank to just south of Retford. In J1503, at Great Ponton, with a class 47 on a down service in November, 1968, unless I am seeing things you can make out one or two of the reading lights in some of the compartments of the Mk1 carriages.

 

With warmest regards,

 

 Rob.

[DaveF]

Brighton around seventy years ago in black and white.   All the photos are Dad's, I was a bit young to have a camera then.

 

 

Brighton  SR K2 32342 l e c1950 JVol3159

 

 

Brighton 10001 c1954 JVol7203

 

 

Brighton 10203 l e c1954 JVol7198

 

 

Brighton A1X Brighton Works 377S l e c1951 JVol7096

 

 

Brighton Brighton Class H1 4-4-2 32039 Hartland Point with sleeve valves 1950 JM82a_Brighton

 

 

Brighton Leader class power bogie Oct 49 JVol6049

 

 

David

Edited April 23, 2022 by DaveF

[corneliuslundie]

Wow

Jonathan

[Market65]

Good afternoon, David. What a simply superb set of photo’s, as taken by your Dad, of Brighton. They show some remarkable scenes, and thank goodness he took those photo’s. The last photo’ of one of the Leader class power bogies, as in October, 1949, is showing details which I’ve never seen before. I doubt many others have seen one of those bogies before. Thank you for posting those excellent photo’s.

 

With warmest regards,

 

 Rob.

[RFS]

Nice picture of a pristine 10203 (JVol7198) but the picture must date from 1954 when this particular loco was outshopped from Brighton Works.  Its condition is in stark contrast with that of 10001 which looks sorely in need of a clean, especially the windows!  10000/1 were on the Southern from April 1953 till April 1955 so the photo must date from that period, perhaps taken at the same time as that of 10203? It has been fitted already with the additional lamp brackets to allow for SR route discs. 

 

Brings back memories of a 2-week family holiday in 1954 when I was 9. We were staying west of Sailsbury close enough to the West of England main line where these diesels were very much in use (on trial presumably). 

Edited October 23, 2021 by RFS

[DaveF]

1 hour ago, RFS said:

Nice picture of a pristine 10203 (JVol7198) but the picture must date from 1954 when this particular loco was outshopped from Brighton Works.  Its condition is in stark contrast with that of 10001 which looks sorely in need of a clean, especially the windows!  10000/1 were on the Southern from April 1953 till April 1955 so the photo must date from that period, perhaps taken at the same time as that of 10203? It has been fitted already with the additional lamp brackets to allow for SR route discs. 

 

Brings back memories of a 2-week family holiday in 1954 when I was 9. We were staying west of Sailsbury close enough to the West of England main line where these diesels were very much in use (on trial presumably). 

 

Many thanks for correcting the date Roger, it is most helpful.  I've amended the captions.

 

I had forgotten that 10203 was outshopped in 1954.

 

Sadly Dad only dated a few of his black and white photos so it is always "interesting" when captioning them.  At least he almost always recorded locations.

 

The photo must have been taken either around Easter or August of that year as the only times we went to Brighton were on family holidays.  

 

David

[St Enodoc]

14 hours ago, DaveF said:

 

Brighton Brighton Class H1 4-4-2 32039 Hartland Point with sleeve valves 1950 JM82a_Brighton

Lovers' Walk inspection shed in the background.

[DaveF]

 

Some photos from the Nene Valley Railway for this morning.

 

 

Orton Mere 73050  May 81 J7371

 

 

Wansford  73050 and 70000   May 81 J7365

 

 

Wansford  Hudswell Clarke 2 Thomas   DB 64305   Avonside Pitsford  DSB 656  SJ 2-6-4T  May 81 J7363

 

 

Wansford BR Class 5 73050 ecs 27th April 75 C2010

 

 

Wansford SJ 1928 May 81 J7379

 

 

Wansford Swedish Class S 1178 Aug 77 C3525

 

 

David

Edited April 23, 2022 by DaveF

[DaveF]

 

It's the 29th May 1996, we are in Yorkshire looking around the Milford Junction area.

 

Obviously it is before Real Time trains started so we have to wait and see what turns up.

 

 

Milford Junction 59203 up coal 29th May 96 C20930

 

 

Gascoigne Wood 155347 Hull to Leeds 29th May 96 C20937

 

 

Hagg Lane level crossing 158764 up pass 29th May 96 C20947

 

 

Milford Junction 58030 down emptiess 29th May 96 C20954

 

 

Milford Junction 56045 up freightliner 29th May 96 C20979

 

 

David

 

 

 

Edited April 23, 2022 by DaveF

[beast66606]

3 hours ago, DaveF said:

Obviously it is before Real Time trains started so we have to wait and see what turns up.

 

 

Milford Junction used to be fantastic, 58s bringing Scottish coal South and the 56s swapping onto the train and taking it onwards to the power stations, the 58 taking empties back North. Sadly I just missed the 59s working there. Watching the junctions swing over was a good way of knowing where the next train was coming from although you could still get caught out. At times it was incredibly busy with trains queuing on several lines to pass through.

Sadly while it still sees traffic it's a shadow of it's former self and of course the bridge was replaced and now needs steps to see over the sides.

[Market65]

Good evening, David. That’s a most excellent selection of photo’s of the Nene Valley Railway. In J7379, at Wansford, with SJ, 1928, in May, 1981, that’s a delightful portrait shot of that engine.

The Milford Junction photo’s are as interesting as ever, and in C20947, at Hagg Lane level crossing, with 158764 on a Leeds service, on the 29th May, 1996, I believe that is the up direction with trains to Hull going down the line. 
 

With warmest regards,

 

 Rob.

[DaveF]

1 hour ago, Market65 said:

Good evening, David. That’s a most excellent selection of photo’s of the Nene Valley Railway. In J7379, at Wansford, with SJ, 1928, in May, 1981, that’s a delightful portrait shot of that engine.

The Milford Junction photo’s are as interesting as ever, and in C20947, at Hagg Lane level crossing, with 158764 on a Leeds service, on the 29th May, 1996, I believe that is the up direction with trains to Hull going down the line. 
 

With warmest regards,

 

 Rob.

 

 

Thanks Rob.

 

David

[talisman56]

J7363 - One of the SEGs 4COR power cars on the right...

[DaveF]

 

Another ECML collection from south of Grantham to just south of Retford.

 

All of the photos are of HSTs but look closely and spot the differences.

 

 

Great Ponton Class 254 down 30th May 78 C3886

 

 

Grantham 254027 up Bradford to Kings X June 80 J6962

 

 

Peascliffe Tunnel Class 254 up July 83 J8000

 

 

Dry Doddington Class 254 down May 87 J8897

 

 

Gamston Class 254 HST up Oct 82 C5865

 

 

David

Edited April 23, 2022 by DaveF

[Market65]

Good afternoon, David. That’s a great selection of photo’s of HST’s on the ECML. The differences are basically power car roof deflectors, buffet cars, TGs’s, and the number of TS’s.  They started with no deflectors or TGS’s, and had two restaurant cars. Then, in the early ‘80’s, the TGS’s were introduced, and catering provision was reduced, mostly, to one buffet car. Apart from the NE - SW sets, first class remained at two TF’s. So, those changes can be seen in this afternoon’s photo’s. 

In J6962, at Grantham, with 254027 on an up Bradford to Kings Cross express, in June, 1980, just from looking at the photo’, you wouldn’t think it was June with all the cloud, damp and gloomy weather.

 

With warmest regards,

 

 Rob.

[Davexoc]

6 hours ago, DaveF said:

Gamston Class 254 HST up Oct 82 C5865

 

Is that a WR set, or just 1 vehicle short?

It isn't an XC set as it has two firsts.

[DaveF]

32 minutes ago, Davexoc said:

 

Is that a WR set, or just 1 vehicle short?

It isn't an XC set as it has two firsts.

 

C5865 at Gamston.

All I know is that it was on its way to Kings Cross.

 

Sory I can't be more helpful.

 

David

[St Enodoc]

2 hours ago, Davexoc said:

 

Is that a WR set, or just 1 vehicle short?

It isn't an XC set as it has two firsts.

Probably one short.