phixer64 Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Wow, have a look at St. Pancras, it looked at dirty hell hole back then.. i remember going there to see some Peaks, and it was even darker then. Looks like a different place now. Keep the excellent pics coming. Regards Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted March 17, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) Wow, have a look at St. Pancras, it looked a dirty hell hole back then.. Going back further to when I was trainspotting as a lad in the late 1950s, everything that moved was steam. And as a result of the Midland's "small engine policy", every train over 8 coaches was double-headed. Those were the days! Edited March 17, 2016 by RFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I can remember the BRCW Type 2's (Class 27's) banking the Peaks out of the station on some of the longer trains in the early sixties and my memories of it then was that it was rather run down and dirty. Much more interesting then though! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 That picture of the 47 on the coaches, can you get a better look at the coaches behind it? If they only have 7 windows they will be the ex first class ones that had the seating changed for airline style 2nd class, and we're used on the derby trains mainly for commuters. Unless something had gone wrong that day the chance of seeing loco hauled on the London Sheffield run was remote. They preferred to do a quick turn round of a incoming HST instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest B Exam Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 That picture of the 47 on the coaches, can you get a better look at the coaches behind it? If they only have 7 windows they will be the ex first class ones that had the seating changed for airline style 2nd class, and we're used on the derby trains mainly for commuters. Unless something had gone wrong that day the chance of seeing loco hauled on the London Sheffield run was remote. They preferred to do a quick turn round of a incoming HST instead. Quite a few times, the 1F48 19.30 St Pancras to Sheffield service was loco-hauled vice HST after the HST had been pinched earlier in the day to work elsewhere. If I remember correctly, the LHCS did Derby-St Pancras on its normal diagram, then 2 round trips to Sheffield before working 1F48 back to Sheffield. Certainly in early 1990, the remaining 'Generator' 47/4s allocated to the Intercity sector were regular performers. I had 47406/407/413/417 and 47418 on the 19.30 from St Pancras. Later, more common Crewe based 47s became regular workers of the train with the odd Eastfield/Inverness Intercity sector interloper appearing when they had escaped south of the border - 47550 and 47595 being prime examples had for haulage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted March 18, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2016 I can remember the BRCW Type 2's (Class 27's) banking the Peaks out of the station on some of the longer trains in the early sixties and my memories of it then was that it was rather run down and dirty. Much more interesting then though! Hi Grahame Trains were not banked out of St Pancras. The loco that brought in the empty stock would keep buffered up to the out going train then drop off either at Kentish Town or Cricklewood ready to bring in the next empty train, a practice from the days of Fowler tanks working ECS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 18, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2016 That picture of the 47 on the coaches, can you get a better look at the coaches behind it? If they only have 7 windows they will be the ex first class ones that had the seating changed for airline style 2nd class, and we're used on the derby trains mainly for commuters. Unless something had gone wrong that day the chance of seeing loco hauled on the London Sheffield run was remote. They preferred to do a quick turn round of a incoming HST instead. I think I made a note of the train's destination from the platform departure boards, so it must have been an HST substitute. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 18, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 18, 2016 (edited) A look at Stoke on Trent today. The photos were taken in February 1972, during a time of powercuts. Those who were around then will remember what it was like. Despite the day being very dark and gloomy until quite late on there were hardly any lights on in buildings. The heating was not on in electric trains either. Stoke on Trent Class 86 Euston to Manchester Piccadilly 12th Feb 72 C0823 Stoke on Trent 310 077 Birmingham New St to Manchester Piccadilly 12th Feb 72 C825 Stoke on Trent Class 120 Lincoln to Crewe 12th Feb 72 C826 Stoke on Trent Station frontage 12th Feb 72 C0828 Stoke on Trent view south, Class 104 leaving for Derby 12th Feb 72 C0830 Stoke on Trent north end of overall roof 12th Feb 72 C0832 David Edited March 18, 2016 by DaveF 41 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 18, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2016 (edited) I'm not sure what happened here, I was trying to edit the post above. Edited March 18, 2016 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 18, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2016 Hi, Dave. A great selection of photo's of Stoke on Trent today. I particularly like the one of the station frontage, for it was very grand even in the early seventies. I well remember the power cuts. We had to go to the local electricity shop to get the times of the cuts. It was low, medium and high for the risk of cuts happening. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 No pics of the freight yard next to the station? I can just about remember the sidings there and it's resident 03s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted March 18, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2016 I don;t know Stoke but it looks as if it would make a manageable model for someone who fancied tackling the main station building. Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 18, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2016 No pics of the freight yard next to the station? I can just about remember the sidings there and it's resident 03s It was on the list for a subsequent visit, but I never got around to it, in part because I ended up working in Lincolnshire after completing my PGCE in Manchester. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 18, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2016 (edited) Was this the power cut era when Stoke had a few Claytons ready to act as standby generators at the steelworks? Mike. Edited March 18, 2016 by Enterprisingwestern Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted March 18, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2016 (edited) The building to the extreme right on C0830 was my base for several months up to about two weeks before the photo was taken. Looks like the Oakamoor trains had been putting down a lot of sand on the Down Goods, they used to stop right outside our window. Edited March 18, 2016 by TheSignalEngineer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted March 19, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) Hi, Dave. Sorry for the late reply, but I have been moving house today. Those are really great photos of the Settle to Carlisle line. Very atmospheric, and I wasn't fully aware that BR standard 4mt 80080 had worked a special train over the line. That certainly is a great photo of the engine. With warmest regards, Rob. It wasn't a one-off special. 80080 worked a number of Carlisle-Kirkby Stephen return trips over a few weeks. They were for crew training purposes but advertised as public services. Cheers, Mick Edited March 19, 2016 by newbryford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 19, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) Stratford (Great Eastern) today with photos taken in March and July 1979. The July photos were taken during an Open Day. When I went to the Open Day I left the car at Shenfield and went on the train. When I arrived back at Shenfield in the late afternoon I got off the train and went to the exit where there was the usual ticket collector. That was when I discovered that I had lost my ticket somewhere between Stratford and Shenfield. The ticket collector looked at me carefully, asked what was in a bag I was carrying - which was full of railway books and a replica works plate and decided I was probably honest and waved me through. Stratford 312787 up pass March 79 C4374 Stratford 306014 down pass March 79 C4377 Stratford MPD breakdown crane ADRC 96701 July 79 C4636 Stratford MPD 313033 July 79 C4643 Stratford MPD 40176 July 79 C4652 David Edited March 19, 2016 by DaveF 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted March 19, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2016 C4374 Didn't the 312s look good in all blue? For those modellers who model there trains with illuminated headcodes, note how bright the bulbs are where the blinds are missing and how much light is being shone through the blinds in the middle. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 19, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2016 Hi, Dave. Some excellent photo's of Stratford. There is quite a difference between the cab ends of the class 312 and class 306 units! Great to see the photo's of the Stratford open day. Love them. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted March 19, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2016 Thank you Dave, Stratford MPD breakdown crane July 79 C4636 is ADRC 96701. I spent a lot of time helping to repair it if it went wrong hence my RMweb name and my avatar of said crane. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 20, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2016 Some Bluebell railway photos for today's first set. Some from 1964, some from 1975. Sheffield Park LBSCR Class E5 473 Birch Grove April 64 J107 Sheffield Park SECR Class P No 27 April 64 J106 Sheffield Park view north from LNWR observation car April 64 J111 Sheffield Park SECR Class C 592 Dec 75 C2541 Freshfield Halt (site of) SECR Class C 592 Horsted Keynes to Sheffield Park Dec 75 C2545 Horsted Keynes Dec 75 C2548 David 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 20, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) (Yet) Another visit to Swayfield this evening at various dates in the early 1970s. For much of this period I lived about 15 minutes drive away, which is why I have so many photos taken there. Swayfield Class 55 possibly 9001 St Paddy Leeds to Kings X Dec 71 C773 Swayfield Class 31 up car carriers June 72 C979 Swayfield Class 47 1993 Bradford to Kings X July 72 C1011 Swayfield Class 47 down ex pass probably 12.20 Kings X to Cleethorpes Jan 74 C1455 Swayfield Class 47 up ex pass10.45 Aberdeen to Kings X The Aberdonian May 74 C1610 David Edited March 21, 2016 by DaveF 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapland Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Another great set of pictures. Is the red and only car on the car transporter in C979 a Morgan or perhaps a Jag. I can't quite work it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 20, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 20, 2016 Another great set of pictures. Is the red and only car on the car transporter in C979 a Morgan or perhaps a Jag. I can't quite work it out. I've always wondered which make and model of car it is. It wasn't any clearer on the original slide. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 20, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 20, 2016 Hi, Dave. I love the Bluebell Railway photos, it is amazing how the line has developed over the years. The ECML at Swayfield is as fascinating as ever. Interesting how green livered locos could be seen relatively late on. I know they would soon be gone and repainted into blue. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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