RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) Updating my own post! D1575 Pride of Tinsley at Kings Cross. Perhaps Mark can elucidate as to what train it had worked in on? 1A12. Mike. Edited January 15, 2017 by Enterprisingwestern 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 15, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 15, 2017 Updating my own post! D1575 Pride of Tinsley at Kings Cross. Perhaps Mark can elucidate as to what train it had worked in on? 1A12. 1-MSP - 145 - 1575 Kings Cross.jpg Mike. Hi Mike I bet it was a day when I wasn't spotting at Bedford and the Master Cutler went through with a cop on the front. That thing always was on the Master Cutler. We stopped saying the "Culter is due soon" to "1575 is running late today." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Updating my own post! D1575 Pride of Tinsley at Kings Cross. Perhaps Mark can elucidate as to what train it had worked in on? 1A12. 1-MSP - 145 - 1575 Kings Cross.jpg In 1971, whilst in that style of blue, 1575 was a not-infrequent visitor on the ECML. Aside from seeing it on the Midland Lines I recorded it on six occasions on the ECML, on 9th March, 5th May, 26th May (hauling fellow Tinsley locos 1531 and 1568, dead in tow, possibly to/from Stratford DRS), 1st June, 16th October and 21st October. I'm sure that there were several others! Unfortunately, I hadn't started logging the diagrams in 1971. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark54 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Updating my own post! D1575 Pride of Tinsley at Kings Cross. Perhaps Mark can elucidate as to what train it had worked in on? 1A12. 1-MSP - 145 - 1575 Kings Cross.jpg Mike. Depends on the date. For the May 1969 and May 1970 timetables it was the 08:10 Newcastle-KX. In the May 1971 TT it was the 09:03 Cleethorpes-KX. In May 1972 1A12 wasn't allocated. As the 08:10 was an air-braked train I would go for the 09:03 from Cleethorpes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 15, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2017 Somewhat later than usual today. I'll start with a few photos from the Talyllyn Railway in August 1979. Tywyn Wharf Hughes 3 Sir Haydn10th Aug 79 C4791 Tywyn Pendre Ruston Hornsby 8 Merseysider and 5 Midlander 10th Aug 79 C4790 Tywyn Pendre 3 Sir Haydn ecs 10th Aug 79 C4777 Dolgoch Kerr Stuart 4 Edward Thomas 10th Aug 79 C4788 Nant Gwernol Fletcher Jennings 1 Talyllyn 10th Aug 79 C4779 Nant Gwernol Hughes 3 Sir Haydn 10th Aug 79 C4784 David 29 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 15, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2017 A few photos at York for today's BR batch. ork A3 4472 Flying Scotsman up light engine Oct 66 J674 York Class 40 40070 KWVR special Colne to York Sat 7 Apr 79 C4386 York 55003 Meld Sat 7th April 79 C4400 York 254024 ecs for special York to Stratford via Ipswich Sat 7th April 79 C4411 York 55018 York to Kings X May 81 81 C5359 David 38 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2017 Excellent pictures David Unusual to see a yellow horn grille on a blue and grey power car Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 15, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 15, 2017 The photos of the Talyllyn Railway make me wonder how they got around the continuous brake issue. I can see that the locos have got RCH style jumper cables front and rear, presumably for controlling the brakes, but how did they work? Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) its only after preservation that the talyllyn had continuous braking, the locos were fitted with air brake pumps, and theyre not cables, they are the brake pipes Edited January 15, 2017 by sir douglas 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2017 Hi, Dave. I love the Talyllyn Railway photos - I am not sure how the brakes worked. A good selection of photos from York. I like that one of Meld, a lovely portrait. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2017 And C4386 - those lucky KWVR boys get the luxury of a BFK in their excursion rake.... Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 15, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 15, 2017 its only after preservation that the talyllyn had continuous braking, the locos were fitted with air brake pumps, and theyre not cables, they are the brake pipes So I presume that the RCH cable housings are modified to take the pipework. I would have thought it would have been easier to just use proper air brake pipes.... Thanks Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2017 I believe the RCH cables predate the air brake,I'm sure I've read somewhere that the cables if parted would cause a bell to ring denoting a divided train and the brakevan was always at the tywyn end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 15, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) Regarding my Talyllyn photos today, post 8901. William McConnel formed the Aberdovey Slate Quarry Company in 1864 which then leased the land including Bryn Eglws Quarry. Later that year he was able to start construction of the Talyllyn Railway from the quarry to Tywyn. He managed to obtain an exemption from the 1889 Regulation of Railways Act which stated that passenger trains had to be fitted with continuous brakes, on the ground that speeds were low and the cost would bankrupt his company. By the late 1990s the Railway Inspectorate insisted that the Talyllyn Railway should comply with the act. The last locomotive was fitted with air brake equipment to provide train braking in 2001. So my photos were taken before the days of continuous brakes. Source: Wikipdiea plus my own knowledge gathered over the years from various publications. Edit: This link gives more detail. You need to click on the first post by John S Robinson. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/uk.railway/lA_WU3FA8G4 David Edited January 15, 2017 by DaveF 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy_anorak59 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) On 15/01/2017 at 18:09, russ p said: Excellent pictures David Unusual to see a yellow horn grille on a blue and grey power car Snap! Seems it wasn't always yellow... Edited July 21, 2022 by billy_anorak59 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 16, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) We'll travel to Barkston today, by car as the station has been closed for many years. The pictures date from late 1969 and early 1970. The last four are on the ECML. Barkston 2 Class 20s coal heading towards Sleaford Dec 69 J2032 This is on the Nottingham to Sleaford and Skegness line. Barkston Class 31 down ecs Dec 69 J2033 10.55 MX ecs Holloway CS to York Clifton sidings Barkston Class 47 Kings X to Newcastle March 70 J2082 15.00 ex Kings X Barkston Class 55 to Kings X March 70 J2083 12.00 Edinburgh to kings X Barkston Class 31 down freight March 70 J2084 11.55 SO Temple Mills to Tees Thanks again to Mark 54 for the train working details David Edited January 16, 2017 by DaveF 38 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2017 Hi, Dave. A great set of photos of Barkston today. In the last one, I see there is one of those 31's in green with all yellow ends, and a BR double arrow. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted January 16, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 16, 2017 Is that what one might loosely call the goods yard gate in J2033? If so another prototype for my ideas file. Thanks. Really evocative photos, as ever. Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fitness Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 That's a rather fine pole run at Barkston too! JF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) J2083, judging by the state of it, it'll be a Gateshead one Edited January 16, 2017 by leopardml2341 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy1692 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 J2083, judging by the state of it, it'll be a Gateshead one Lovely, just enough weathering as to not be filthy, how engines should look Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 16, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) Is that what one might loosely call the goods yard gate in J2033? If so another prototype for my ideas file. Thanks. Really evocative photos, as ever. Jonathan Here's part of the goods yard taken from just inside the gate. When it still had track and traffic. Barkston V2 down c 1960 JM87 It's also in my black and white thread. David Edited January 16, 2017 by DaveF 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2017 Updating my own post! D1575 Pride of Tinsley at Kings Cross. Perhaps Mark can elucidate as to what train it had worked in on? 1A12. 1-MSP - 145 - 1575 Kings Cross.jpg Mike. I've finally found the magic book! Depends on the date. For the May 1969 and May 1970 timetables it was the 08:10 Newcastle-KX. In the May 1971 TT it was the 09:03 Cleethorpes-KX. In May 1972 1A12 wasn't allocated. As the 08:10 was an air-braked train I would go for the 09:03 from Cleethorpes. The photo is dated 1:6:1971. That ties up the loose ends of my memory, confirms the Lincolnshire connection in the cyclical diagram, thanks Mark. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark54 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 5L30 was the 10:50MX ecs Holloway CS to York Clifton sidings 1N18 was the 15:00 KX-Newcastle 1E11 was the 12:00 Edinburgh-KX 6N27 was the 11:55SO Temple Mills to Tees Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2017 J2083, judging by the state of it, it'll be a Gateshead one Was thinking no 14..... Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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