RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 30, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 30, 2017 Four from Manchetser Piccadilly and one from Heaton Norris Junction for today. Manchester Piccadilly 90005 and DVT about to leave for Euston 3rd March 90 C14082 Manchester Piccadilly 156406 3rd March 90 C14085 Manchester Piccadilly, exterior, east wall and roof 3rd March 90 C14087 Manchester Piccadilly 150207 North West livery for Sheffield, 150236 for Hull 3rd March 90 C14088 Heaton Norris Junction Class 47 up freight March 72 C0864 David 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2017 Hi, Dave.Excellent photos today. In C14088, 150236, on a service to Hull is something I remember all too well. The seats became most uncomfortable after the first few miles, and how I longed for Hull Paragon station! I believe some 150's have now had better seats fitted, but the originals were truly awful! With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2017 The front ends of both the sprinters look very stark without the obstacle deflector below the coupler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Hi, Dave.Excellent photos today. In C14088, 150236, on a service to Hull is something I remember all too well. The seats became most uncomfortable after the first few miles, and how I longed for Hull Paragon station! I believe some 150's have now had better seats fitted, but the originals were truly awful! With warmest regards, Rob. Good job you didn't travel on the Hull - Holyhead when a 142 was booked for it........................ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 C14085, oddly enough my booked unit this morning was this very one, but for some reason swapped for 156497. Although now mostly used on our local routes the 156s do get outings to Liverpool on a fairly regular basis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2017 They also get to Norwich, when I worked for central I hated them on Norwich Liverpool's as the cabs were draughty and rock hard driver's seat. I still drive the Anglia ones to and from works and they have improved a little Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 They also get to Norwich, when I worked for central I hated them on Norwich Liverpool's as the cabs were draughty and rock hard driver's seat. I still drive the Anglia ones to and from works and they have improved a little My preferred unit for any kind of work, plenty of space unlike the 158s and no damned air-con, what the heck is wrong with fresh air? That said the saloon heaters can leave a lot to be desired this time of year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2017 From a passenger point of view they aren't too bad. Are you a driver at Nottingham? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 From a passenger point of view they aren't too bad. Are you a driver at Nottingham? Nope, t'other end of unit. I presume the Maestro van I see at Norwich must be yours? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2017 That's me! I left central in 05 would I have worked with you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Maybe, I was a trolley dolly from July 2003 until November 2004 when I got an ATE job, been a guard since 2007 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 31, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) The Midland main line today at Ratcliffe on Soar between Nottingham and Loughborough. Ratcliffe on Soar A3 4472 Flying Scotsman Mystery Tour No3 St Pancras to Kings X March 69 J1562 Ratcliffe on Soar Class 45 up ex pass and Class 47 down ex pass March 69 J1565 Ratcliffe on Soar Class 45 up Jan 70 J2041 Ratcliffe on Soar Class 45 down Jan 70 J2043 Ratcliffe on Soar Class 25 D7511 up July 71 July 71 J2719 David Edited January 31, 2017 by DaveF 41 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 It's about time we had another look at Steamtown, Carnforth in the 1970s. For some reason the weather was usually dull when I went there. From time to time I tried taking photos of locos in the shed, with somewhat mixed results. a Steamtown Hunslet 2' gauge Russell Feb 73 C1175.jpg Steamtown Hunslet 1' 11.5" gauge Russell Feb 73 C1175 Carnforth Peckett Faraday 5th June 76 C2749.jpg Carnforth Peckett Faraday 5th June 76 C2749 Carnforth 6990 Raveningham Hall 5th June 76 C2757.jpg Carnforth 6990 Raveningham Hall 5th June 76 C2757 Carnforth LNWR 790 Harwicke 6th June 76 C2769.jpg Carnforth LNWR 790 Harwicke 6th June 76 C2769 a Steamtown SR Lord Nelson 30850 25th March 78 C3750.jpg Steamtown SR Lord Nelson 30850 25th March 78 C3750 David Hi Dave, one correction and also an update, C2749 Faraday was a Robert Stephenson & Hawthorn 14" 0-4-0ST. I say was as it was subsequently scrapped by its owner even though ostensibly preserved at the time so this is quite a historic photograph of it at Carnforth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 J1565 is a lovely shot. Nice when it works like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 The Midland main line today at Ratcliffe on Soar between Nottingham and Loughborough. Ratcliffe on Soar Class 25 D7511 up July 71 July 71 J2719.jpg Ratcliffe on Soar Class 25 D7511 up July 71 July 71 J2719 David Love the shot J2719 David. Such a difference in the grey shade on the last wagon compared with the others in view. Also the difference in the thickness of the top strengthener on the sides. Some are quite thick, whilst others look to be just an angle. They look to be the some capacity wagons. Different makers and differences in build? Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Love the shot J2719 David. Such a difference in the grey shade on the last wagon compared with the others in view. Also the difference in the thickness of the top strengthener on the sides. Some are quite thick, whilst others look to be just an angle. They look to be the some capacity wagons. Different makers and differences in build? Paul J. The first one's a 24.5t type (MEO). the other wagons are a mix of welded-body and rivetted 21 tonners; it's the latter which have the less-substantial top edge to the body. I wouldn't be surprised to find ex-Big 4 loco-coal wagons and ex-PO 'Pole' (GWR design) wagons amongst them- they were relatively common in block trains of industrial coal at the time. I would imagine this is a train of coking-coal empties from Corby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted January 31, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2017 Love the shot J2719 David. Such a difference in the grey shade on the last wagon compared with the others in view. Also the difference in the thickness of the top strengthener on the sides. Some are quite thick, whilst others look to be just an angle. They look to be the some capacity wagons. Different makers and differences in build? Paul J. The first one's a 24.5t type (MEO). the other wagons are a mix of welded-body and rivetted 21 tonners; it's the latter which have the less-substantial top edge to the body. I wouldn't be surprised to find ex-Big 4 loco-coal wagons and ex-PO 'Pole' (GWR design) wagons amongst them- they were relatively common in block trains of industrial coal at the time. I would imagine this is a train of coking-coal empties from Corby. As you cannot see the loco that could easily have had an ex LMS steam loco on the front (apart from the date). It's so much a steam era scene but with "modern" traction up front, but now 45+ years old. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2017 Hi, Dave. Excellent photos of Ratcliffe on Soar. In J2043 the 45's boiler appears to be letting off steam - very nicely captured. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 The first one's a 24.5t type (MEO). the other wagons are a mix of welded-body and rivetted 21 tonners; it's the latter which have the less-substantial top edge to the body. I wouldn't be surprised to find ex-Big 4 loco-coal wagons and ex-PO 'Pole' (GWR design) wagons amongst them- they were relatively common in block trains of industrial coal at the time. I would imagine this is a train of coking-coal empties from Corby. Would be an interesting routing if they were empty from Corby, they're on the up goods so heading back there! It is an interesting make up though, looks like quite a varied consist. 21/ 24t mins were pretty rare at Corby as the tippler couldn't really cope with them, they were usually shunted out of any trains they arrived in and could be found together on one road in the "Wood Sidings", presumably to be emptied as one batch. I can't ever recall seeing a block train of them there. Most coking coal arrived in the 16t, non-pool S&L/ BSC tipplers, BR wagons were a last resort when volumes dictated, S&L were notoriously mean and no point in paying for someone elses wagons when you can use your own I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark54 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) I think there are some directional problems. J1565 contradicts J2043. I don't know the area but I would have said the concrete sleepered track was the fast lines in which case J2043 is right and is up on the slow line. Then all the others are wrong. But I stand to be corrected! Edited January 31, 2017 by mark54 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted January 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2017 Nope, t'other end of unit. I presume the Maestro van I see at Norwich must be yours? You must see me at Eccles Road from time to time - I always acknowledge the drivers and (most of the time the) guards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leander Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 J2043 is on the down fast, i.e. heading towards Trent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark54 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 J2043 is on the down fast, i.e. heading towards Trent. Yes, that makes more sense in terms of the types of train seen. The Mk2c coaches in J2041 are almost certainly brand new and on a test train from Derby. They did not run on the MML at this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2017 You must see me at Eccles Road from time to time - I always acknowledge the drivers and (most of the time the) guards You are one of the few photographers who actually wave when we wave at you. I was in the secondmans seat this morning and driving on the way back this afternoon. Most of our drivers at stowmarket are approachable and when we are on the 68 short set will always talk to enthusiasts if we have the time. It can be quite lonely up the front! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Would be an interesting routing if they were empty from Corby, they're on the up goods so heading back there! It is an interesting make up though, looks like quite a varied consist. 21/ 24t mins were pretty rare at Corby as the tippler couldn't really cope with them, they were usually shunted out of any trains they arrived in and could be found together on one road in the "Wood Sidings", presumably to be emptied as one batch. I can't ever recall seeing a block train of them there. Most coking coal arrived in the 16t, non-pool S&L/ BSC tipplers, BR wagons were a last resort when volumes dictated, S&L were notoriously mean and no point in paying for someone elses wagons when you can use your own I guess. I hadn't realised Corby couldn't deal with these wagons. The only other place that I could think they might be going, or have come from, is Willington power station, but that's on the Derby- Burton line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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