35A Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 1E17 was the 10:35 Aberdeen-KX - The Aberdonian. It would normally have Deltic haulage. The formation suggests the SX train. Agreed. However, unlike 1E01, 1E05 and 1E11 (which were *very* exceptional if they didn't produce a Deltic), it wasn't altogether uncommon for 1E07 or 1E17 to turn up Brush-worked on any day of the week. 1E11, incidentally, was often used to 'run in' an ex-works Deltic between Doncaster and Peterborough. From time to time it would arrive with a pair on the front, the piloting loco being detached at Peterborough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 12, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2017 Appleby, Culgaith and Kirkby Stephen on the Settle and Carlisle today. Some of the photos are quite recent by the standards of this thread. Kirkby Stephen 142093 and 156471 Leeds to Carlisle 10th April 97 C21773 Kirkby Stephen BR Class 4MT 80080 Carlisle to Kirkby Stephen 22nd Feb 93 C18290 Kirkby Stephen 156483 Leeds to Carlisle 15th April 99 C24306 Appleby Class 25 up freight Aug 73 C1373 Culgaith 10th Aug 87 C9054 Culgaith 10th Aug 87 C9055 David 36 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted June 12, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) Culgaith Station building looks a lot nicer these days, the owners have made a nice house out of it. The dairy building opposite is now a garden centre with reasonable cafe. There is some railway memorabilia inside. I used that crossing a lot when I lived in Melmerby! (it's the next village) Keith Edited June 12, 2017 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 12, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the Settle and Carlisle photo's. Always a good subject. That first photo' has reminded me that when faced with such a combination of units, it was always a case of travelling in the 156, never the 142. C1373 is a great reminder of the classic diesel hauled freight trains - the 25 looks good on that train of BR 16 ton mineral wagons. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Glory Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) Appleby, Culgaith and Kirkby Stephen on the Settle and Carlisle today. Some of the photos are quite recent by the standards of this thread. Appleby Class 25 up freight Aug 73 C1373.jpgAppleby Class 25 up freight Aug 73 C1373 David C1373 - 7529 ? Edited June 13, 2017 by Western Glory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 13, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) The Tilbury line at Dunton, just east of Laindon for today. It's almost all about tracklaying..... Dunton 37262 tracklaying April 78 C3798 Dunton Class 31 pw train April 78 C3799 It is 31005. Many thanks to Swindon123 (Paul J) for working out the loco number. Dunton Class 37 April 78 C3800 Dunton 37262 April 78 C3802 Dunton 302306 down June 78 C3913 David Edited June 13, 2017 by DaveF 47 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) The Tilbury line at Dunton, just east of Laindon for today. It's almost all about tracklaying..... Dunton 37262 tracklaying April 78 C3798.jpg Dunton 37262 tracklaying April 78 C3798 Dunton Class 31 pw train April 78 C3799.jpg Dunton Class 31 pw train April 78 C3799 Dunton Class 37 April 78 C3800.jpg Dunton Class 37 April 78 C3800 Dunton 37262 April 78 C3802.jpg Dunton 37262 April 78 C3802 Dunton 302306 down June 78 C3913.jpg Dunton 302306 down June 78 C3913 David Once again nice photo montage David, especially of the track renewal being done, the old fashioned with track sections lifted out and the new going in its place. Thank you for sharing them with us. I once had a job moving a supposedly self propelled crane, (that had broken down), renewing track sections in Hereford station, with a class 08. Very boring shuttling up and down the same bit of track umpteen times, and at dead slow speed. \The only consolation was that as I was working in Hereford station the depot messroom and kettle was within easy reach for cups of tea.. As an aside I would like to proffer an identity for the "Toffee Apple" 31/0 in photo C3799; Dunton Class 31 pw train April 78 as being 31005. As far as I know only two 31/0's were painted up like that, 31005 & 31019, for the RPPR Toffee Apple Farewell tour in October 1977. The position of the OHL flash on the bodyside by the engine room door suggests that it is 31005, as the one on 31019 was lower down on the bodyside. Paul J. Edited to correct a reference to Class 30/0 instead of 31/0. Edited June 13, 2017 by Swindon 123 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2017 Hi, Dave. An excellent set of photos of Dunton and track relaying. That 31 in C3799 makes a splendid sight and it appears we now have its indentity too as 31005. In the last photo, there are several door droplights with white markings on them - labels? With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 13, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2017 Once again nice photo montage David, especially of the track renewal being done, the old fashioned with track sections lifted out and the new going in its place. Thank you for sharing them with us. I once had a job moving a supposedly self propelled crane, (that had broken down), renewing track sections in Hereford station, with a class 08. Very boring shuttling up and down the same bit of track umpteen times, and at dead slow speed. \The only consolation was that as I was working in Hereford station the depot messroom and kettle was within easy reach for cups of tea.. As an aside I would like to proffer an identity for the "Toffee Apple" 31/0 in photo C3799; Dunton Class 31 pw train April 78 as being 31005. As far as I know only two 31/0's were painted up like that, 31005 & 31019, for the RPPR Toffee Apple Farewell tour in October 1977. The position of the OHL flash on the bodyside by the engine room door suggests that it is 31005, as the one on 31019 was lower down on the bodyside. Paul J. Edited to correct a reference to Class 30/0 instead of 31/0. Paul, Thanks very much for the comment. 31005 would make sense, I know I saw it at other times on the Tilbury line during engineering work and on the GER. I've added it to the caption. I think I still have a few more photos of engineering work in the area to post in due course. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted June 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2017 The Tilbury line at Dunton, just east of Laindon for today. It's almost all about tracklaying..... Dunton 37262 tracklaying April 78 C3798.jpg Dunton 37262 tracklaying April 78 C3798 Dunton Class 31 pw train April 78 C3799.jpg Dunton Class 31 pw train April 78 C3799 It is 31005. Many thanks to Swindon123 (Paul J) for working out the loco number. Dunton Class 37 April 78 C3800.jpg Dunton Class 37 April 78 C3800 Dunton 37262 April 78 C3802.jpg Dunton 37262 April 78 C3802 Dunton 302306 down June 78 C3913.jpg Dunton 302306 down June 78 C3913 David The first few shots that show the Twin Jib Crane (TJC or tracklayer) with 60 foot panels. The last photo shows the TJC picking up 60 foot rails with only the two sleepers at the ends, therefore leaving the rest of the sleepers in the ground, so the last bit looks like rail replacement rather than track renewal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 13, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) The first few shots that show the Twin Jib Crane (TJC or tracklayer) with 60 foot panels. The last photo shows the TJC picking up 60 foot rails with only the two sleepers at the ends, therefore leaving the rest of the sleepers in the ground, so the last bit looks like rail replacement rather than track renewal. Thanks for the information. I've always wondered why they just removed the rails which I think were an expansion joint (according to my notes) in my last photo, as they were all taken on the same day. I think you can just about make out the joint in the photo. David Edited June 13, 2017 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted June 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2017 Once again nice photo montage David, especially of the track renewal being done, the old fashioned with track sections lifted out and the new going in its place. Thank you for sharing them with us. I once had a job moving a supposedly self propelled crane, (that had broken down), renewing track sections in Hereford station, with a class 08. Very boring shuttling up and down the same bit of track umpteen times, and at dead slow speed. \The only consolation was that as I was working in Hereford station the depot messroom and kettle was within easy reach for cups of tea.. As an aside I would like to proffer an identity for the "Toffee Apple" 31/0 in photo C3799; Dunton Class 31 pw train April 78 as being 31005. As far as I know only two 31/0's were painted up like that, 31005 & 31019, for the RPPR Toffee Apple Farewell tour in October 1977. The position of the OHL flash on the bodyside by the engine room door suggests that it is 31005, as the one on 31019 was lower down on the bodyside. Paul J. Edited to correct a reference to Class 30/0 instead of 31/0. Some of the older TJCs didn't have travel gear fitted because the technology didn't really exist to get the drive onto bogies with sufficient power to move (and stop) a heavy load. It looks to me as though this was an early attempt to get a TJC self-propelled because the hand wheels on the bogies are likely to be used to engage gears (they have to be disengaged when being towed in train). The hand wheels on the carriage are more likely to be handbrake wheels to try to stop the thing running away if parked on a gradient. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 31019 leads 31005 on the tour - and I was there. Not the best photo, but it does show that the electrification flashes are indeed lower on 31019. Geoff Endacott 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 The first few shots that show the Twin Jib Crane (TJC or tracklayer) with 60 foot panels. The last photo shows the TJC picking up 60 foot rails with only the two sleepers at the ends, therefore leaving the rest of the sleepers in the ground, so the last bit looks like rail replacement rather than track renewal. The first few shots that show the Twin Jib Crane (TJC or tracklayer) with 60 foot panels. The last photo shows the TJC picking up 60 foot rails with only the two sleepers at the ends, therefore leaving the rest of the sleepers in the ground, so the last bit looks like rail replacement rather than track renewal. Thanks for the information. I've always wondered why they just removed the rails which I think were an expansion joint (according to my notes) in my last photo, as they were all taken on the same day. I think you can just about make out the joint in the photo. David If you look carefully at that photo you can see the two sleepers with the expansion joint fittings also being lifted a a complete section, minus most of the sleepers. The nearer end of the rain has been cut with a gas torch, unable to see the condition of the other end. They might be lifting it to use again, at the same spot, or somewhere else. I have seen it done in the past. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRUNFOS Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Even as late as 1978 there's not much highvis about, only a 'waterproof' donkey jacket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 14, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) On the Great Eastern Main Line in Essex today with photos taken at Boreham and Church Lane Crossing, near Ingatestone. Boreham Class 37 up oil July74 C1662 Boreham Class 47 up freightliner July74 C1663 Boreham Class 309 up and Class 37 down Sat 4th March 1978 C3689 Church Lane Crossing 312782 ecs July 79 C4602 Church Lane crossing Class 309 Clacton to Liverpool St 5th May 80 C5053 David Edited June 14, 2017 by DaveF 34 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted June 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 14, 2017 Nice shots yesterday and today. I assume the orange 20ft container in C1663 is full of stuff that didn't really fit in anywhere else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 14, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the GEML photos. In particular C4602, of class 312, 312782 at Church Lane Crossing. The it's a splendid head on photo. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47164 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Amazing how the scene around Boreham has changed so much, and how it used to have the 100mph sign visible from the a12 on the north bound track....and is potentially the site of a new station.....but my town planning wife says maybe not in my lifetime the way things are going at present!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 14, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 14, 2017 Hi David As a resident of Chelmsford I would say your photos around Generals Lane bridge were more New Hall than Boreham. The loop line in C1663 was known as New Hall sidings even in GER days. Amazing how the scene around Boreham has changed so much, and how it used to have the 100mph sign visible from the a12 on the north bound track....and is potentially the site of a new station.....but my town planning wife says maybe not in my lifetime the way things are going at present!! As for the new station, I was first told about it in 1979 when I started working at Marconi's. In those days it was going to be called Springfield but since the building of hosing on the site of the former royal home of Beaulieu Park it will now be called "Beaulieu Park". The class 360 EMUs have this as one of their destination, don't 'alf cause a problem when the rivers display it. I echo 47164 in saying it won't be built in my life time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 love the 309s, you even managed to get the griddle cars (at a distance). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 15, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) Photos of Carlisle on various dates in 1988 for today. Carlisle 47589 Glasgow to Carlisle via GSWR 11th April 88 C9399 Carlisle 86103 Ayr to Euston via Glasgow 12th April 88 C9413 Carlisle 85020 down empty steel 12th April 88 C9420 Carlisle 90003 down test train 12th April 88 C9430 86426 in distance on left - many thanks to brushman47544. Carlisle 156430 Stranraer to Newcastle 27th Oct 88 C11586 David Edited June 15, 2017 by DaveF 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted June 15, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) C9430: The 86/4 in the left background looks like it has a special livery white cab window surrounds on its BR blue livery. 86426 IIRC Edited June 15, 2017 by brushman47544 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted June 15, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 15, 2017 Nice to see the 2 car Clacton units yesterday, not seen them before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 15, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the photos of Carlisle. The first photo is a great one of 47589, looking suitably weathered. And in C9420, 85020 has got the metal BR arrows - I can't remember if it kept them until the end of its career. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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