RMweb Gold DaveF Posted July 5, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) Since you've invited us to check... J1772 - I'm not convinced it's D1514 because it was a Generator and I can't see an ETH box or cable on the buffer beam. Could it be D1914? J3655 - the last digit looks more like a 6 than a 1, though the rest of the number is too blurred. I'm not sure about that, as D1914 was a Canton loco and, whilst WR locos did occasionally appear on the East Coast, it didn't happen very often. Looking at the picture I think that it's very difficult to even be certain that it ends in 14. It might just be a faded area of the number that makes it appear so. Also, under the D prefix is a black oval, very common on Eastern Region locos where cast shedplates were no longer available. There were odd 40B ones but most commonly they were Tinsley (41A) painted shedplates. I'm wondering if it might be D1994 - although the D1989-D1999 batch were Gateshead based (and ECML regulars) for a considerable length of time, D1994 was the odd one out, remaining at Tinsley. To be honest, I think that this one is very difficult to call, as it isn't possible to enlarge it far without losing the resolution. I think that it will probably remain guesswork! I have to admit I can't read the number off the scan either - and I couldn't off the slide either. As it is one of Dad's photos I can only assume he made a note of it at the time. It is very easy to get it wrong as to both take a photo and get the number is very hard - as I know very well. David Edited July 5, 2017 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 64B Posted July 5, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2017 I'm not sure about that, as D1914 was a Canton loco and, whilst WR locos did occasionally appear on the East Coast, it didn't happen very often. Looking at the picture I think that it's very difficult to even be certain that it ends in 14. It might just be a faded area of the number that makes it appear so. Also, under the D prefix is a black oval, very common on Eastern Region locos where cast shedplates were no longer available. There were odd 40B ones but most commonly they were Tinsley (41A) painted shedplates. I'm wondering if it might be D1994 - although the D1989-D1999 batch were Gateshead based (and ECML regulars) for a considerable length of time, D1994 was the odd one out, remaining at Tinsley. To be honest, I think that this one is very difficult to call, as it isn't possible to enlarge it far without losing the resolution. I think that it will probably remain guesswork! Could also be D1974 which was a Haymarket loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Nothing wrong with more pictures of Swayfield David! The view north was enhanced by the left-hand curve of the line. Looking south one could see trains for miles climbing up to Stoke. Not been back since they electrified the ECML, so don't know what it's like today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 5, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2017 Nothing wrong with more pictures of Swayfield David! The view north was enhanced by the left-hand curve of the line. Looking south one could see trains for miles climbing up to Stoke. Not been back since they electrified the ECML, so don't know what it's like today. The last time I went to Swayfield was on 12th June 2005 while I was visiting relatives. The photos below show the views available then - and the trains which have changed a bit. I took them with my first digital camera, a Canon A70 which had a lot of pixels at the time - 3 megapixels. I expect it is more overgrown now. Swayfield up GNER HST12th June 2005 IMG_5740 Swayfield Central Trains Class 170 down 12th June 2005 IMG_5746 Swayfield Hull Trains Class 222 up Hull to Kings X 12th June 2005 IMG_5750 Swayfield GNER Eurostar down 12th June 2005 IMG_5755 David 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Thanks David. Not as bad as I imagined........... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 6, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2017 Carlisle in the mid 1980s again today. Carlisle Class 108 53597 and 54236 Carlisle to Dumfries 23rd Oct 84 C6615 Carlisle Class 81 81002 Euston to Glasgow 23rd Oct 84 C6630 Carlisle Class 26 26023 23rd Oct 84 C6659 Carlisle goods lines remains of bridge over River Caldew 6th Aug 85 C7055 Carlisle Class 107 set 438 down to Dumfries 6th Aug 85 C7057 David 39 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the Carlisle photos. In C7055 I'm wondering if the tracks leading up to that bridge were in use as sidings. And in C6659, you took a really good side view of 26 023. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 I'm not sure about that, as D1914 was a Canton loco and, whilst WR locos did occasionally appear on the East Coast, it didn't happen very often. Looking at the picture I think that it's very difficult to even be certain that it ends in 14. It might just be a faded area of the number that makes it appear so. Also, under the D prefix is a black oval, very common on Eastern Region locos where cast shedplates were no longer available. There were odd 40B ones but most commonly they were Tinsley (41A) painted shedplates. I'm wondering if it might be D1994 - although the D1989-D1999 batch were Gateshead based (and ECML regulars) for a considerable length of time, D1994 was the odd one out, remaining at Tinsley. To be honest, I think that this one is very difficult to call, as it isn't possible to enlarge it far without losing the resolution. I think that it will probably remain guesswork! It could be one of the later batch as it appears to have a Clayton boiler, note the exhaust port. Cannot be a Generator as its TTG and air braked....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted July 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 6, 2017 I'm not sure about that, as D1914 was a Canton loco and, whilst WR locos did occasionally appear on the East Coast, it didn't happen very often. Looking at the picture I think that it's very difficult to even be certain that it ends in 14. It might just be a faded area of the number that makes it appear so. Also, under the D prefix is a black oval, very common on Eastern Region locos where cast shedplates were no longer available. There were odd 40B ones but most commonly they were Tinsley (41A) painted shedplates. I'm wondering if it might be D1994 - although the D1989-D1999 batch were Gateshead based (and ECML regulars) for a considerable length of time, D1994 was the odd one out, remaining at Tinsley. To be honest, I think that this one is very difficult to call, as it isn't possible to enlarge it far without losing the resolution. I think that it will probably remain guesswork! It has a Clayton boiler port, so one from these ranges D1639-D1681 (46) WR allocated, includes the named locos (1660-1677), 1636-1665 built with 3-part radiators, 1666-1681 Serck radiators D1901-D1947 (47) D1901-1938 WR allocated, D1939-1947 LMR South D1977-D1999 (23) ER allocated, all Serck fitted from new D1100 So looking like one from D1977-1999, and D1994 does look a good shout. http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v3.php?img=1496020009000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the Carlisle photos. In C7055 I'm wondering if the tracks leading up to that bridge were in use as sidings. And in C6659, you took a really good side view of 26 023. With warmest regards, Rob. Looking at Quail, they seem to have been disconnected at 'Bog Junction' at the southern end- there's no indication of any connections existing at the northern end. The line was closed after a Freightliner train divided, and was diverted on to the Avoiding Line, IIRC, finally coming to a halt when it demolished the bridge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted July 7, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2017 Those modern pictures of Swayfield are nice, and show how little impact headspan OHL has on the view, although I would make the most of it, as I can see a rolling program of putting hideous girders on top of the stanctions (so they look like the GW ones) to improve reliability, which will destroy the views from bridges.. Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Border Reiver Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 C6615 taken at the bottom of 'the ramp' my favourite spotting location in the 50s and 60s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 7, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2017 Today we travel a short way along the Newcastle to Sunderland line. Felling old Brandling Junction Railway station 1st Aug 85 C7017 Pelaw Junction 47218 up oil 1st Aug 85 C7033 Pelaw Junction 47305 up onto Leamside line 1st Aug 85 C7035 Boldon Colliery, now Brockley Whins Class 101 down 23rd June 84 C6540 East Boldon Class 101 Sunderland to Newcastle 23rd June 84 C6537 David 36 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted July 7, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the Carlisle photos. In C7055 I'm wondering if the tracks leading up to that bridge were in use as sidings. And in C6659, you took a really good side view of 26 023. With warmest regards, Rob. Unlikely, that's the remains of the goods avoiding line before the short sighted decision to abandon them. The goods yards north of this point had already closed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the Newcastle to Sunderland photos. They convey how things were back in BR days. In particular C7033 of 47 218 is a great portrait of that 47. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 C7035. Very model able train. 2 HEA, TTA, 2VEA and a VGA. And a BR blue duff on the front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 8, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) Settle and Carlisle today, with three photos of Green Arrow at Dent on a very wet day and a couple of diesels around Aisgill. Dent V2 4771 London to Carlisle The Norfolkman Sat 25 March 78 C3742 Dent V2 4771 London to Carlisle The Norfolkman Sat 25 March 78 C3743 Dent V2 4771 London to Carlisle The Norfolkman Sat 25 March 78 C3745 Aisgill Class 31 5820 up p w Aug 73 J3354 Aisgill Class 45 up Thames Clyde July 74 J3817 David Edited July 8, 2017 by DaveF 36 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 8, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 8, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the Settle and Carlisle photos. Green Arrow makes quite a sight in the rain at Dent, and I imagine would have made quite a sound too on departing. The photo, J3354, is a good classic view of the S&C with, in this case, 5820 working on a p w train. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted July 8, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 8, 2017 The photo below at Carnforth is just a test to try posting an early digital photo in terms of resizing them. No, the photo is not here as the RMWeb uploader has decided not to work this evening. Never mind, I'll try again another day. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 C7035. Very model able train. 2 HEA, TTA, 2VEA and a VGA. And a BR blue duff on the front. I suspect this is a Speedlink working from Tyneside Central Freight Depot reception sidings; there used to be a late-afternoon one from there, rather than from Tees Yard. It conveyed a mixture of stuff: loaded and empty wagons from TCFD itself, workings from Coxslodge (Rowntrees) and Black Callerton (ICI), Morpeth etc. Not sure where the two HEA in this train have come from, but the TTA will be from Heaton or Gateshead, the two VEAs from Morpeth (traffic for Otterburn Training Area), and the VGA from TCFD (Guinness empties). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 9, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2017 I thought that it was about time for another quick look at Embsay, home of the Yorkshire Dales railway back in the early 1970s (and one in the 80s) . Embsay Barclay Aug 72 C1059 Embsay ex Atrincham electric emu coach Aug 72 C1060 Embsay Hudswell Clarke Nellie Aug 72 J3028 Embsay Avonside Fred Aug 72 J3029 Embsay 6th Aug 84 C6596 David 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 I suspect this is a Speedlink working from Tyneside Central Freight Depot reception sidings; there used to be a late-afternoon one from there, rather than from Tees Yard. It conveyed a mixture of stuff: loaded and empty wagons from TCFD itself, workings from Coxslodge (Rowntrees) and Black Callerton (ICI), Morpeth etc. Not sure where the two HEA in this train have come from, but the TTA will be from Heaton or Gateshead, the two VEAs from Morpeth (traffic for Otterburn Training Area), and the VGA from TCFD (Guinness empties). I had another look at this and the of the two HEA at the front the first is branded with a Saltire which was used on the dedicated Anglo Scottish pool of wagons allocated for Speedlink Coal! The TTA is one of the blue resin tanks from Hexham! Mark Saunders 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 9, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2017 Another mixed bag today, two trains, some infrastructure. Barrow Hill and Staveley Class 31 down freight April 78 C3795 Bromsgrove view up Lickey incline April 74 C1525 Edmondthorpe and Wymondham east of Dec 69 C182 Edmondthorpe and Wymondham was on the Midland line from Saxby Junction to Bourne. Edmondthorpe and Wymondham goods shed Dec 69 C181 Sutton in Ashfield Junction Stanier 2-6-4T 42629 Nottingham to Mansfield April 64 J123 Wing sidings on Manton to Kettering line April 73 C1237 David 36 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 9, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 9, 2017 Hi, Dave. An excellent set of photos of the Yorkshire Dales Railway at Embsay. In C1060, the Altrincham TCL makes a good sight, and I can't remember what has happened to it since you took that photo. I wonder if anyone knows? I like the following set of photos. A good variety, and J123, at Sutton in Ashfield Junction is so nostalgic. The Stanier tank engine makes a splendid sight at the head of two Stanier carriages, and a Thompson CK. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted July 10, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 10, 2017 Hi, Dave. An excellent set of photos of the Yorkshire Dales Railway at Embsay. In C1060, the Altrincham TCL makes a good sight, and I can't remember what has happened to it since you took that photo. I wonder if anyone knows? I like the following set of photos. A good variety, and J123, at Sutton in Ashfield Junction is so nostalgic. The Stanier tank engine makes a splendid sight at the head of two Stanier carriages, and a Thompson CK. With warmest regards, Rob. Its still with us, although in a somewhat half dressed condition: http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=609 Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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