RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2019 Hi, Dave. Firstly about Windows 10. Microsoft announced last month that they were going to start imposing, by way of a forced upgrade, version 1903. There is no known way around it, so I’m relieved that your PC is usable once more. The photo’s of the line from Newcastle to South Shields are fascinating and nostalgic. In C7325, at Pelaw with Metro 4080, on a service from St James to Pelaw, on the 19th February, 1986, I just hope the heating was working in all that cold and snowy weather. I’m sure it was. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRail Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Great photo of Tyneside Central freight depot Class 08 shunting Aug 85 J8362.jpg which shows the remains of an old siding which has been taken out with the check rail and the long bearers left in place 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 14, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) Photos taken in Northumberland today, all within easy reach from home. They are in order from north to south. Alnmouth Class 101 Berwick to Newcastle 22nd Aug 87 C9122.jpg Buston Barns 43063 down Oct 85 J8435 Acklington Class 47 up mail June 85 J8301 47419?? Chevington Class 254 down Aug 85 J8338 Longhirst 37517 up coal ex Butterwell 28th Nov 87 C9285.jpg David Edited June 14, 2019 by DaveF 40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted June 14, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 14, 2019 Hi David A day late, but in C6678, are the NBC sidings the Hilda sidings of the Harton Electric Railway? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 14, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the Northumberland photo’s which are fabulous and show various aspects of the railway from the 1980’s. I particularly like C9285 at Longhirst, with a class 37, 37517 on an up coal train, from Butterwell, on the 28th November, 1987. It is a great side shot of the 37, and the engine is powering along nicely judging from the plume of exhaust. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 14, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said: Hi David A day late, but in C6678, are the NBC sidings the Hilda sidings of the Harton Electric Railway? Yes they are - but I've had to look it up just to check. For some reason my notes from the day were not very helpful. David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted June 14, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 14, 2019 J8301 love this pic for the postal vehicle, the angle of the pic shows how far inset the sliding doors were (not ususally so noticeable. Also for the state of the GUVs - filthy! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted June 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) J8301 47419? Definitely one of the 401-420 batch. Edited June 14, 2019 by Western Aviator 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47164 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 J8338.....is there a quiz there ........... spot the future classic .... metro v/s 254!! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 15, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2019 Newcastle Central from 1981 to 1988 this afternoon. Newcastle Class 101 Alnmouth to Newcastle Dec 81 J7620.jpg Newcastle 143023 28th July 86 C7678.jpg Newcastle HST down 24th Feb 87 C8210.jpg Newcastle 143020 Sunderland to Hexham 21st April 87 C8333.jpg Newcastle 31115 up l e 5th April 88 C9386.jpg David 33 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 On 14/06/2019 at 17:53, keefer said: J8301 love this pic for the postal vehicle, the angle of the pic shows how far inset the sliding doors were (not ususally so noticeable. Also for the state of the GUVs - filthy as usual! There - corrected it for you 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the Newcastle photo’s which bring back many happy memories. In the last one, C9386, on the 5th April, 1988, that’s a most atmospheric photo’ of 31115 on a light engine movement. The angle of the sun helps to bring out some detail too. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 16, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) This morning's photos are from the Keighley and Worth Valley. The first few are from 1969, then one from 1972 and the last ones from 1983. Even though they were taken a long time ago I can still remember a lot of details of each visit. In the earlier photos the Ivatt 2-6-2T was still in their own livery as was the USA tank. This was required by BR who at the time did not like preserved railways painting locos in BR colors. It was also good publicity for the line in its early years. The L&Y loco had been used for filming which accounts for its livery. The film was "The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes" The cars in some of the photos are quite nice too. Haworth USA 72 Sept 69 C121 Haworth L&Y 957 as fictitious LNWR for The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes Sept 69 C135.jpg Haworth Ivatt Class 2MTT 41241 Keighley to Oxenhope Aug 72 J3022.jpg Haworth Ivat Class 2MTT 41241 Aug 83 C6224.jpg Damems Aug 83 C6235 Damems WM railbus Aug 83 C6237.jpg David Edited June 16, 2019 by DaveF 40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted June 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 16, 2019 On 09/06/2019 at 16:45, DaveF said: Tracklaying at Bottesford for this afternoon. There will be more of these photos from time to time. Bottesford cranes laying tack Nov 83 J8091 Bottesford cranes laying tack Nov 83 J8098 Bottesford 31191 Nov 83 J8103 Bottesford Class 37 and 31191 Nov 83 J8112 Bottesford cranes laying track Nov 83 J8113 David The cranes are Taylor Hubbard 10.16t diesel mechanical that BR refurbished including fitting electronic safe load indicators to them. I can't quite make out the numbers, but would guess that they came from Doncaster Woodyard. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 16, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) We've now moved from Yorkshire to Cumbria to look at part of the line from Carnforth to Carlisle along the coast. The photos run from south to north. Arnside Class 108 Barrow to Lancaster 8th Aug 87 C8840.jpg Wraysholme Crossing Class 142 up ecs 9th Aug 87 C8897.jpg Cark and Cartmel 47226 down empty coal 8th Aug 87 C8849.jpg Cark and Cartmel Class 108 Barrow to Lancaster 8th Aug 87 C8847.jpg Silecroft Class 108 Carlisle to Lancaster 6th Aug 87 C8758.jpg David Edited June 16, 2019 by DaveF 37 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 16, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the K.& W.V. R. photo’s which are all very interesting. I wonder exactly why BR did not approve of preserved locomotives being painted in BR liveries. There must be such a good reason locked away in the history books somewhere. The last photo’, C6237, at Damems, with WM railbus, in August, 1983, is a real delight, and of course, so modellable. The Cumbrian Coast photo’s are a real delight, and such a variety of trains have run over the line. The photo’s capture the moods of the coast line so perfectly. In C8897, at Wraysholme Crossing, with an unidentifiable class 142, on an up ECS working, on the 9th August, 1987, would be a long and bumpy journey when the Pacer was placed into service. Thankfully those units are approaching their destination station very quickly now.... With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porkscratching Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 I do like a bit of "old car porn" that's interspersed with your fantastic pics ! The Metro a few posts back was yours I'd guess? (great little motor the Metro, I've been through 2 or 3 albeit many moons ago ) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 In that vein, yesterday's C135 (K&WVR 9/69) had a good Mk.I to Mk.II rear comparison shot! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted June 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, Market65 said: Hi, Dave. I like the K.& W.V. R. photo’s which are all very interesting. I wonder exactly why BR did not approve of preserved locomotives being painted in BR liveries. There must be such a good reason locked away in the history books somewhere. The last photo’, C6237, at Damems, with WM railbus, in August, 1983, is a real delight, and of course, so modellable. The Cumbrian Coast photo’s are a real delight, and such a variety of trains have run over the line. The photo’s capture the moods of the coast line so perfectly. In C8897, at Wraysholme Crossing, with an unidentifiable class 142, on an up ECS working, on the 9th August, 1987, would be a long and bumpy journey when the Pacer was placed into service. Thankfully those units are approaching their destination station very quickly now.... With warmest regards, Rob. It is possible that in the period immediately following the final withdrawal of standard gauge steam in 1968 BR were concerned that steam loco running around in BR liveries might be mistaken for locos that they owned and were responsible for. They were very concerned in those days to promote the corporate image and rid themselves of the perception that they were failing to modernise. A few years later, the blue/grey livery and arrows of indecision had become very firmly embedded in the public consciousness, and steam had become part of the nation's noble engineering heritage, so the unfortunate connotations of steam being old fashioned, slow, dirty, expensive, polluting and symptomatic of an inefficient railway had gone, and those concerned with promoting BR's image were more tolerant of steam locos in BR livery. I'm not saying that I'd agree with any of this, but you can see why they might have thought in this way. Many of the earlier preserved locos could appropriately carry pre-BR liveries anyway. The early SVR never had any trouble with 43106, though, David Shepherd was able to keep Black Prince and Green Knight in their BR liveries, and AFAIK it was only the KWV and Lakeside and Haverthwaite that painted locos in these 'non BR' liveries. Perhaps it was a Northern thing; steam had lasted longer up there. Locos were painted for film work as well, which does not happen so much these days as suitable locos for a greater variety of periods or imagined locations are available. Edited June 17, 2019 by The Johnster 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 17, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2019 A wet day at Carlisle in October 1987 for this afternoon. Perhaps I should have posted these last week, the weather was more appropriate then. Carlisle 86419 and 87016 down British steel Covhops 27th Oct 87 C9196.jpg Carlisle 87026 Glasgow to Plymouth 27th Oct 87 C9207.jpg Carlisle Class 108 54247 and 53964 ecs 27th Oct 87 C9214.jpg Carlisle 08912 down trip 27th Oct 87 C9224 Carlisle 31450 up freight to Newcastle line 27th Oct 87 C9220.jpg David 39 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 C9196 - no-one would believe you if you weathered a model like that... C9224 - I assume the flask wagon was empty for that movement... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 17, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the Carlisle photo’s which are full of interest and gloom from the wet weather conditions. Now, in C9214, with class 108, in green, numbers 54247 and 53964, on an ECS working on the 27th October, 1987, the cream on yellow speed whisker does look a bit odd. I believe this has been commented on before, along with the black whisker on the green Cravens unit too. I guess at least an attempt was made to replicate the original green livery, which was better than no attempt at all. I agree that the cab end of the 86 in the first photo’ looks quite unique with that splattered weathering.... With warmest regards, Rob. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 i always thought it was just a copyright reason, they dont belong to BR so they cant use the livery 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, sir douglas said: i always thought it was just a copyright reason, they dont belong to BR so they cant use the livery Or maybe so close to the end of steam they thought people may confuse the preserved railways with BR who wanted to project a modern efficient railway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 18, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2019 A look at Plawsworth in October 1987 today. Plawsworth is in County Durham on the ECML between Chester le Street and Durham. Plawsworth 43060 up 26th Oct 87 C9172 Plawsworth 37209 down rail 26th Oct 87 C9179 Plawsworth 56118 up Cawoods coal 26th Oct 87 C9181.jpg Plawsworth 47297 up ICI tanks 26th Oct 87 C9183.jpg Plawsworth 47367 down limestone 26th Oct 87 C9186.jpg David 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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