RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted September 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Market65 said: In C16713, at Glasgow Central low level, with 303073, on a service to Dalmuir, on the 29th February, 1992, you can see two lots of wires hanging down on the rear cab bulkhead. I wonder what it was in connection with - track circuit operating clips for use in an emergency? Yes, they look like track circuit operating clips to me. When I worked in Reading PSB we had some hanging on the wall. The only time they were ever used was for a particular shunt move to stable a train on the up goods line between the station and the box. As this was a wrong direction movement you could only clear the shunt signal onto this line if there was a train (or part of one) already occupying it, there being no exit signal or limit of shunt board (a train already sitting there was, in effect, the limit of shunt). So to get a train onto the unoccupied line we had to cheat. Someone would go down and put the track circuit operating clip on the up goods thus fooling the system and allowing the signal onto it to be cleared. Once the shunt move was occupying the relevant track circuit itself, you could take the clip off and go back indoors. Edited September 27, 2020 by Western Aviator 1 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted September 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2020 Southern EMUs were equipped with TC Operating Clips. The wire was just long enough to stretch between the rails - but not as far as the third rail, and the instructions clearly stated that the first clip must be placed on the further rail. All very well, but it became a bit difficult when the wire had broken - and some well-meaning prat had simply tied a knot in it..... 2 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 28, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) Today's photos are from Bottesford and Radcliffe on Trent on the Grantham to Nottingham line. Bottesford Class 47 Parkeston Quay to Manchester Feb 81 C5278.jpg Bottesford Class 114 Nottingham to Grantham May 82 J7648.jpg Bottesford Class 37 and 31191 Nov 83 J8105.jpg Radcliffe on Trent Class 114 Nottingham to Grantham Aug 78 C4099.jpg Radcliffe on Trent Class 114 Nottingham to Skegness Dec 79 J6748.jpg David Edited September 28, 2020 by DaveF 42 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2020 Good afternoon, David. I like the Bottesford and Radcliffe on Trent photo’s, on the Grantham to Nottingham line. They are all of interest, and the last photo’ of Radcliffe on Trent, with a class 114 unit, on a Nottingham to Skegness service in Dec, 1979, shows why white is not a good colour for a livery. It gets dirty much too quickly, and therefore requires much more cleaning. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 03060 Posted September 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 28, 2020 Some very classy photos there, Dave. Whilst I like DMU's anyway from this era you've captured them perfectly in the shots of the 114s. Thanks for sharing them with us. Regards, Ian. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 29, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2020 Some photos of 2 Class 31s on the Grassington branch on their way towards Skipton with a train from Swinden Quarry. Also a photo with a train hiding in the sidings at Skipton. Rylstone 2 Class 31s limestone from Cracoe April 90 J10787.jpg Rylstone 2 Class 31s up limestone 11th April 90 C14301.jpg Rylstone 2 Class 31s up limestone 11th April 90 C14303.jpg Rylstone 2 Class 31s up limestone 11th April 90 C14304.jpg Skipton view west Class 308 in distance 2nd Aug 96 C21202.jpg David 41 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 03060 Posted September 29, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) Excellent timing Dave, I was only just thinking about modelling this particular train earlier this afternoon as I was making plans for a 1980's Holbeck style N gauge cameo layout. I have some photo's that I took at the time of some of the wagons, although I seem to remember that there were at least 2 or 3 different types in the train. (Edit - as can be just made out in the first photo, j10787) Shame that I can't quite make out the loco numbers....possibly 31 156 and 31 229 ?? Regards, Ian. Edited September 29, 2020 by 03060 Extra comment added. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 29, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 29, 2020 Good afternoon, David. I like the photo’s from the Grassington branch with those two class 31’s on a train from Swinden quarry on the 11th April, 1990. All are of interest, and show various aspects of both the train the branch. In C14304, you have the two 31’s as neatly framed by two trees as it’s possible to get. The Skipton photo’ is most interesting, and to the right, in it, you can see part of the carriage washing plant. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Also, looking at C14303, it really emphasises how much Railfreight livery made the 31 appear longer. Comparing the blue loco to the Railfreight loco, there is a real optical illusion - the rear loco looks more like a class 25, in length, coupled behind the later liveried one. I'm not sure that I've ever seen a broadside view of the two different liveries together (I certainly haven't got any in my photographic collection), it came as quite a surprise. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 30, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) Today's photos feature some of the remains of the lines built by the North British railway in Northumberland. Some of you will know the locations, others may need to use a map or Goole earth to work out where the photos were taken - most of them are not really near villages, let alone towns. The first three are on the branch from Scotsgap to Rothbury. The last two are taken near the Scotish Border on the line past Reedsmouth to Riccarton. Longwitton April 81 C5350.jpg The station is actually at Rothley, near Rothley lake. B6342 bridge near Rothley cross roads DSC_1084.jpg Brinkburn station NBR Rothbury branch May 81 J7397.jpg Kielder viaduct NBR April 81 J7344.jpg Deadwater station 25th Oct 89 C13805.jpg David Edited September 30, 2020 by DaveF 45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted September 30, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 30, 2020 Looking at the two disused station sites, you have to wonder what possessed the company to build stations there in the first place. Not a dwelling to be seen, so where did they expect the passengers to come from? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Looking at the gorgous Northumberland countryside mskes you realise why its called gods country I must try and get back. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 30, 2020 Good evening, David. I like the Northumberland photo’s which feature the remains of closed railways. They are all of interest, and, as stated, the countryside is delightful. In J7344, of Kielder viaduct, NBR, in April, 1981, the viaduct certainly looks most impressive. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2020 Rural Northumberland really is a smashing place. I'm sure I used to see railway remnants when being driven about, probably on a Sunday afternoon drive from Alnwick to Rothbury, for Cragside, the world's first house illuminated by hydro-electricity, among other charms. 2 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 1, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) Did somebody mention Scotsgap Junction? Edited October 1, 2020 by St Enodoc 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted October 1, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 1, 2020 Remember that on a long single line you need passing places. Since trains have to stop there, it may make sense to build a station, especially if there is local agricultural traffic. There will also be local supplies to deliver. Remember that when these lines were built rural population was bigger than now and the roads were much poorer. Even if the line was built to stop another company from claiming the area (not uncommon), much of this still applied. But of course many rural lines never washed their faces financially. But beautiful photos. Some real modelling potential there, put perhaps best in N so you can include as much of the gorgeous countryside as possible. Once again, many thanks to David and his father for having the foresight to take all these photos. Jonathan 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted October 1, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) Photos taken at Hexham on the Newcastle to Carlisle line for this afternoon. Hexham west end of station 9th June 84 C6498.jpg Hexham 2 Class 108s 26th Nov 88 C11611.jpg Hexham 28th July 90 C14616.jpg Hexham 143615 Hexham to Newcastle 28th July 90 C14618.jpg Hexham 156463 Carlisle to Newcastle 30th Jan 93 C18270.jpg David Edited October 1, 2020 by DaveF 39 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 C14616 and C14618 - what's with the apparent right-hand running? Presumably services from Newcastle can terminate at Hexham, then turn back from the same platform? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold nigb55009 Posted October 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2020 George Bernard Shaw gave up writing, now works as a " man and van" in deepest Northumberland, (C18270). You learn something everyday. Great photos by the way, keep `em coming. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted October 1, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, eastwestdivide said: C14616 and C14618 - what's with the apparent right-hand running? Presumably services from Newcastle can terminate at Hexham, then turn back from the same platform? That's correct. It makes for a quicker turnround as no ecs move is needed, also passengers do not have to go over the footbridge. The station buildings, entrance and car park are all on the right hand (south) side of the station. David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted October 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2020 Good evening, David. I like the Hexham photo’s on the Newcastle to Carlisle line, of which all are of interest. In C14616, on the 28th July, 1990, you have captured a spendid view of that semaphore signal, which will be of good use for those making models of BR semaphores. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 hours ago, nigb55009 said: George Bernard Shaw gave up writing, now works as a " man and van" in deepest Northumberland, (C18270). You learn something everyday. Great photos by the way, keep `em coming. Good spot, but shouldn’t it be a bus on the bridge?! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexagon789 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 C18270 - looks as if the crew forgot to change the destination blind! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted October 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2020 On 30/09/2020 at 16:24, DaveF said: Today's photos feature some of the remains of the lines built by the North British railway in Northumberland. Some of you will know the locations, others may need to use a map or Goole earth to work out where the photos were taken - most of them are not really near villages, let alone towns. The first three are on the branch from Scotsgap to Rothbury. The last two are taken near the Scotish Border on the line past Reedsmouth to Riccarton. Longwitton April 81 C5350.jpg The station is actually at Rothley, near Rothley lake. B6342 bridge near Rothley cross roads DSC_1084.jpg Brinkburn station NBR Rothbury branch May 81 J7397.jpg Kielder viaduct NBR April 81 J7344.jpg Deadwater station 25th Oct 89 C13805.jpg David You are Ian Futers and I claim my £5! Mike. 1 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted October 1, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2020 2 hours ago, hexagon789 said: C18270 - looks as if the crew forgot to change the destination blind! It's to save time changing it when they get to Newcastle! David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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