RMweb Gold DaveF Posted October 21, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2021 35 minutes ago, iands said: Didn't notice in the original b&w photo but there seems to be an unusually large number of "onlookers", even for wrong line working (even if they knew what that was), was there something special due to pass? Sir Nigel Gresley was due on a northbound charter. Pilmoor often had quite a lot of people taking photos in good weather though. David 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted October 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2021 And in colour the "weathering" of the loco is quite impressive. Definitely one would be criticised if one weathered a model that much. Jonathan 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, corneliuslundie said: And in colour the "weathering" of the loco is quite impressive. Definitely one would be criticised if one weathered a model that much. Jonathan It was a Gateshead locomotive, at the time (moved to York the following month). Interestingly (well, I thought so), when looking that up, I noticed that it was delivered new to Gateshead before later transferring to York (North). It then returned to Gateshead and back to York a couple more times before withdrawal, those being its only homes. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 22, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2021 10 hours ago, iands said: was there something special due to pass? Yes, a couple of Hawksworth coaches... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 14 hours ago, Market65 said: That first one of a class 40, D278, on a down passenger train on the up fast line, on the 20th August,1967, has the following carriages at the front. First carriage is a Hawksworth BCK, then a Hawksworth SK, followed by a Stanier SK and a Stanier CK - possibly a Porthole example. Mk1’s follow on after those four. The third coach is the post-war type with extra corrdor side doors (the footsteps are more obvious than the doors themselves) and also appears to have maroon rather than black ends as late maroon repaints had. 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted October 22, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) Further south on the ECML today, from Stoke Bank to just south of Retford. Near Stoke Summit Class 254 HST up Feb 83 C5948 Great Ponton Class 47 down Nov 68 J1503 Grantham Class 254 Kings X to Newcastle and Class 114 to Nottngham in bay. June 80 J6969 Dry Doddington Class 254 up Feb 81 J7327 Eaton Lane Crossing Gamston Class 43 down 9th June 95 C20238 David Edited April 23, 2022 by DaveF 40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 There is just something about winter and late autumn photos! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted October 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2021 Good evening, David. That’s a delightful selection of photo’s of the ECML from Stoke Bank to just south of Retford. In J1503, at Great Ponton, with a class 47 on a down service in November, 1968, unless I am seeing things you can make out one or two of the reading lights in some of the compartments of the Mk1 carriages. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted October 23, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) Brighton around seventy years ago in black and white. All the photos are Dad's, I was a bit young to have a camera then. Brighton SR K2 32342 l e c1950 JVol3159 Brighton 10001 c1954 JVol7203 Brighton 10203 l e c1954 JVol7198 Brighton A1X Brighton Works 377S l e c1951 JVol7096 Brighton Brighton Class H1 4-4-2 32039 Hartland Point with sleeve valves 1950 JM82a_Brighton Brighton Leader class power bogie Oct 49 JVol6049 David Edited April 23, 2022 by DaveF 53 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted October 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2021 Wow Jonathan 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted October 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2021 Good afternoon, David. What a simply superb set of photo’s, as taken by your Dad, of Brighton. They show some remarkable scenes, and thank goodness he took those photo’s. The last photo’ of one of the Leader class power bogies, as in October, 1949, is showing details which I’ve never seen before. I doubt many others have seen one of those bogies before. Thank you for posting those excellent photo’s. With warmest regards, Rob. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted October 23, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) Nice picture of a pristine 10203 (JVol7198) but the picture must date from 1954 when this particular loco was outshopped from Brighton Works. Its condition is in stark contrast with that of 10001 which looks sorely in need of a clean, especially the windows! 10000/1 were on the Southern from April 1953 till April 1955 so the photo must date from that period, perhaps taken at the same time as that of 10203? It has been fitted already with the additional lamp brackets to allow for SR route discs. Brings back memories of a 2-week family holiday in 1954 when I was 9. We were staying west of Sailsbury close enough to the West of England main line where these diesels were very much in use (on trial presumably). Edited October 23, 2021 by RFS 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted October 23, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 hour ago, RFS said: Nice picture of a pristine 10203 (JVol7198) but the picture must date from 1954 when this particular loco was outshopped from Brighton Works. Its condition is in stark contrast with that of 10001 which looks sorely in need of a clean, especially the windows! 10000/1 were on the Southern from April 1953 till April 1955 so the photo must date from that period, perhaps taken at the same time as that of 10203? It has been fitted already with the additional lamp brackets to allow for SR route discs. Brings back memories of a 2-week family holiday in 1954 when I was 9. We were staying west of Sailsbury close enough to the West of England main line where these diesels were very much in use (on trial presumably). Many thanks for correcting the date Roger, it is most helpful. I've amended the captions. I had forgotten that 10203 was outshopped in 1954. Sadly Dad only dated a few of his black and white photos so it is always "interesting" when captioning them. At least he almost always recorded locations. The photo must have been taken either around Easter or August of that year as the only times we went to Brighton were on family holidays. David 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 24, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2021 14 hours ago, DaveF said: Brighton Brighton Class H1 4-4-2 32039 Hartland Point with sleeve valves 1950 JM82a_Brighton Lovers' Walk inspection shed in the background. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted October 24, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) Some photos from the Nene Valley Railway for this morning. Orton Mere 73050 May 81 J7371 Wansford 73050 and 70000 May 81 J7365 Wansford Hudswell Clarke 2 Thomas DB 64305 Avonside Pitsford DSB 656 SJ 2-6-4T May 81 J7363 Wansford BR Class 5 73050 ecs 27th April 75 C2010 Wansford SJ 1928 May 81 J7379 Wansford Swedish Class S 1178 Aug 77 C3525 David Edited April 23, 2022 by DaveF 35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted October 24, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) It's the 29th May 1996, we are in Yorkshire looking around the Milford Junction area. Obviously it is before Real Time trains started so we have to wait and see what turns up. Milford Junction 59203 up coal 29th May 96 C20930 Gascoigne Wood 155347 Hull to Leeds 29th May 96 C20937 Hagg Lane level crossing 158764 up pass 29th May 96 C20947 Milford Junction 58030 down emptiess 29th May 96 C20954 Milford Junction 56045 up freightliner 29th May 96 C20979 David Edited April 23, 2022 by DaveF 42 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted October 24, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2021 3 hours ago, DaveF said: Obviously it is before Real Time trains started so we have to wait and see what turns up. Milford Junction used to be fantastic, 58s bringing Scottish coal South and the 56s swapping onto the train and taking it onwards to the power stations, the 58 taking empties back North. Sadly I just missed the 59s working there. Watching the junctions swing over was a good way of knowing where the next train was coming from although you could still get caught out. At times it was incredibly busy with trains queuing on several lines to pass through. Sadly while it still sees traffic it's a shadow of it's former self and of course the bridge was replaced and now needs steps to see over the sides. 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted October 24, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2021 Good evening, David. That’s a most excellent selection of photo’s of the Nene Valley Railway. In J7379, at Wansford, with SJ, 1928, in May, 1981, that’s a delightful portrait shot of that engine. The Milford Junction photo’s are as interesting as ever, and in C20947, at Hagg Lane level crossing, with 158764 on a Leeds service, on the 29th May, 1996, I believe that is the up direction with trains to Hull going down the line. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted October 24, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Market65 said: Good evening, David. That’s a most excellent selection of photo’s of the Nene Valley Railway. In J7379, at Wansford, with SJ, 1928, in May, 1981, that’s a delightful portrait shot of that engine. The Milford Junction photo’s are as interesting as ever, and in C20947, at Hagg Lane level crossing, with 158764 on a Leeds service, on the 29th May, 1996, I believe that is the up direction with trains to Hull going down the line. With warmest regards, Rob. Thanks Rob. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 J7363 - One of the SEGs 4COR power cars on the right... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted October 25, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) Another ECML collection from south of Grantham to just south of Retford. All of the photos are of HSTs but look closely and spot the differences. Great Ponton Class 254 down 30th May 78 C3886 Grantham 254027 up Bradford to Kings X June 80 J6962 Peascliffe Tunnel Class 254 up July 83 J8000 Dry Doddington Class 254 down May 87 J8897 Gamston Class 254 HST up Oct 82 C5865 David Edited April 23, 2022 by DaveF 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted October 25, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2021 Good afternoon, David. That’s a great selection of photo’s of HST’s on the ECML. The differences are basically power car roof deflectors, buffet cars, TGs’s, and the number of TS’s. They started with no deflectors or TGS’s, and had two restaurant cars. Then, in the early ‘80’s, the TGS’s were introduced, and catering provision was reduced, mostly, to one buffet car. Apart from the NE - SW sets, first class remained at two TF’s. So, those changes can be seen in this afternoon’s photo’s. In J6962, at Grantham, with 254027 on an up Bradford to Kings Cross express, in June, 1980, just from looking at the photo’, you wouldn’t think it was June with all the cloud, damp and gloomy weather. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted October 25, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2021 6 hours ago, DaveF said: Gamston Class 254 HST up Oct 82 C5865 Is that a WR set, or just 1 vehicle short? It isn't an XC set as it has two firsts. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted October 25, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2021 32 minutes ago, Davexoc said: Is that a WR set, or just 1 vehicle short? It isn't an XC set as it has two firsts. C5865 at Gamston. All I know is that it was on its way to Kings Cross. Sory I can't be more helpful. David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 25, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Davexoc said: Is that a WR set, or just 1 vehicle short? It isn't an XC set as it has two firsts. Probably one short. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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