stamford Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Received my 9700 with top feed about 4weeks ago, generally well pleased with it although I have sourced a replacement smokebox door and some detailing parts, ie etched spectacle plates,cab grilles,lamp irons and sprung buffers (which I already had to hand) It will sit on a perseverance chassis and gibson wheels (em gauge) some time next year ! Only progress so far is the body has been drilled for the handrail knobs. Photos to follow as and when Merry Christmas to all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter jf Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Well, here goes with my January Project. First fit handrails etc. Next 2 undercoats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter jf Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 First mistake. Should have undercoated first before handrails. Would have made it easier to rubdown carefully. Any way now with 2 green coats and 1 black coat. Might give a number of stain varnish coats to try and produce smoother finish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 May I request a look at the underside? I'd just like to see something in relation to it all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twright Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 What make of handrail knobs have you used and with what size of wire? It looks very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bigcheeseplant Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 I thought the handrail knobs seemed too large, normally I use Alan Gibson knobs which I think are to scale. Just wondered why you have the handrails bare metal as they should be the same colour as the loco. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 11, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2015 You seem to have got the tank exhaust vent pipe wrong - as far as I can see it should come from the tanks and not from the condenser pipes. Steam should go back into the side tanks in order to condense and the tank exhaust/vent should allow heat to escape from the tanks. As you have arranged it the exhaust steam would never reach the tanks. Check for prototype pics and you should be able to see what I mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter jf Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 69843 - photo attached. Tom - Bought a job lot of Hornby spares wire and handrail knobs off ebay some years ago. 0.55mm diameter wire. Dave - Not sure if true scale. Painted handrails originally then thought they might look better shinny. Not so sure now! Mike - not sure, but I thick you are right. Cannot find close up of detail on internet. Came as a 3D purchase and I don't have skill to alter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamford Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 You are right Stationmaster, a close study of the picture on page 209 of J H Russell's Pictorial record of GWR Loco's just about shows the arrangement of the pipework ( tank top photos of these engines seem to be almost nonexistent it's the only one I've found so far in my "library" ). I noticed this error on my model soon after I received it (more modification required) As yet no progress on 9705 yet,will have to make a start soon. Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter jf Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Jan project completed couple of coats of satin varnish Bits added Pipes amended as per mikes comments Handrails repainted as per Davids comments All that remains is to thank L49 for making the 3d model. I am absolutely delighted to have this unusual GWR loco added to my fleet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamford Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Looks good Peter Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamford Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 First photos of 9706. I thought this was going to be a fairly quick project by just fixing handrails, bits of piping and a new Smokebox door ! But now 9706 has sprung buffers, lamp brackets, whistle shield, fireiron brackets, bunker window grilles, lifting rings, vacuum pipes, steam lance and that "pipe" in the coal space (what is that for, anyone know ?) Still outstanding are screw couplings, blackhead detail, crew and of course coal. Just a small matter of building the chassis now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter jf Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Hi Michael, Now that looks really good. Love all the extra detail. Where did you source all the bits? Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamford Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Hi Peter. Thanks for your kind comments. Some of the items came from my "spares box" (bits and bobs that you accumulate over the years, alternative and spare parts from the kits that have been built etc). Sprung buffers, vacuum pipes, safety valve bonnet, steam lance, backhead detail ( most of these items are available from Alan Gibson, Mainly Trains, 247 developments among others) But the following came from - Etched window grilles, lamp irons, Smokebox door = Mainly Trains Smokebox door handles, handrail knobs = Alan Gibson Number plates = Modelmaster Whistle shield & Fire iron brackets made from scrap and etched brass (spares box) Handrail/piping wire = alan gibson,mainly trains,Eileen's emporium Hope this is helpful Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L49 Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 You seem to have got the tank exhaust vent pipe wrong - as far as I can see it should come from the tanks and not from the condenser pipes. Steam should go back into the side tanks in order to condense and the tank exhaust/vent should allow heat to escape from the tanks. As you have arranged it the exhaust steam would never reach the tanks. Check for prototype pics and you should be able to see what I mean. I know exactly what you mean, and I questioned it myself when drawing the 97xx up. Effectively any steam being put though the condensing pipes would escape directly to atmosphere making the whole condensing gear useless. However the only looking down view I have managed to source shows the arrangement I have used on the model, unless the combining pipe dog-legs to run under the condensing pipe, but I can't see that there is room for it to do that. If only the chimney weren't in the way, then we could see the arrangement clearly on the driver's side. The published drawings don't help much either, as they fudge round the venting arrangement. It would have been much easier if Collett had simply used a vent pipe on each tank like most engineers did! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 24, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 24, 2015 Interestingly this drawing - linked below - shows the transverse pipe bending under the main condensing pipes from the smokebox (I don't know where the website got it from but it is very much in the style of 'Railway Gazette'/Railway Publishing Co drawings although it doesn't appear in the latter's 'combined volume' of drawings) http://www.champwilde.f9.co.uk/gwdrawings/gwlocoimages/loco-9700.jpg From this source on the 'net http://www.champwilde.f9.co.uk/gwdrawings/locoindex.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L49 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 Thanks Mike, That seems to solve the problem. I will have a look at revising the artwork. From this it also appears that the combining pipe is of a slightly flattened section, presumably to allow it to fit in the very tight space where it bends under the condensing pipe. I'll try to get the amendment done tomorrow in time for anyone ordering at Ally Pally over the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 9710 was in green livery with Shirtbutton until 1961 before she was sent to Caerphilly for a heavy general and emerged in black. Be careful of your lamp brackets I noticed on the previous page they were midland rather than GW style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwinian Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 But now 9706 has sprung buffers, lamp brackets, whistle shield, fireiron brackets, bunker window grilles, lifting rings, vacuum pipes, steam lance and that "pipe" in the coal space (what is that for, anyone know ?) I believe it is the air vent to allow the water tank in the lower part of the bunker to fill through the connecting pipe from the main tanks. All GWR tank locos have one in one form or another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rue_d_etropal Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Just wondering, any chance of resizing this to HO? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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