RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 19, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2019 The turret does look a bit weird with the tiny pivot if you catch that angle. I added some foam tape and now now it looks like this 4 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 19, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2019 The magnets are fairly good but wouldn’t hold it if shaken. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 It wouldn’t be too hard to knock out a suitable substitute for the tank, curtesy of the good men and women of Airfix and Revell, plus there’s a small industry of PE or detail parts on eBay, so lots of customisation options too. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 19, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2019 The tank is pretty good detail wise, just a shame it’s not painted as far as I can see and looks plastic. Easy to fix with a waft of paint and Matt varnish. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 19, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2019 This is on 490mm (19”) radius, they touch but don’t derail. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
County of Yorkshire Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) Given the quality of the tank, I think they are quite expensive for what they are: you'd only get £3.29 change from fifty quid when buying one! I definitely want a few warflats, but I don't want to pay a premium for a tank load that I don't want; I'll either wait until they are reduced, or see if any retailer goes on to 'split' the wagon and tank loads. I think I better dig out those Cromwell tank Airfix kits that I snapped up a few years ago when going cheap at Aldi! In fact, given the extremely long gestation period for these, they look quite disappointing actually. CoY Edited September 19, 2019 by County of Yorkshire 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted September 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2019 And if running with tension locks those lovely screw couplings go straight in the spares box along with the side chains.... Lanarkshire models do some nice white metal coupling hooks without the dangly bits.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted September 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2019 (edited) Ps anyone looked at a source of Army transfers to replace WD and bring the bronze green ones in to the 60s? Edited September 20, 2019 by Phil Bullock Additional info Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Yes, they are a bit of a let down. If the tanks had been painted, they would have been acceptable IMHO. Translucent mudguards are a very poor feature. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 11 hours ago, County of Yorkshire said: Given the quality of the tank, I think they are quite expensive for what they are: you'd only get £3.29 change from fifty quid when buying one! I definitely want a few warflats, but I don't want to pay a premium for a tank load that I don't want; I'll either wait until they are reduced, or see if any retailer goes on to 'split' the wagon and tank loads. I think I better dig out those Cromwell tank Airfix kits that I snapped up a few years ago when going cheap at Aldi! In fact, given the extremely long gestation period for these, they look quite disappointing actually. CoY Aye, given that they seem to be adding £15 to the RRP, you could get far better in kit form. Even the Oxford Sherman seems to be higher quality. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted September 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2019 It’s got to be easier to paint over this than build a kit but yes for the money it’s a bit ‘cheap’ when Dragon, Oxford etc are doing 1/72 tanks fully detailed and painted for the same price. I actually think the moulding is pretty good. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, No Decorum said: Yes, they are a bit of a let down. If the tanks had been painted, they would have been acceptable IMHO. Translucent mudguards are a very poor feature. If anyone wants to buy my tank, make me an offer ! I'll source some late 1950s / early 1960s non-armoured military vehicle(s) for mine. Regards, John Isherwood. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted September 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2019 2 hours ago, cctransuk said: If anyone wants to buy my tank, make me an offer ! I'll source some late 1950s / early 1960s non-armoured military vehicle(s) for mine. Regards, John Isherwood. Where from John? (PS finished 20 bolster Es with your transfers last night!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted September 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2019 2 hours ago, cctransuk said: If anyone wants to buy my tank, make me an offer ! I thought you were going to offer to do the transfers for the renumbering of these. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 25 minutes ago, Phil Bullock said: Where from John? (PS finished 20 bolster Es with your transfers last night!) Well done withy the BBEs - batch lettering can get a bit monotonous though, can't it? I quite fancy https://www.hattons.co.uk/340490/oxford_diecast_76lr2s005_land_rover_series_ii_swb_hard_back_civil_defence/stockdetail.aspx and / or https://www.hattons.co.uk/89789/oxford_diecast_76lan2007_land_rover_series_ii_lwb_station_wagon_44th_home_counties_infantry_div/stockdetail.aspx . The period's right for my 1961 modelling era, and they're something a bit different; a couple should sit nicely on a WARFLAT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 31 minutes ago, gwrrob said: I thought you were going to offer to do the transfers for the renumbering of these. No chance - my knowledge of all things military is zilch! Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 16 hours ago, Phil Bullock said: Ps anyone looked at a source of Army transfers to replace WD and bring the bronze green ones in to the 60s? Modelmaster 4670Y, but they are not on their website so may have been discontinued. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted September 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 21, 2019 Here are mine in a layout setting. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cane Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Enhanced warflat? 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted September 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 21, 2019 55 minutes ago, Tony Cane said: Enhanced warflat? Nice, I'll be starting mine tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
exet1095 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Tony Cane said: Enhanced warflat? Looks good, but the turret needs to be reversed so that the gun is over the back decks. I haven’t seen the model in the flesh, but most tanks of that time had a shackle to put around the barrel to guard against the traverse lock coming off and the turret swinging round, with potentially catastrophic results. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Cane Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 If we are considering such details then the tank as modeled wound not be an in gauge load. The general instruction in regard to the acceptance and conveyance by rail of A.F.V.s states that for Cromwell I. Cavalier I and Centaur I tanks the sand shields must be removed reducing the width from just over 10ft to 9ft 5in. There is no requirement in the instructions to reverse the turret . There is an instruction to reverse the turret on Lee and Grant tanks, but this may be due to the turret shape to improve upper clearances. The often published picture of Cromwell tanks being unloaded at Winchester has tanks without sand shields. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDG Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Aren't Lee and Grant tanks only carried on Warwell wagons due to their height? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tony Cane said: If we are considering such details then the tank as modeled wound not be an in gauge load. The general instruction in regard to the acceptance and conveyance by rail of A.F.V.s states that for Cromwell I. Cavalier I and Centaur I tanks the sand shields must be removed reducing the width from just over 10ft to 9ft 5in. There is no requirement in the instructions to reverse the turret . There is an instruction to reverse the turret on Lee and Grant tanks, but this may be due to the turret shape to improve upper clearances. The often published picture of Cromwell tanks being unloaded at Winchester has tanks without sand shields. Also the barrel of the cannon needs to be hollowed out. The paintwork could do with being made less 'plastic'. And, strictly speaking, IRL tanks were held in place with blocks and shackles, not magnets. Edited September 21, 2019 by truffy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I found this interesting photo: https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&id=DB99658AD4EAD0686416D77DB690CDE2DD739171&thid=OIP.mcNF2TLwAVrXarU8_9ligwHaFD&mediaurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.iwm.org.uk%2Fciim5%2F296%2F462%2Flarge_000000.jpg&exph=546&expw=800&q=war+flat+cromwell+tank&selectedindex=15&ajaxhist=0&vt=0&eim=1,6 It has both the CS and normal 75mm gunned Cromwell. The CS gun facing forwards, the 75mm gun facing rearwards but at an angle (I am not sure from memory, but I'm not aware of a travel lock for the guns on these tanks, at least externally). Sand shields are removed from all (you could cut them off from the Bachmann models, but the rather flat detail means I'd rather use airfix kits instead) and these tanks appear to have some white winter camouflage on them. Note the chains and wooden beams securing the tanks. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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