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I must have missed the reissue of that Slater's MR van, but the louvred sides and general Victorian appearance of it has made me wonder if it could be turned into a narrow gauge bogie van, similar to what you have done with the Cambrian LSWR van over on your narrow gauge thread?

 

You're giving me ideas!

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13 hours ago, AlfaZagato said:

Neat looking van.   Single identity?

Now I'm back home I can show you the other side.

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This may be completely bogus, as being both fitted and passenger rated it would have eventually ended up something like this one, which wasn't built by me.

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My reasoning is that it's an early grouping repaint. If it's completely wrong I can just ignore this side.

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22 minutes ago, Nile said:

It's in Railway Liveries - LMSR by Brian Haresnape , IA 1983.

There is photo of a fish van in passenger livery on P.33 .

 

Fish is (or can be, usually was at least pre-WW2) NPCS.

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The next one off the shelf is another Slater's re-issue.

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This will be built as intended as a D.362 or 363.

After that I fancy a bit of cross kitting. Am I correct in thinking that by swapping the chassis of these two I can create a D.360 & D.364 ?

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30 minutes ago, Nile said:

After that I fancy a bit of cross kitting. Am I correct in thinking that by swapping the chassis of these two I can create a D.360 & D.364 ?

 

Yes:

Somewhat to my shame this pair aren't yet in traffic as I've not finished lettering or sorted out vac pipes and couplings...

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Some progress.

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Weathering still to do, and the roofs, not even started them yet. And I'm having thoughts of doing another one in LSWR/SR livery as an ex-SDJR one.

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6 minutes ago, Nile said:

Some progress.

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Weathering still to do, and the roofs, not even started them yet. And I'm having thoughts of doing another one in LSWR/SR livery as an ex-SDJR one.

 

The S&DJR had no vans of this type with the sliding door. They had Road Vans with cupboard doors, almost identical to some Midland tariff vans - the same design was subsequently adapted for the first Midland banan vans. @Mikkel did a painstaking conversion, descovering the pitfalls along the way...

 

 

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Finished at last.

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Doing the timewarp on the other side.

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Instead of painting the lower parts black I used dark grey, with a gradual variation from the body to the chassis. This to me looks more like period photos.

Individual phots of the three vans:

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With that lot out of the way (and the LSWR brake vans) I've room to do some 009 stuff, I'll be back in a while.

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Dig dig dig, ah there it is. It's been a while but I have at last done something worth posting about here.

Over the xmas break I made a start on this kit designed by @k22009

 

Midland Railway Flatiron 0-6-4T

 

In the beginning there were ....

coupling rods

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and a bogie

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Coming next - the chassis.

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This is one of my favourite classes of loco, there is something majestic about large tank locos and I am surprised there are not more in RTR models. I built a Wills kit but instead of using a Triang Jinty chassis I used a Wills FC100 etched one, Its was a stunning performer, being able to fit a large motor and the shear weight of the body made for a real workhorse

 

I then found out that Southeastern Finecast revised their kit with a bespoke chassis and additional etched and cast details allowing a model to be made in one of three versions/alterations through their lives, still in the to build pile as other things have got in the way. I must admit this etched kit does look the business, nothing replicates sheet metal than sheet metal, and I do like the idea of rocking beam suspension   

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I've got an old Wills model, built by someone else, that I was going to try and back date. I wont bother now, but I'll be reusing the Romford wheels from it.

The good thing with these modern kits produced with CAD is they go together nice and square, once you've worked out which spacer goes where. The coupling rods confirm all is good.F_003.JPG.32f3660b9ae3d892bab51928e978f99c.JPG

 

 

Axle holes were then enlarged for bearing fitting.F_004.JPG.1655437a5e9c879fe5835dd5d25ad2a5.JPG

 

 

With the old wheels fitted to new axles the result was a free running chassis, hurrah.F_005.JPG.7a9cfb2d0f5a9253120420f0c59d4e49.JPG

 

 

Initial indications are it will manage a 2ft radius curve, the limiting factor is bogie movement.

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I can't see the point of having two axles on pivoting side beams without the other axle being on a centre pivot. It doesn't match the three point system compensation capability outlined by Mike Sharman in his Flexichas book. When a wheel on the fixed axle moves up it will move the frame on that side and while one of the beamed wheels will remain on the track, the other will not. If the fixed wheel drops then that will apply to the beamed wheels on the other side. Only when the rails rise or drop in unison will the system keep all the wheels in contact.

 

 

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The etch includes both rigid and jointed rods. If you scroll back a bit you'll see which ones I've used.

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