jonhall Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 I now think there was an Eastleigh to Hove Speedlink that had UKF traffic. Any pictures out there? Thanks. John Dedman's latest book has a snap of UKF palvans leaving Eastleigh in the direction of Chandlers Ford - with IIRC a tanker of some sort in the consist, Jon 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) John Dedman's latest book has a snap of UKF palvans leaving Eastleigh in the direction of Chandlers Ford - with IIRC a tanker of some sort in the consist, Jon Thanks Jon, what's it called? I will have to find myself a copy. Edited February 22, 2017 by ess1uk 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 Just looking through my book Railfreight in Colour by David Cable and there is a picture on page 19 of 81012 on UKF palvans at Winwick Junction in March 1987. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PaulCheffus Posted February 13, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) For completeness, the other COY train departures from Ince are: 6E80 WSO 00:08 Ince UKF Sidings - BartonOH (on Humber?) Hi Yes it is Barton upon Humber. I think this was the Anhydrous Ammonia train that used to run via Woodhead and derailed at Hatfield in April 1981. Cheers Paul Edited February 13, 2017 by PaulCheffus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted February 22, 2017 Author Share Posted February 22, 2017 I now think there was an Eastleigh to Hove Speedlink that had UKF traffic. Any pictures out there? Thanks. I've answered my own question now I've found a picture of 6Y51 from Hove to Eastleigh with only 2 UKF PWAs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippy Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I'm just after a bit of info about the fertiliser traffic to Gillingham (Dorset) and Andover. Was this this same train? Roughly how many PWA vans were on the train? What was it's route from Ince? Time frame mid 1980s Thanks Route from Ince and Elton UKF West Cheshire Junction to Mouldsworth via Single line, then Cheshire Lines to Northwich, turning right before the station to take the Sanbach Line via Middlewich. From Sandbach the slow lines to Crewe, then either via the Independents or into the station. Releif in Basford Hall for the Traincrew or in station sometimes. Via WCML to Bescot. No sure from there, but more than likely via St Andrews Tyseley Leamington Oxford Didcot Reading West Basingstoke Sailsbury. HTH 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippy Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Just found my 1979 Freight Train Loads book. 6O34 17:28 ThO Ince UKF to Andover RA 8 Length Limit 42 Contract Trailing 1050t Class 47 1170t 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SED Freightman Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Only just caught up with this topic so a belated response unfortunately. SR Section WK Freight Working Timetable commencing 13/05/1985 shows the following workings :- 6O36 1726 (ThO) Ince UKF Sdgs to Andover UKF Sdg - Company Service Westbury Down Yd dep.0115 (FO) Warminster 0130 - 0136 detach assisting loco (banker) Salisbury Stn 0211 - 0212 crew stop Salisbury East Yd 0214 - 0250 detach Gillingham portion Andover UKF Sdg arr.0327 6L59 0433 (FO) Salisbury East Yd to Gillingham UKF Sdg - Company Service Gillingham Stn 0504 - 0511 run round Gillingham UKF Sdg arr.0513 6L83 1614 (FO) Gillingham UKF Sdg to Andover UKF Sdg - Company Service Salisbury Stn 1642 - 1649 crew stop Andover UKF Sdg arr.1726 6M22 1803 (FO) Andover UKF Sdg to Ince UKF Sdgs - Company Service Salisbury Stn 1837 - 1838 crew stop Westbury Stn 1914 - ? crew stop Any additional wagonload traffic for Andover would presumably have been conveyed on the Salisbury - Ludgershall trip. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted January 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2019 Sorry did you say ‘banker’ wow! Every day is a learning day...... pity it ran in darkness would love to have seen a photo of that. Griff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Sorry did you say ‘banker’ wow! Every day is a learning day...... pity it ran in darkness would love to have seen a photo of that. Griff Some stone trains from Westbury towards Salisbury were also banked as far as Warminster; I don't know when the practice ceased, if it has. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted January 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2019 Some stone trains from Westbury towards Salisbury were also banked as far as Warminster; I don't know when the practice ceased, if it has. When I worked at Westbury, the situation with a banker was if required and more importantly, if they had a loco available. They were more common when 47’s, 56 and 58’s were about but with the advent of Class 59’s and 66’s anti wheel slip control, the practice has effectively disappeared. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SED Freightman Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 A further dig through old WTT's has revealed that the Andover / Gillingham service continued to pass via Westbury until autumn 1987 with the trains operating much the same as shewn in my earlier post. SR Section WK Freight Working Timetable commencing 05/10/87 shows trains diverted to run via Southcote Jn and Basingstoke, also the use of Salisbury East Yd was discontinued, revised service as below :- 6O36 1726 (ThO) Ince UKF Sdgs to Gillingham UKF Sdg - Company Service Southcote Jn 03/40 (Fri) Basingstoke 0400 - 0402 Crew stop Andover UKF Sdg 0445 - 0545 Detach portion Gillingham Station 0651 - 0701 Run round Gillingham UKF Sdg arr.0703 6M22 1614 (FO) Gillingham UKF Sdg to Ince UKF Sdgs - Company train Salisbury 1642 - 1647 Crew and pathing stop Andover UKF Sdg 1724 - 1800 Attach portion Basingstoke 1836 - 1837 Crew stop Southcote Jn 18/59 With regard to the banking of services from Westbury, as mentioned by 'Jools1959', the need gradually reduced with the introduction of more powerful locos, and finally dissapeared from the timetable commencing in September 1992. 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 Thanks for all the replies 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shed Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Any more pictures please? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 (edited) Not on the Southern. but there use to be a UKF train out of Scotland, 40155 seen here passing through Carlisle early 80's Edited July 3, 2019 by long island jack 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Banger Blue Posted July 3, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 3, 2019 54 minutes ago, long island jack said: Not on the Southern. but there use to be a UKF train out of Scotland, 40155 seen here passing through Carlisle early 80's In my post on page 1, I mentioned the UKF service to Keith: 6S89 WO 12:26 Ince UKF Sidings - Keith. Looking through the WTT (83 thru to 87) the only working I can see to UKF from Scotland is: 6M60 THO 22.12 Craiginches Yard - Ince UKF Sidings. So presumably that’s 6M60 in the photo 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted July 4, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 4, 2019 That’s a nice tarted-up whistler there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoppit Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I used to shunt this train at Andover, it would often arrive earlier than booked and wake me up! became a nightmare when it switched from ukf/kemira palvans to cargowaggons due to the curvature of the siding used at that time, there were a few bangs into the stop blocks in the early hours! There was a shunter there god rest his soul that would often say the groundframe detection had gone and send the lot through to gillingham, I would then have to shunt the ludgershall MOD train into the yard quickly when they sent the Andover portion back up to Andover about 08.30! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoppit Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just had a sort thru, this was the last train I shunted in the siding at Andover in 1991 before the track was took out for platform extensions for class 159s 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shed Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 any more pics? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stuart A Posted March 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 18, 2020 These are not much help probably, unsure of date, but couple of my shots at Helsby of UKF workings to/from the plant. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 On 07/11/2019 at 18:37, whoppit said: Just had a sort thru, this was the last train I shunted in the siding at Andover in 1991 before the track was took out for platform extensions for class 159s What kind of wagon are they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpendle Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Look like Touax Hold-alls. Revolution trains are making them in OO and N. Regards, John P 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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